From the looks of that silver heatsink on the voodoo 3 it's clearly a 3000,the 2000 has a smaller black heatsink.

Great System!
There are some differents between Asus cusl2 and cusl2-c
Asus cusl2-c has problems with high fsb frequency
Is hard to reach 180mhz!
http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=2617082

If I were you, I would use evil inside bios
You can find it hier! 😀
http://www.x86-secret.com/articles/tweak/i815twken.htm
It will solve some problems

@Nahkri: Interesting bit of info, thanks 😀 . I never owned a Voodoo 3/4/5 before so I'm not familiar at all with their appearance or performance. This build will let me fill in some gaps and gain some valuable experience as well.

@Stermy57: thanks for the links and concerns, but I'm not an overcloker - it's just not in my blood. I prefer to run my retro builds with default settings so all I have to do is hit the power switch and go; I just feel more comfortable this way ^^

I will also mention that I'll be looking for an ATX case and PSU as well, since I do want to get my Pentium 4 back up and running once the Soyo board gets fixed.

Here's a site where u can find pics of almost all videocards with 3dfx chips http://tdfx.de/eng/grafikkarten_alle.shtml

I like the CM 330 case, mine is the PSU high version.

I suck at cable management too, so long as nothing goes in a fan, that's good enough ... no windowed cases for me.

Not sure about the side fan configuration - with the back fan slurping the heat out, wouldn't have bothered - not sure if the side high is intake, blowing at the CPU, or more extraction.

Nahkri wrote:

Here's a site where u can find pics of almost all videocards with 3dfx chips http://tdfx.de/eng/grafikkarten_alle.shtml

Excellent, that site has just about every single piece of 3dfx hardware ever produced; there's even a picture of the RealVision Flash 3D, my first ever Voodoo 1 card! It's too bad I lost the Flash 3D in 2005 (I've replaced it with a Monster 3D recently, but somehow it just doesn't quite feel the same as before). Thanks again Nahkri 😀

Matth79 wrote:

I like the CM 330 case, mine is the PSU high version.

I suck at cable management too, so long as nothing goes in a fan, that's good enough ... no windowed cases for me.

Agree on both.

Not sure about the side fan configuration - with the back fan slurping the heat out, wouldn't have bothered - not sure if the side high is intake, blowing at the CPU, or more extraction.

It's supposed to be intake and blow at the CPU, but the position the fan is in almost misses the P3 CPU entirely. I'm going to remove it and see how the CPU temps are without it.

I also edited my initial post to properly identify the Voodoo 3 😊

The following capacitors need replacing:

A small update: got the Belkin USB 2 card from eBay. It came with driver CD and user manual.

Installing the card and driver was painless. And after updating with NUSB36, Win98SE can now recognize my USB thumb drives 😀

I also removed the side fan (as suggested by Matth79) and saw CPU temps drop to 35-36 C.

I will still look for a better CPU cooler, just in case ^^

In my box of spare memory sticks I found this 512mb PC133 DIMM.

I'm tempted to use it, but it has higher latency than the two 128mb PC133 DIMMS I have (CAS3 vs CAS2). I'll probably do some testing to see which is actually better.

Finally, I'm just about done configuring and tweaking Win98SE. I will do some benchmarks to see how capable this build is overall.

JayCeeBee64 wrote:

And after updating with NUSB36, Win98SE can now recognize my USB thumb drives 😀

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Didn't the usb drive work on the motherboard's usb conectors ?

They did, but were painfully slow - which is why I got the Belkin for, faster transfer speeds 😊

EDIT: The CUSL2-C only has USB 1.1 connectors.

http://www.motherboards.org/mobot/motherboard … d/ASUS/CUSL2-C/

Finally got some benchmark results.

The Voodoo 3 3000 gets decent scores with 3DMark99 and 3DMark2000; 3DMark2001SE is not that good, however (limited DX8 support).

GL Excess is a benchmark I've never heard of before; gave it a go with the Voodoo 3 and the scores appear to be decent as well (thanks swaaye for the link).

PCMark2002 and SuperPi scores 😀

Funny that SiSoft Sandra 99 thinks I have a Celeron 800 (obviously the P3 800EB it's not in the database); good thing CPU-Z knows better 😁

Overall this build is going according to plan; It's a good performer, very stable, and all the hardware works well together. Now to install some games and see how they do with the Voodoo 3 😊

JayCeeBee64 wrote:

Funny that SiSoft Sandra 99 thinks I have a Celeron 800 (obviously the P3 800EB it's not in the database); good thing CPU-Z knows better 😁

If Sandra 99 is really from '99 (seems it is even from '98?) than both CPUs shouldn't be in its database (P3 800EB released march 2000 (S370, dec 1999 for Slot 1), Celeron 800 jan 2001). I suppose it's guessing and guesses wrong. It probably doesn't know Coppermine at all (released oct 1999) and guesses Celeron because L2 cache is less than 512kB and full-speed.

A more apropriate videocard for this system would be a Geforce 2.

Tnx for the GL Excess link.
*Censored*, it looks like Radeon HD2600 Pro Agp not supports the sphere mapping at all (scene 7 and scene 8 )...

Gamecollector wrote:

Tnx for the GL Excess link.
*Censored*, it looks like Radeon HD2600 Pro Agp not supports the sphere mapping at all (scene 7 and scene 8 )...

The Voodoo 3 doesn't do too well either - Scene 2 is just a bright white screen and Scene 11 has these funny-looking long rectangles instead of streams with the searchlights.

Nahkri wrote:

A more apropriate videocard for this system would be a Geforce 2.

I agree, and do have a GF2 GTS set aside (also a GF3 Ti 200 and P3 1GHz Coppermine); I'm going to play around with the Voodoo 3 and P3 800EB some more first, though 😀

I suppose Voodoo 3 doesn't report temperature - I'd be inclined to consider a side low fan, rather than a side high.

The other possible (actually, I thought this case came with it) would be a passive pipe in the top position, to release cool intake air closer to the CPU - came with my version, but the side panel had two different grilles.

Yup, no temp sensor on the Voodoo 3; I've also been considering placing the fan on the lower grille to take air out, now that I see how warm the Voodoo 3 gets after some heavy use with Unreal and Half-Life. And no, my Elite 330U didn't come with any passive pipes; this version is designed for newer PC hardware that places the CPU socket and cooler lower than the CUSL2-C does.

And just a bit of a minor update: I managed to get the Santa Cruz DOS emulation working. It took some old-fashioned IRQ dancing and sleight-of-hand, but it's done and ready for an experiment that I want to undertake, preferably on a weekend (and no, it doesn't involve playing DOS games. It is something related to DOS games, however ^^). I just hope Real Life gives me a break from the constant barrage I've endured as of late 😒

JayCeeBee64 wrote:

@Stermy57: thanks for the links and concerns, but I'm not an overcloker - it's just not in my blood. I prefer to run my retro builds with default settings so all I have to do is hit the power switch and go; I just feel more comfortable this way ^^

Oh yes me too 😀
My retro platform made for gaming run at stock frequency
This bios that I said to you is better than the standard even if you don't want to overclock

Quite frankly, I don't see how this i815 BIOS Tweaker is any better. Other than overclocking fixes (which I don't need), it's about the same as the last official Asus beta BIOS. Unless there's something in it that I really need, I'll just pass on it 😀