Also,forgot to mention,the system doesn't have a case.
I chose it to be this way because it cools the system a bit more.

PcBytes wrote:

Also,forgot to mention,the system doesn't have a case.
I chose it to be this way because it cools the system a bit more.

Wouldn't a case with a single exhaust fan be adequate anyway?

Tetrium wrote:

PcBytes wrote:

Also,forgot to mention,the system doesn't have a case.
I chose it to be this way because it cools the system a bit more.

Wouldn't a case with a single exhaust fan be adequate anyway?

My old case was so worn I couldn't use it anymore,so I left the system without a case.
When I can,I'll buy another DeluX case so I can install the system in.
Until then,I'll use the system like that.
One thing I can't rely on is the temperature monitor for the CPU on the Supermicro BIOS (I use a Supermicro BIOS on this ASUS board,no joke or anything like that)as it reports that the CPU temps are around 39-43*C when actually the real temps are 90-100*C.

90-100c sounds incredibly hot. I'd say that the reported 39-43c is likely correct, prescotts can be hot, but not that hot!

BSA Starfire wrote:

90-100c sounds incredibly hot. I'd say that the reported 39-43c is likely correct, prescotts can be hot, but not that hot!

Actually it REALLY was that hot.
I tried an Albatron BIOS just for that,and it showed that the CPU temperature was 90-93*C.
Maybe it's the toothpaste that got crusty? (I use toothpaste as CPU paste until I can afford myself a normal CPU paste)

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BSA Starfire wrote:

90-100c sounds incredibly hot. I'd say that the reported 39-43c is likely correct, prescotts can be hot, but not that hot!

Actually it REALLY was that hot.
I tried an Albatron BIOS just for that,and it showed that the CPU temperature was 90-93*C.
Maybe it's the toothpaste that got crusty? (I use toothpaste as CPU paste until I can afford myself a normal CPU paste)

Are you crazy?

The most approved thermal paste in Russia is КПТ-8. $1-2 for a 20g tube in any radio store. One must be living on the street to not be able to afford such a simple thing.

RacoonRider wrote:

PcBytes wrote:

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BSA Starfire wrote:

90-100c sounds incredibly hot. I'd say that the reported 39-43c is likely correct, prescotts can be hot, but not that hot!

Actually it REALLY was that hot.
I tried an Albatron BIOS just for that,and it showed that the CPU temperature was 90-93*C.
Maybe it's the toothpaste that got crusty? (I use toothpaste as CPU paste until I can afford myself a normal CPU paste)

Are you crazy?

The most approved thermal paste in Russia is КПТ-8. $1-2 for a 20g tube in any radio store. One must be living on the street to not be able to afford such a simple thing.

Even crazier is that with toothpaste,using a EPoX EP-4PLA3I,I had 29-33*C on the CPU!(I still have a video of that)

Back with 2 more BIOSes to work,and the latter is the one I think I'll leave as default,as I like it.

1.DFI Lanparty PRO875 - SST 49LF004A - POSTS but hangs with incorrect RAM test (only 1024K OK from 1GB)
2.Iwill P4SE Gold - PMC 49FL002T - POSTs fine,has the Y2K Iwill logo (anybody with a Iwill motherboard knows about it)and it even detects the onboard Intel LAN.

Right now,I'm unsure if I should upgrade to a Radeon 9600 or keep the 7000 in there and use the Basic theme.(I'm running a lite version of Windows 7,but it has the Aero theme included)
What do you think?

You should definitely upgrade to the 9600
-It's many times faster than the dog slow 7000.
-It's actually supported by Win7. Radeon 7000 has to use X DDM drivers ripped from Vista in order to give you basic functionality under Win7, which is far from ideal.
-It would help that PC live up to its "Universal Spacerocket" status a little better. 😀

But even with the 9600 I'd keep Aero disabled. Aero is best left to WDDM 1.1 capable cards; on those it looks pretty without detracting from performance.

Standard Def Steve wrote:

You should definitely upgrade to the 9600 -It's many times faster than the dog slow 7000. -It's actually supported by Win7. Rade […]
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You should definitely upgrade to the 9600
-It's many times faster than the dog slow 7000.
-It's actually supported by Win7. Radeon 7000 has to use X DDM drivers ripped from Vista in order to give you basic functionality under Win7, which is far from ideal.
-It would help that PC live up to its "Universal Spacerocket" status a little better. 😀

But even with the 9600 I'd keep Aero disabled. Aero is best left to WDDM 1.1 capable cards; on those it looks pretty without detracting from performance.

So,I'll go and scan my city for a 9600.
You're pretty much right,as my 7000 BSODs at shutdown saying TERMINAL_SERVER_DRIVER_MADE_INCORRECT_MEMORY_REFFERENCE.
Also,I'd say that this PC,other than the video card being old (it's all I have handy right now)it pretty much lives up to the name.I chose that name though mainly because of the motherboard's ability to use other boards' BIOSes(from Albatron,Supermicro,DFI,Iwill,ECS,AOpen etc.).I'm trying to make a big list of BIOSes that work (and tested by me)on the P4P800-VM.

