Re: Poor performance on a 7900GS + Pentium D

Posted on 2020-07-06, 21:42

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by ENunn

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I got my CPU in today, it's better for sure but it's still not perfect, at least I don't think. If it's the motherboard causing this I don't see what could be the cause, there's no bent pins in the CPU socket and no bad caps or traces. Getting around 50-60 on the opening train scene in HL2, I'm …

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Re: Poor performance on a 7900GS + Pentium D

Posted on 2020-07-02, 18:54

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candle_86 wrote on 2020-07-02, 12:43: Grab snappy driver installer and run it from usb Yeah, didn't really fix stuttering. Oh well, I'll just buy a good card. I'll get back to y'all once the CPU comes.

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Re: Poor performance on a 7900GS + Pentium D

Posted on 2020-07-02, 05:09

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by ENunn

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Yeah I wouldn't be surprised if the CPU was bad. I got this PC almost 4 years ago from someone who worked at my high school's tech school. It was full of garbage and ransomware and all that jazz. Hopefully I'll get this up and running soon. For now I'll see if I can get audio working without …

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Re: Poor performance on a 7900GS + Pentium D

Posted on 2020-07-02, 04:40

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by ENunn

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Ok what I'm starting to think is your cpu temp sensor is broken, can you swap in another cpu. Not at the moment, no. Ok, so me thinks that the CPU is the problem and it is running way throttled.... or the cache on the CPU is not working or something. Looking at the CPU-Z bench listings, a Pentium D …

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Re: Poor performance on a 7900GS + Pentium D

Posted on 2020-07-02, 04:03

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darry wrote on 2020-07-02, 04:00: Hard to say from the photo, but to me the plastic looks warped . I don't feel any warping, and if there is I'm not 100% worried about it, I'm more worried about the copper heat pipes. Some of them look like they've broke off on the top. edit: nevermind, seems to be …

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Re: Poor performance on a 7900GS + Pentium D

Posted on 2020-07-02, 03:45

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by ENunn

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Ok, check the memory tabs, and also run the bench test on the bench tab. 2020070122422286.png 2020070122430881.png 2020070123064342.png Looks like HWMonitor is supposed to support temp monitoring on Pentium D... or at least that is what somebody said when another person asked about temp monitoring …

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Re: Poor performance on a 7900GS + Pentium D

Posted on 2020-07-02, 02:51

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by ENunn

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Oh... is the CPU fan going max speed? In that system it would be really, really loud. This could happen if the heatpipes in the cooler died. Is the base of the cooler really hot and the rest cool? Nah, it's pretty quiet. The only thing that's louder is the GPU fan. The CPU fan isn't dead, it's …

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Re: Poor performance on a 7900GS + Pentium D

Posted on 2020-07-02, 02:04

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by ENunn

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Wait grab gpuz, Everest home is to old to read your hardware, the latest home release is 2004, your hardware is newer, all of of it is. Check in gpuz. I dunno why I didn't think of that, I use aidia64 for XP and up because I have a license for it. Ah, here you go. 2020070121031715.png Woah 100c on …

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Re: Poor performance on a 7900GS + Pentium D

Posted on 2020-07-01, 21:52

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by ENunn

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Just tick the "Custom Clock Frequencies" and then the Test Button. I am pretty sure that by checking the Custom Clock Settings, it should lock it at that speed but it has been a really long time since I overclocked one of those cards. Seeing those pics, it makes me wonder if the 7900GS even has a …

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Re: Poor performance on a 7900GS + Pentium D

Posted on 2020-07-01, 21:23

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by ENunn

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Here's maybe a dumb question... did you install the chipset drivers for the motherboard? Yep. Download ntune and use it to check temps and clocks. Maybe it is sticking in 2D clock speed which would explain it. Maybe force it to 3d clocks and see if that helps.... unless it is overheating and then …

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Re: Poor performance on a 7900GS + Pentium D

