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First post, by vetz

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I've had some parts laying around and my brother finally upgraded his old 2003 Chieftec case to a new modern one. Putting these parts into it makes it perfect for creating a 2003-2004 style Windows XP computer.

The case (will need some cleaning and cable management). Notice that it has FAN controls and temperature monitor built-in. The Pentium 4 sticker also probably needs to be replaced:

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Motherboard Asus A7N8X-E (supports 400mhz FSB Bartons)

Here is what I have to choose from of Socket A CPUs:

- Duron 600 (Spitfire)
- Duron 700 (Spitfire)
- Athlon XP-M 2200+ (Thoroughbred)
- Athlon XP 2800+ (Barton)

Memory chips:

- 2x 512MB PC3200 CL2.5 Twinmos
- 1024MB PC3200 CL3 Twinmos
- 512MB PC3200 CL3 Crucial

Video cards:

- Voodoo 5 5500 64MB PCI
- Geforce 5950 Ultra
- Geforce 6800GT 256MB AGP /w fanless heatsinks

Testing parts, as many of them had not been used for several years, and not been stored properly. Did not use the fan on the CPU heatsink for short testing:

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Turned out these parts were dead:

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The Duron 700 seems to have a part of its core chipped of. It started to smell of burned plastic and chemicals when I fired it up. Not good!

The XP-M and the memory just failed to boot in the A7N8X-E motherboard.

So here are the parts I'll be using:

Athlon XP 2800+ Barton /w Thermalright copper heatsink
3x 512MB RAM
Asus A7N8X-E motherboard
Geforce 6800GT 256MB AGP /w fanless heatsinks
Harddrive not yet decided

I'll post more when I've cleaned the case and installed the motherboard 😀

Last edited by vetz on 2013-01-21, 21:05. Edited 1 time in total.

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Reply 2 of 27, by cdoublejj

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I have found that just about any barton core run windows 7 just as well as it runs xp, though 1gb and lower ram you will need to turn some stuff off. Barton cores were ahead of their time. At the shop we still have some customers who still have barton machines still kicking along, one guy refuses to get rid of his.

Reply 3 of 27, by swaaye

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Socket A chips often have damage but they seem to be pretty tolerant of this damage. In retrospect it's amazing AMD and Intel even tried going without heatspreaders for awhile. Surely that was all penny pinching.

Reply 4 of 27, by vetz

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More pieces of hardware going into the build:

- Voodoo 2 SLI (for older games the GF6800 does not support, and GLIDE!)
- Audigy 2
- Gameport bracket
- 300GB Samsung drive

Case has been cleaned and the fan control is working. Surprised to see the front case fans have blue LEDs.

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Reply 6 of 27, by vetz

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Done with installing all the hardware. Some pics:

Front of the case with the FAN control hooked up to front fans and sidefan (set to lowest RPM), temperature readers (mounted on motherboard and HDD) and the LEDs turned on. I've also connected the USB, Firewire and audio cables to the motherboard (which has built-in USB 2.0, Firewire, Sound, S-ATA, etc)
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I am not sure if I'll keep the door fan. It looks a bit "too much" with the lights and everything, but I thought it wouldn't hurt to get some extra cooling on the Voodoo2's.

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The hardware:
Missing on of the clips for the 92MM CPU fan, but it sits fine anyway. The 92MM is 800RPM or something, it's extremely quiet.
It got quite packet with all of the hardware pressed in. From bottom and up:
- Voodoo 2 12MB in SLI
- Audigy 2
- Game bracket (controller on motherboard)
- Geforce 6800GT with massive passive heatsink
- Front audio connection.

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With a 300GB harddrive and probably the latest hardware to support Windows 98 (and Voodoo2 SLI for the older games) I would be stupid not to run dual boot. Plans are to install Windows XP and Windows 98 😀 Does anyone have any clue if Audigy 2 have any DOS support?

Pretty sure this rig will run almost all Windows games from 1995 to 2006.

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Reply 8 of 27, by vetz

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I bought it new back in 2003 along with the motherboard and CPU. Thermalright SP-97 is the model

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Reply 9 of 27, by chinny22

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You can get the Audigy card working in dos with hacked drivers, takes a bit of messing round though.

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Reply 10 of 27, by Mau1wurf1977

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vetz wrote:

Does anyone have any clue if Audigy 2 have any DOS support?

Hmm if you can't get it to work, the Live! certainly does. Though a Vortex 2 based card is an even better solution 😀

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Reply 11 of 27, by vetz

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I already got a Vortex 2 card in my 440BX machine, and I do plan on playing later Windows games on this, thus the Audigy 2 will be a good fit.

I won't play much DOS games on this machine, as I have my 486 and Compaq for that, but it is always nice to have the option 😀

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Reply 13 of 27, by vetz

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I'm thinking of switching out the case on this build. What do you guys think about this Lian Li case?
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Reply 15 of 27, by m1919

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vetz wrote:
I'm thinking of switching out the case on this build. What do you guys think about this Lian Li case? https://dl.dropbox.com/u/5 […]
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I'm thinking of switching out the case on this build. What do you guys think about this Lian Li case?
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Hells yeah move to that case!

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Reply 16 of 27, by fillosaurus

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You can forget about sound in DOS mode. I am talking from personal experience. nForce motherboards work great with XP but are a PITA with 98.
My nr. 2 PC has a similar configuration (Gigabyte 7N400 Pro2, nForce 2 Ultra, 2 Gb DDR dual channel, Sempron 3000+) and making it work well in 98 was difficult. Never managed to make the sound work in DOS mode, be it SB Live, 128, ESS Solo or any other of my PCI soundcards.
AFAIK, this is caused by nVidia's particular implementation of PCI; Instead of a single PCI bus they used several independent PCI buses connected by PCI bridges.

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Reply 18 of 27, by badmojo

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Yeah I have that case too and love the way you can pull it to bits without a screwdriver, all neat modules that go together with thumb screws.

I don't have those snazzy silver drive covers though, me wants, will have to keep an eye out.

Reply 19 of 27, by subhuman@xgtx

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fillosaurus wrote:

You can forget about sound in DOS mode. I am talking from personal experience. nForce motherboards work great with XP but are a PITA with 98.
My nr. 2 PC has a similar configuration (Gigabyte 7N400 Pro2, nForce 2 Ultra, 2 Gb DDR dual channel, Sempron 3000+) and making it work well in 98 was difficult. Never managed to make the sound work in DOS mode, be it SB Live, 128, ESS Solo or any other of my PCI soundcards.
AFAIK, this is caused by nVidia's particular implementation of PCI; Instead of a single PCI bus they used several independent PCI buses connected by PCI bridges.

Yes, same here. I somehow managed to make my Abit AN7 system work under 98se, but it was hard since there were a lot of IRQ conflicts that I couldn't solve at all due to ACPI.

Also, with an Obsidian2 or a 2 card Voodoo2 SLI setup performance with Fv2 drivers was bad(Same under 2000 or XP), and with the only driver they performed great (3.02.02 reference) they would hang up when exiting a game and running other one later. However, everything ran perfectly on a KT333 DFI motherboard.

Your mileage may vary though

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