On the other side,I replaced the small HSF it had (knowing Celeron D CPUs are Prescotts,I wonder how the Celeron D 2.66GHz installed survived with that small HSF)with a "homemade"one,made from:
-an old stock Pentium 4 Intel heatsink (minus the stock fan it had,basically just the metal brick)
-an S462 stock fan (with one broken blade)
-mounting brackets from an Socket 478 ASUS HSF
The result:a good heatsink that keeps temps into a normal range -75-80*C. (normal for a Prescott CPU)

PcBytes wrote:

So,I'll go and scan my city for a 9600. You're pretty much right,as my 7000 BSODs at shutdown saying TERMINAL_SERVER_DRIVER_MADE […]
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Standard Def Steve wrote:

You should definitely upgrade to the 9600 -It's many times faster than the dog slow 7000. -It's actually supported by Win7. Rade […]
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You should definitely upgrade to the 9600
-It's many times faster than the dog slow 7000.
-It's actually supported by Win7. Radeon 7000 has to use X DDM drivers ripped from Vista in order to give you basic functionality under Win7, which is far from ideal.
-It would help that PC live up to its "Universal Spacerocket" status a little better. 😀

But even with the 9600 I'd keep Aero disabled. Aero is best left to WDDM 1.1 capable cards; on those it looks pretty without detracting from performance.

So,I'll go and scan my city for a 9600.
You're pretty much right,as my 7000 BSODs at shutdown saying TERMINAL_SERVER_DRIVER_MADE_INCORRECT_MEMORY_REFFERENCE.
Also,I'd say that this PC,other than the video card being old (it's all I have handy right now)it pretty much lives up to the name.I chose that name though mainly because of the motherboard's ability to use other boards' BIOSes(from Albatron,Supermicro,DFI,Iwill,ECS,AOpen etc.).I'm trying to make a big list of BIOSes that work (and tested by me)on the P4P800-VM.

On the other side,I replaced the small HSF it had (knowing Celeron D CPUs are Prescotts,I wonder how the Celeron D 2.66GHz installed survived with that small HSF)with a "homemade"one,made from:
-an old stock Pentium 4 Intel heatsink (minus the stock fan it had,basically just the metal brick)
-an S462 stock fan (with one broken blade)
-mounting brackets from an Socket 478 ASUS HSF
The result:a good heatsink that keeps temps into a normal range -75-80*C. (normal for a Prescott CPU)

75-80c is NOT normal for a Prescott, especially not an 2.66 Celeron, I run a skt 478 Prescott P4 540(3.0ghz, 1 mb cache, 800fsb), it never breaks 60c with a decent cooler. Yours must be thermal throttling or the temp readings are wildly off.

What exactly is the purpose of testing that board with other BIOSes?

BSA Starfire wrote:

PcBytes wrote:

So,I'll go and scan my city for a 9600. You're pretty much right,as my 7000 BSODs at shutdown saying TERMINAL_SERVER_DRIVER_MADE […]
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Standard Def Steve wrote:

You should definitely upgrade to the 9600 -It's many times faster than the dog slow 7000. -It's actually supported by Win7. Rade […]
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You should definitely upgrade to the 9600
-It's many times faster than the dog slow 7000.
-It's actually supported by Win7. Radeon 7000 has to use X DDM drivers ripped from Vista in order to give you basic functionality under Win7, which is far from ideal.
-It would help that PC live up to its "Universal Spacerocket" status a little better. 😀

But even with the 9600 I'd keep Aero disabled. Aero is best left to WDDM 1.1 capable cards; on those it looks pretty without detracting from performance.

So,I'll go and scan my city for a 9600.
You're pretty much right,as my 7000 BSODs at shutdown saying TERMINAL_SERVER_DRIVER_MADE_INCORRECT_MEMORY_REFFERENCE.
Also,I'd say that this PC,other than the video card being old (it's all I have handy right now)it pretty much lives up to the name.I chose that name though mainly because of the motherboard's ability to use other boards' BIOSes(from Albatron,Supermicro,DFI,Iwill,ECS,AOpen etc.).I'm trying to make a big list of BIOSes that work (and tested by me)on the P4P800-VM.

On the other side,I replaced the small HSF it had (knowing Celeron D CPUs are Prescotts,I wonder how the Celeron D 2.66GHz installed survived with that small HSF)with a "homemade"one,made from:
-an old stock Pentium 4 Intel heatsink (minus the stock fan it had,basically just the metal brick)
-an S462 stock fan (with one broken blade)
-mounting brackets from an Socket 478 ASUS HSF
The result:a good heatsink that keeps temps into a normal range -75-80*C. (normal for a Prescott CPU)

75-80c is NOT normal for a Prescott, especially not an 2.66 Celeron, I run a skt 478 Prescott P4 540(3.0ghz, 1 mb cache, 800fsb), it never breaks 60c with a decent cooler. Yours must be thermal throttling or the temp readings are wildly off.

Considering I use a homemade HSF,and I use toothpaste atm (I'm going to get some real paste today though)I find those temps normal.Anyways,it rarely goes over 74-75 though,and if it ever goes over 74-75 it stops at 80.

Half-Saint wrote:

What exactly is the purpose of testing that board with other BIOSes?

Well the purpose was to find an BIOS which works best while making a list with each BIOSes that work on this board.

Well,I'm back,and I applied thermal paste.
Now,with the homemade HSF I get about 64*C.
I also applied thermal paste to the NB,because it was getting real hot.

Finally,I got around recording one boot-up of the system.I also added 3 pictures of the motherboard,PSU and HDD.
Attached down is the video,packed in a .rar file.I've went through a lot of pain just to get it down to the forum's filesize limit.(limit is 5mb,file is 2.25mb)

you know there's something called youtube?

Living wrote:

you know there's something called youtube?

Yes,I do know that there is Youtube,but I wanted to upload it here so I packed it in a rar file.

2 quick,small updates:

1.I've bought a case for the system (case is named "Human")and installed everything in the case.Also added a LG DVD drive instead of the Xbox drive.

2.Fixed the BSOD on shutdown problem I had with the Radeon 7000,so now I can shutdown completely.

Pics of the rig tomorrow,but in the meanwhile,here's my desktop on this rig:

Okay,here are 2 pics of the rig.The system doesn't have one panel because I bought the case that way.
Here they are: