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Reply 20 of 33, by Half-Saint

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With a different CF adapter I was able to boot into DOS and load Wolf3D but it froze at the menu. I guess I'll have to try different memory chips after all.

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Reply 21 of 33, by Half-Saint

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There is a ghost in the machine or something 😀

I replaced all memory chips with known good ones but still couldn't get it to wake up, if onboard IDE controller was used. Was able to boot off an ISA controller and play some Wolf3D. Things were looking good until I tried that stunt again. Now it's back to freezing for no apparent reason.

I'll try disabling both the onboard IDE and floppy controllers, see if it helps.

Any more ideas?

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Reply 22 of 33, by kubino

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Hi

some time ago I had similar issue when installed additional ISA card. the issue caused IDE controller. I had to replace the card. Maybe disabling onboard IDE will work for you.

Reply 26 of 33, by Nvm1

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Half-Saint wrote:

Not the power supply either, just tested with two other AT power supplies and it's freezing up all the same.

After reading all I suspect either a bad Bios or a minor connection break somewhere on the board.
If you have time inspect every leg you can find on the chips if they are okay. Reseating the Bios sometimes fix such issues also.

Tricky boards those old 286 things but it rarely happens that they can't be brought back alive. 🤣
Usually it's just being patient to find the cause.

Reply 27 of 33, by Robin4

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Maybe dried-out capacitors.. Electrolyte capacitors dont live for ever.. If they worn out the board will getting unstable.

~ At least it can do black and white~

Reply 28 of 33, by Half-Saint

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Tthere aren't any elcos on the board that I can see... maybe it has something to do with parity chips? I'll try taking them out and see what happens.

I'm thinking about buying NOS memory from eBay. Would this work with my board?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/NOS-8pc-lot-256k-x-4- … =item280564e181

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Reply 30 of 33, by Half-Saint

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Probably will have to scrap it. Reseating the chips didn't help and replacing the keyboard connector didn't help either. At least I can save the RAM and coprocessor.

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Reply 31 of 33, by Skyscraper

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Half-Saint wrote:

Yeah, for testing I removed EVERYTHING except the video card and the CF card to eliminate all possible errors. I tried two different VGA cards.

Desolder and save the crystals and other useful stuff, I would even desolder and save the CPU as 16 MHz 286 CPUs are starting to become rare. You can use a heat gun to desolder the CPU if you dont care about the board, the CPU will probably survive if you do not heat it to more than 225C - 250C long enough for the solder to melt.

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Reply 32 of 33, by chinny22

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Shame, but at lest you will have saved some of it, not scrapped the entire thing like the person before

Reply 33 of 33, by PeterLI

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I salvaged what I could: CPU, FDD, SIMMs, jumpers, BIOS, riser and they all found new owners. The MOBO and case were recycled. I do not solder.

I also typically offer dead things for free but people are not willing to pay for shipping usually.