Skyscraper wrote:

In some other thread I was told that playing Unreal using 800*600 resolution was like having sex with a cactus, possible but not desirable.

Role over all fall to the floor laughing 🤣

Skyscraper wrote:

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That's raw AC power draw from the wall. For the real DC power draw we must multiply that number by the PSU efficiency, which for such a venerable PSU should be 75% at best, so 100 x 0.75 = 75W real DC draw or less.

So as weird as it sounds that 112W PSU is overkill for a PIII system 😀 .

Is that a PC or a toaster? 😁

I know these hipro psu,s.
You might want to open the psu to check for bulged filter capacitors near the atx power cords, they can also be leaky.
If so replace them if you want your new hardware to keep in this world. 😀

Btw after reading your first post again this bad filtered lines from the psu might be the cause for the socket7 board to get problematic in the first place, really check out the psu or the new board can bsod you in some days onwards.
I would replace the caps on the socket7 board though

JaNoZ wrote:

I know these hipro psu,s. You might want to open the psu to check for bulged filter capacitors near the atx power cords, they ca […]
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I know these hipro psu,s.
You might want to open the psu to check for bulged filter capacitors near the atx power cords, they can also be leaky.
If so replace them if you want your new hardware to keep in this world. 😀

Btw after reading your first post again this bad filtered lines from the psu might be the cause for the socket7 board to get problematic in the first place, really check out the psu or the new board can bsod you in some days onwards.
I would replace the caps on the socket7 board though

I guess I will have to open up that little sucker to see if there are some bad caps. Thanks for the heads-up.
I would recap the socket 7 board if the soldier pads were the normal size. They are so small that I dont think I would succeed.

The problem with that socket 7 board is that it doesn't have AGP and it only has one ISA and two usable PCI slots (if ISA is used)...

I think I would manage with those expansion slots.
The board I replaced it with has exactly the same layout.

1x Voodoo Banshee or Voodoo 3 PCI
1x Soudblaster AWE64
1x PCI for other uses

With the P3 board the ISA slot wont be used but I might put a Soundblaster Audigy in one of the free PCI slots.

It is time for a follow up.

I have upgraded this box to a Celeron 1300, downgraded the HDD and installed Windows 98.
I did some benching with the new CPU and the Voodoo 3 2000.

New spec: Celeron 1300, Via Apollo Pro 133T, 512 mb SDRAM@133MHz CL2. Voodoo 3 2000, Some random ~17GB IDE drive, Windows 98SE.

First off is Super Pi. This is actually really bad, it gets beaten by a huge margin by the Coppermine Celeron 1100 on Intel 440 BX.

But wait I have not installed the chipset drivers, that must be the problem! ... No.

Sisoft Sandra 99. The memory scores are just awful.

The CPU Mark 99 score is better.

3dmark 99 seems to score OK

3dmark 2000. Ok..ish

With the Voodoo 2 2000 overclocked from 143 MHz to 190 MHz the scores improve.

3dmark 99

3dmark 2000

I did also run some game benchmarks. (16bit)

GL-Quake

Celeron 1300, Voodoo 3 2000 640*480: 163.9 FPS
Celeron 1300, Voodoo 3 2000 1024*768: 59.9 FPS
Celeron 1300, Voodoo 3 2000 OC 640*480: 210.4 FPS
Celeron 1300, Voodoo 3 2000 OC 1024*768: 78.9 FPS

Quake 3

Celeron 1300, Voodoo 3 2000 640*480: 84.1 FPS
Celeron 1300, Voodoo 3 2000 1024*768: 38.8 FPS
Celeron 1300, Voodoo 3 2000 OC 640*480: 93.2 FPS
Celeron 1300, Voodoo 3 2000 OC 1024*768: 51.9 FPS

Unreal Gold

Celeron 1300, Voodoo 3 2000 640*480: 103.5 FPS
Celeron 1300, Voodoo 3 2000 1024*768: 50.3 FPS
Celeron 1300, Voodoo 3 2000 1280*1024: 37.6 FPS
Celeron 1300, Voodoo 3 2000 OC 640*480: 113.4 FPS
Celeron 1300, Voodoo 3 2000 OC 1024*768: 75.1 FPS
Celeron 1300, Voodoo 3 2000 OC 1280*1024: 45.1 FPS

In Unreal at 640*480 with the Voodoo 3 overclocked, the system is a bit bottlenecked by the CPU.
The overclocked Voodoo 3 scales much better than it should in Unreal at 1024*768. I do not know why but I have read that others also have experienced this.

Skyscraper wrote:

In Unreal at 640*480 with the Voodoo 3 overclocked, the system is a bit bottlenecked by the CPU.
The overclocked Voodoo 3 scales much better than it should in Unreal at 1024*768. I do not know why but I have read that others also have experienced this.

Possibly because of Unreal's optimized glide implementation? Everything I've read about the game's development says glide was the major focus. I bet a comparison of it running other graphics APIs at those resolutions would shed some light.

Good build. I like the micro case too. I'd paint it, but I love the size and shape.

This might help:

Full size: http://i.imgur.com/pJQksYS.png

More 3dfx Voodoo shootout benchmarks: http://www.philscomputerlab.com/3dfx-voodoo-s … ut-project.html

The non overclocked results are right on the mark. 😀

nekurahoka wrote:

Skyscraper wrote:

In Unreal at 640*480 with the Voodoo 3 overclocked, the system is a bit bottlenecked by the CPU.
The overclocked Voodoo 3 scales much better than it should in Unreal at 1024*768. I do not know why but I have read that others also have experienced this.

Possibly because of Unreal's optimized glide implementation? Everything I've read about the game's development says glide was the major focus. I bet a comparison of it running other graphics APIs at those resolutions would shed some light.

Good build. I like the micro case too. I'd paint it, but I love the size and shape.

I only wished it had a little more powerful PSU.
I did the overclocked benching with another PSU that wont fit in the case just to be on the safe side.