Posted on 2020-07-01, 20:35

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by ENunn

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Check your gpu speeds with Everest and check fan speeds, if the 7900gs has a fan failure or can't ramp up it defaults to 2d clocks, also change the 14 year old tim. Those cards will stick to 2d clock if they overheat, don't get enough power, fan doesn't spin right. Nothing is showing up in Everest, …

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Re: Poor performance on a 7900GS + Pentium D

Posted on 2020-07-01, 06:13

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What version of HL2 are you running? Is there a Multicore setting in Video -> Advanced. If so, try disabling it. Original 2004 version, 2187. ̶I̶'̶m̶ ̶t̶r̶y̶i̶n̶g̶ ̶t̶o̶ ̶g̶e̶t̶ ̶t̶h̶e̶ ̶c̶u̶r̶r̶e̶n̶t̶ ̶S̶t̶e̶a̶m̶ ̶v̶e̶r̶s̶i̶o̶n̶ ̶i̶n̶s̶t̶a̶l̶l̶e̶d̶ ̶b̶u̶t̶ ̶S̶t̶e̶a̶m̶ ̶d̶o̶e̶s̶n̶'̶t̶ ̶w̶a̶n̶t̶ …

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Re: Poor performance on a 7900GS + Pentium D

Posted on 2020-07-01, 05:25

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by ENunn

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Ok... Is there a PCI latency setting in the BIOS? Nope. What IRQ is the sound card using? Is it sharing it with anything else? Don't know where that is, it's just the built in sound card on the motherboard. What happens if you disable the sound in the games you are having trouble with? What about …

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Re: Poor performance on a 7900GS + Pentium D

Posted on 2020-07-01, 03:46

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by ENunn

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Ok, how is the RAM installed in the system? Are you sure you aren't running in single channel instead of dual channel? Dual channel, 2GB. Have you replaced the thermal paste for the CPU cooler? Those Dell computers tend to have the paste break down and separate, causing hot spots on the CPU so even …

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Re: Poor performance on a 7900GS + Pentium D

Posted on 2020-07-01, 02:32

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by ENunn

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darry wrote on 2020-07-01, 02:28: Extreme long shot : Does your BIOS allow disabling one of the CPU cores ? Yep, it does. Just disabled dual core, no difference.

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Re: Poor performance on a 7900GS + Pentium D

Posted on 2020-07-01, 02:18

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by ENunn

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i've had zero luck with real time temperature monitoring on my dell machine with a socket 775, dell intel 925x motherboard and a pentium 4. i doubt your dell intel 945p chipset board is any different in this respect. Wouldn't be surprised if that was the case. Well, if it is somehow throttling, it …

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Re: Poor performance on a 7900GS + Pentium D

Posted on 2020-07-01, 02:13

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by ENunn

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Doesn't seem like it, no. Filename 2020063021123224.png File size 338.95 KiB Views 1054 views

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Re: Poor performance on a 7900GS + Pentium D

Posted on 2020-07-01, 02:03

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by ENunn

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Ambient temp is fine at 70F . Prime95 is a good choice for loading . If the temp indicated does not move at all during gaming, it puts into doubt that temperature reading's validity (unless the CPU fan just happens to accelerate enough to compensate, which is doubtful, IMHO). Maybe that sensor is …

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Re: Poor performance on a 7900GS + Pentium D

Posted on 2020-07-01, 01:59

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by ENunn

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The Serpent Rider wrote on 2020-07-01, 01:56: Download Everest Free Edition, you'll most likely see correct measurements from CPU cores. nothing Filename 2020063020584976.png File size 50.08 KiB Views 1064 views

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Re: Poor performance on a 7900GS + Pentium D

Posted on 2020-07-01, 01:48

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by ENunn

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Neither software shows CPU Temps. Everest/AIDA can show CPU thermals. But looks like Speedfan is showing 51C for CPU at idle (core). Interesting. While running a game the core temp doesn't change at all. I'm not sure I understand what you mean. Drivers from the FX series heyday definitely won't …

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