Masterful.

Just amazing.

As for the speed settings, a different mobo should be able to do 2x 66mhz ?
(at least Abit BH6 makes that work, ending up as 133mhz)

This board supports FSB tweaking from 66MHz - 133MHz. Just that I coudn't access the 66MHz MHz with this CPU. I need to somehow "unlock" the 66MHz on this, or use a 66MHz FSB CPU to access the 1.5 & 2 x 66MHz. If I can use an unlocked 66MHz FSB CPU, I can bring it down to 100MHz. (66 x 1.5).

nice one! too much Creative stuff inside 🤣

keropi wrote:

too much Creative stuff inside 🤣

Well, I thought at least this time, they'll be at harmony with each other. 🤣

Very, very nice! A couple of things:

1) I think that CPU is not truly unlocked, as in it has a high cutoff for the multi, like the newer core 2 series does. I could be wrong here, my memory is getting worse and worse lately, but from memory those cpus were locked in that way, and if so that means they are not considered unlocked by the industry.
2) Those CPUs cpu-world link are 24.3W TDP and 32.73W max, be careful about it overheating, that heatsink is huge and wide-finned but it is not oriented properly for chimney-style passive cooling. If you value the long term reliability of that cpu you may want to add a fan to that heatsink or replace it with an actively cooled one.

3) I'm wondering why you chose such a modern looking case? It's simply confusing me that you went to all the trouble to make it era-colored, but then went with a modern case, though I totally understand the window. The sleeved PSU wires are also confusing me. Did you just want the era color but modern looks otherwise? It does look incredible like that, don't get me wrong, but I'm confused as to your aims with it, that's all.

4) Absolutely wonderful amazing build! I am getting parts right now for my own late p2 build.

^ regarding #3 , I assume Malik had a hard time finding a good older case. I cannot find good ones here (those I find are often scratched to death or have some parts missing or are just horrible) ... I usually end up using some plain looking black midi tower for my atx-compatible projects and just use the machine... you can't have all anymore 🙁

I dont like the paint job.. I can see the black trough it..

But system is nice..

keropi wrote:

^ regarding #3 , I assume Malik had a hard time finding a good older case . . . . I usually end up using some plain looking black midi tower for my atx-compatible projects and just use the machine... you can't have all anymore 🙁

That's kinda my point, instead of a plain era looking black case, he chose a modern looking one, and that's got me confused.

Also, I think it's called mid tower, not midi tower. 😀

jaqie wrote:

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Also, I think it's called mid tower, not midi tower. 😀

nope... "mid" is new-age stuff (how do you call a mini one? min tower? 🤣), midi is the proper term.
At least here every store that respects itself and was not founded 1 year ago has the proper term:

http://www.plaisio.gr/Computers/Hardware/PC-Cases.htm
http://www.e-shop.gr/PER_cases.phtml
http://www.you.gr/b2c_iqshop/catalog/categori … =&ZCASES_COLOR=
etc etc etc...

Yes, you guys are right. It's difficult to get a "nice" period-related case nowadays - (everyone is going googoo-gaga over new casings) and secondly, it's very easy to get these new-type cases.

One of the main reasons I wanted to get a modern casing - is the cooling factor. This baby has openings at all the sides - top, bottom, back, front and right (only the left - the motherboard base side) is devoid of the airway pores.

Behind the front green air-pore-plate-thingy is a 140mm fan.

There's a 120mm fan blowing into the system from the plastic window. Another fan is blowing from the top, into the system (can see the green light from the pores on top, at the second picture).

I bought these fans. And added the resistors to ALL fan connectors - for extreme quietness.

The only fan that came with this casing is the hind casing 120mm fan - which defaults at blowing the air OUT. Added a resistor to this too.

I wanted to fix another 120mm fan on the top part, behind the first opening - just above the CPU, but this CPU-heatsink is HUGE!! It's almost touching the "ceiling".

The PSU was an "extra" and unused - chose it because it has the -5v rail, even though it's a modern 500W PSU.

Yes, Robin4, I'm not good at painting. Just an amateur work. Actually the front panel borders - I sprayed them with green too - vbut didn't like it. I resprayed the royal ivory and was too lazy to coat the 3rd time.

