I don't see the first 3 pics though 🙁
Edit:Nvm, they work now after a refresh

Edit2:To try and answer your questions partially, this rig kinda screams for XP along with a couple upgrades 😁

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thing is Tetrium that I don't want an XP machine, just something with more juice to run older 9x games that due to programming (I guess) don't really behave nice and can benefit from a fast system.... (or it could even be that I am waisting my time on this logic 🤣 but still I wanna use it for win9x 😜 )

TombRaiders, Unreal engine stuff, the Quake2/3 engine stuff and the odd title should really fly on this machine even on higher resolutions...

Throw a Radeon 9500 in there, it'll fit the cpu fine (expect around 13000 marks in 3dm01), and not suck at shader model 2 and the odd directdraw / paletted game here and there. (Geforces are notorious for palette slowdown)

Disabling Hyperthreading's a good idea, keyword in that term is hype, it's been nothing but that to me, even on today's intel cpus which seems to cause more problems than its worth

GeForce 7 doesn't have 9x drivers so if you want to upgrade, a GF 6800 Ultra is as far as you can go with it.

ATi doesn't have drivers for 9x after the 9800XT so you're better off going with green if you will be using 9x.

A radeon9500 you say eh? I'll look at that 😀

http://www.ebay.com/itm/EVGA-Corporation-NVID … 3434606wt_41598

Here's a 6800 Ultra for $40. You'd have to ask about shipping to your country, though.

Dude, you have to be kidding me. I built the exact same system (ok not the exact SAME motherboard!) after that Athlon XP holocaust. I'm now dual booting happily between ME and XP, but Ti4200 was a bit limiting for my needs, so I plugged in a 6600GT.
One bad motha...
Runs EVERYTHING I've thrown at it, extremely well. Old games look just fine too, just like they would on a Voodoo 3 (which I also have in there for those pesky Glide exclusives and generally games that won't work well on newer cards).
Heck, even DOS VESA games work like charm. I could never get Mechwarrior 2 to run at SVGA on my Voodoo 3 and 5, but with the 6600gt (and the Ti4200 I should note), it works 1024x768 flawlessly.
I'd definetely install the 6600GT in your PC as well, you'll be able to run everything, quite a tad faster than a Ti 4200 too. The only game I've encountered that HT broke, was an old Adventure called, Post Mortem, but there was a patch for that.
Leilei, are you sure that 9xxx ATI cards don't break DX 7 and 8 games? I remember swayee saying that these cards generally cause problems with such games.

F2bnp wrote:

Leilei, are you sure that 9xxx ATI cards don't break DX 7 and 8 games? I remember swayee saying that these cards generally cause problems with such games.

I know they'll break older table fog games, only ones off the top of my head that are, are 1997-99 Lucasarts titles

not to mention the lack of paletted texturing (No Radeon has it), but paletted textures are more of a 3dfx exclusive feature that has minor support in the GeforceFX.

I've suggested R300 because it's what i've used in a similar system and i've had better driver luck with that in 9X than a Geforce5-6. post-2004 9x Geforce drivers regress a lot of games, even the DirectX 8.1 ones like UT2004 will get their polys stretching all over the place and textures mismatched. This is specifically in Win9x though, in XP/2K it's fine

Thanks for all the brainstorming, I will consider my options and test stuff 😀
For now since I do have the 4200ti installed, is there a forceware version that is recommended?

45.23 is probably the best to use for 4200Ti.

really? that old? I just grabbed 81.98 fron nv....

edit: I did some reading on HT ... it is best to be disabled in anything lower than XP (even win2000) since XP is the first MS OS that actually uses it correctly...

If you're going to use Win Me, and mainly just play games released up till about 2003 or so, then 45.23 is one of the better drivers from back then for Geforce 4 and prior. A latter released driver from near the end of ME support is not going to be as spot on performance wise, as they were more concerned about fixing bugs and performance for current selling games and cards, not ones from 2003 and prior. Honestly for Windows me, I'd not even considering going past a Radeon 9700 type card either. A GF 4 would be fine too over all. Past that and you might as well be running later generation titles and XP, otherwise its a waste in GPU power.

That could be turned into a godly P4 Win XP rig. And as I have a penchant for big, ol' heavy tower cases, I'd keep the case too. But I digress.

Win ME and ol' games, I'd just keep the 4200Ti. I run my GF3 Ti 200 with Win98SE using 27.xx drivers. On my Win XP P4, I use 57.xx drivers with a 4600Ti. Nothing newer- it affects performance and compatibility.

thanks for the extra clarifications , will search for 45.23 😀

awesome update:
installed 45.23 as recommended, disabled HT in BIOS and now I get this score:

not bad... 😁 , thanks for the tip 😊