I had a BH6 back in '98 too. Ran a Klamath, a Deschutes and then a Katmai. My board developed cold boot problems though (I often had to use reset to get it going). Ever had that problem with your boards?

In '99, I replaced the BH6 with a BF6 because of that cold boot issue and because I wanted the beefier power regulation and superior Softmenu options. I still have the BF6 today. I have eyed BH6 boards on ebay occasionally though!

Will windows 98se be able to handle the 768mb of ram? i read that everything above 512 is cousing problems.

Nahkri wrote:

Will windows 98se be able to handle the 768mb of ram? i read that everything above 512 is cousing problems.

Yes it will. Just configure for it.

Nahkri wrote:

Will windows 98se be able to handle the 768mb of ram? i read that everything above 512 is cousing problems .

I did the maxfilecache hack so it works perfectly 😀

swaaye wrote:

I had a BH6 back in '98 too. Ran a Klamath, a Deschutes and then a Katmai. My board developed cold boot problems though (I often had to use reset to get it going). Ever had that problem with your boards?

I have never had any cold boot issues with the BH6 but with the MSI MS6119 BX board I often had to restart 3 times before it acually posted.

Some more pics
The hardware is now dressed 😀

Its time for an update and an upgrade!

This is the Windos 98 system I use for DX7 and DX8 games.
The Katmai @ 672 mhz was not that fast in games from 2001 - 2002 so I upgraded it to a Coppermine 850 @ 952 mhz.
It is possible that this system will get an even faster Coppermine or perhaps a modified Tualatin in the future.
I also upgraded the Video Card from a GF3 TI200 to a GF4 TI4600.

The new video card and two Coppermine P3 1000(133) on slotkets for future use.

The BH6 system with the new Video Card and a Coppermine P3 850 on a slotket.

I like the classic In Win Q500 tower. One of my favourite cases from that time (another being the Enlight EN-7230).

GL1zdA wrote:

I like the classic In Win Q500 tower. One of my favourite cases from that time (another being the Enlight EN-7230).

I also like the case. Its nice that you can mount the hdd and floppy drive in the top of the case.
I should get it cleaned up and install the missing drive bay covers.

And that other case you mentioned... 😀
I had one of those aswell for one of my other systems.
I just found the case in my cold storage and used it for building a fast DOS 6.22 + Windows 3.11 system.

Man that case is massive!!! but that's the kind of style I Like, not boring but just a few nice simple lines how they put the FDD next to the power button is a nice space saver as well (not that space is a problem here)
I like the build but wouldn't a newer sound card be a better option for windows games, What are you mostly playing on it?

Have you gotten any retro bright yet? Makes the yellowed plastics appear white again.

nforce4max wrote:

Have you gotten any retro bright yet? Makes the yellowed plastics appear white again.

Spray paint would look cooler.

chinny22 wrote:

Man that case is massive!!! but that's the kind of style I Like, not boring but just a few nice simple lines how they put the FDD next to the power button is a nice space saver as well (not that space is a problem here)
I like the build but wouldn't a newer sound card be a better option for windows games, What are you mostly playing on it?

The AWE64 is there to avoid problems. This motherboard has no PCI 133/4 divider.
As you see I am using an ISA network card aswell.
The only important thing using PCI is the motherboards hdd controller. As long as I use a HDD that can handle 44 mhz PCI I can use the 133 mhz setting if I have to.
Its not an issue with the Coppermine 850 but with a Tualatin 1400(133) or a Coppermine 1133.
I think I have to get another hdd though of I want to use the 133 mhz setting. I tried it with one of the Coppermine P3 1000(133).
Stability was OK but it took double the time to boot Windows and that is not a good sign. Perhaps it can be solved by switching to PIO mode.

nforce4max wrote:

Have you gotten any retro bright yet? Makes the yellowed plastics appear white again.

sliderider wrote:

Spray paint would look cooler.

No retro bright yet. I think I will try the retro bright before I do something as drastic as using spray paint 😀

Why overclock such a nicely restored system. Just leave it at stock and enjoy it!

Mau1wurf1977 wrote:

Why overclock such a nicely restored system. Just leave it at stock and enjoy it!

If we are talking about the 850@952 I can only answer that with: Why not? The extra performance do some good and its not like a Coppermine P3 850 cares if it runs at 850 or 952.
I can still enjoy my system when its a little bit faster 😀 I could use the 124 mhz fsb setting but I do not because I like to stay at default voltage and keep the PCI-bus closer to spec.

If we are talking about the 133 mhz fsb setting with a 133 mhz fsb CPU then it is only the PCI and AGP that gets overclocked, the CPU is at its default speed.
I do not think I will use a 133 mhz fsb CPU in this system permanently but its nice to have the option for benching if not for anything else.

Whilst I know the the BH6 was a decent overclocker, why bother with the risk of damaging it? Those boards are excruciatingly difficult to find & are expensive.

Id be more comfortable with getting a 900, 1000 or 1100 Coppermine.

I agree with mau1wurf on this one. But it is your system 😀

Forevermore wrote:

Whilst I know the the BH6 was a decent overclocker, why bother with the risk of damaging it? Those boards are excruciatingly difficult to find & are expensive.

Id be more comfortable with getting a 900, 1000 or 1100 Coppermine.

I agree with mau1wurf on this one. But it is your system 😀

I think we will have to agree on disagreeing 😀

I have never seen any hardware damaged by overclocking exept maybe Socket-A CPUs but those burn if you look at them the wrong way.
I have also experienced that overclocked Video Cards that run very hot will not overclock as well after a few years but I think that mostly is because of caps degrading.

Heat can kill caps on the motherboard as well but heat is not an issue with this system at all.
Wait I just remembered I killed a MSI Canterwood board by overclocking a Prescott 😁 That board deserved to burn! If I solder a new VRM in place of the burned one I bet it would work again.

I would however prefer a P3 Coppermine 1000(100), 1100 or perhaps even a modified Tualatin Celeron 1100 - 1400 mhz.
With any of those CPUs overclocking would be totally unnecessary. The P3 850 needs the bump in speed!

I would argue that the strain on the motherboard and the CPU would be worse with the Coppermine 1100 than with the Coppermine 850@952.
1100 mhz is just at the limit of what the (revised) Coppermine core can handle.

An over revved Cumine 1000 performs fairly good, not much worse than a Tually 1400-S.

But we need the right assortment of components (RAM, GPU etc.) to make it work stably.

Why to overclock? Well, because we can.

TELVM wrote:

An over revved Cumine 1000 performs fairly good, not much worse than a Tually 1400-S.

But we need the right assortment of components (RAM, GPU etc.) to make it work stably.

Why to overclock? Well, because we can.

Nice!
I will have to update this build with the Aopen AX6BC or some other motherboard with 133/4 mhz pci divider!

I just tested two slotkets I bought with Coppermine P3 1000(133) CPUs mounted on them.
"pulled from working systems"

The slotkets will not work in any of the 3 BX boards I have tested so far.
I tested two of my own Coppermine CPUs with 100 mhz fsb on these slotkets aswell. No board will even post.
I bet the slotkets dosnt even support Coppermines.

The CPUs work but without slotkets they were expensive Coppermines...
The worst part is that I have already rated the seller because I bought 3 slotkets with CPUs a month ago, two with 1ghz CPUs and one with a 850 mhz CPU.
I only used one of the slotkets but it worked well so I thought they were all ok. At least the single working slotket works in all boards I have tried it in.
The working slotket is not of the same model as the other two but they are all "no name".