Besides, it's only the flash of the camera which brought out the contrast. Otherwise, it's not noticable. Maybe if I have more time, I'll re-coat it.

And yes, I'm not being period-specific. All I wanted was a beige case. I really miss the colour - so, "resurrected" it. Heheh..

And having the transparent side panel allows me to look at the Voodoo2 SLI and AWE64 Gold in action, while, say, when a game is loading a level, etc. 😁

I don't mind going for a modern case - the number one reason being better ventilation.

(I need to mod my AT casing to provide airflow from it's side - it's getting hot, especially when I'm using the AMD K6-II 550.)

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jaqie wrote:

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Also, I think it's called mid tower, not midi tower. :)

nope... "mid" is new-age stuff (how do you call a mini one? min tower? LOL), midi is the proper term.
At least here every store that respects itself and was not founded 1 year ago has the proper term:

http://www.plaisio.gr/Computers/Hardware/PC-Cases.htm
http://www.e-shop.gr/PER_cases.phtml
http://www.you.gr/b2c_iqshop/catalog/categori … =&ZCASES_COLOR=
etc etc etc...

This is a quote from another thread which may explain the disagreement about the term "midi" being used to describe your case.

MIDI defines an electrical interface (e.g. opto-isolated inputs), an encoding scheme (e.g. baud rate, start/stop bits), and a data protocol (e.g. 90 3C 40 = Note C on) for transferring musical notes between instruments and other devices.

history of MIDI in earlier games?

I am not trying to start an argument, just pointing this out.

I bet it's a regional thing. Keropi's located in Greece, as are the sites he linked to, so I'd assume that's the term for them over there, whereas in the US it's mid-tower.

Anyways that's a really nice build mate. Can't blame you for going with a new case; cooling really is so much better with them, and if you don't have connections or work at a recycling place it can be pretty hard to find decent old-style cases.

I like the case myself, and it's a great build overall. You could get the case stripped and powder coated the color you want and it would look way better, but that's kind of expensive to do. Personally I like newer cases, they have more space in them, better aesthetics and better air flow. I'm rather tired of the classic Antec/Chieftech look myself, I always thought those cases were ugly as sin 😁

You might try an ASUS P3B-F motherboard (if you can find one), you can force the bus to 66 mhz on those with just dip switch settings. I don't think you can adjust it via BIOS however... but I might be wrong as it's been a long time since I had a system built on that board, but I do remember it being a great board for tweaking.

I'm jealous of your voodoo's! 😁

thanks tannerstevo, I believe everyone here knows what midi means in music stuff...

continuing the OT "midi tower" discussions, do a google search for "midi tower atw" and you will see :d
it's also an Australian thing: http://www.auspcmarket.com.au/info/PC-60FNB/1242/
enermax in UK thinks the same: http://www.enermax.co.uk/products/cases.html? … 0d2fbaa1077d0d2
the Germans seem to agree as well: http://www.ciao.de/sr/q-atx+midi+tower+black
the Russians enjoy the extra "i" too: http://trinity-design.com/ru/price_new_comp.html
... and check out the drop-down menu of my favorite case maker: http://www.chieftec.eu/en/component/content/

maybe "mid" is regional 😁 😁 😵 😵 😁 😁

"midi tower atw"

Guessing you meant "ATX" and just made a typo. 🤣

Always good too see a Downclocked P-II 😀. I also bought a Aopen mainboard for that purpose 3 years ago. It was the AX6BC with two instead of 3 ISA slots. I chose it for the 1.5x multiplier, but that multiplier is more like an Aopen joke because it is not documented and used by Intel. Nice boards otherwise, especially the one you have there.
I also encountered the drawback were you cannot downclock the FSB from the processor default on an AOpen mainboard, and remember soldering something from or to the slot 1 CPU, to make 66 MHz the default.
Worth noting is the non-functioning L2 cache at multiplier 2x and 2.5x on the Pentium-II, but for retro gaming that will not matter that much, a speed penalty of about 1/4th.

Wow 😲

And that gold heatsink is just makes it look more so.

Why not get a fan for it (the CPU) as well?