There's a glitch in the matrix.
A founding member of the 286 appreciation society.
Apparently 32-bit is dead and nobody likes P4s. Of course, as always, I'm open to correction...😉
Thanks! Unfortunately I have kind of a problem now, I don't know what to build next/aka for me the collection is kind of complete.
I've got tons of spare parts too (countless CPUs of all generations and tons of RAM, hard drives and optical drives as well as floppy drives and cases/PSUs not listed):
Haha. Yep. A lot of the spare CPUs and boards I have are Intel based. Mostly p3 stuff though I do have several socket 7 Intel CPUs that I mess around with sometimes in the K6 and Rise setups. My laptop is an i5. I also had a Q6600 setup until recently...gave it to my sister. When the phenom 975 finally feels like it doesn't cut it for me anymore I'll probably go Intel based, but for now it still suits me fine.
I've just been an AMD fan since the days of the 5x86 and socket 7 era. Most of these builds are similar to setups I had through the years n
Good to see some <486 systems being preserved.
When I joined Vogons I had just unearthed my old Cyrix PC from the garage and told myself I'd stop once that was renovated.
That machine became my K6-3+ system.
Then I read about all the cool things other people were doing and wanted to try them myself 🤣
Amstrad CPC with Gotek, 512K ROM & RAM expansion
IBM XT 5160 with 5153 & Model F, 640K + UMB, SB Pro 2, XT-IDE, Gotek
Victor 8086-10 laptop with 640K + UMB, Dual drive HxC
Tandy TL/2 with Tandy monitor & keyboard, EGA, 2MB EMS, SB16, XT-IDE, Gotek (in progress)
Thinkpad 486 DX4, 20MB, Dock I, SB16, CDROM
K6-3+ on Intel TX, 256MB, GF2 MX400, Voodoo2, PCX2, AWE64 Gold, GUS, 3C905, MPU401 compatible, LS120, 3.5 & 5.25 floppy, CD changer
T-Bird 1200 on KT266 with DDR, GF3 Ti200, Voodoo3, Monster Sound MX200, DB-50XG
MT-32, CM-32L, SC-55
It's been a fun 3 years 😎
Unless something really cool comes up at a good price, I can't see any more systems happening.
Might sell off the IBM if the Tandy turns out to be as good as I hope.
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nemail wrote:Finally I found the time to go through all of my retro rigs and "kind of" finish them and make a spreadsheet about them.
Here yo […] Show full quote
Haha. Yep. A lot of the spare CPUs and boards I have are Intel based. Mostly p3 stuff though I do have several socket 7 Intel CPUs that I mess around with sometimes in the K6 and Rise setups. My laptop is an i5. I also had a Q6600 setup until recently...gave it to my sister. When the phenom 975 finally feels like it doesn't cut it for me anymore I'll probably go Intel based, but for now it still suits me fine.
I've just been an AMD fan since the days of the 5x86 and socket 7 era. Most of these builds are similar to setups I had through the years n
so you know how good performance feels and still stick to AMD? respect 😉
just kidding, to be honest I can't say anything about the day to day performance of AMD CPUs since So462 at all. Only reading about Benchmarks and Intel leading all the time...
bjt wrote:
When I joined Vogons I had just unearthed my old Cyrix PC from the garage and told myself I'd stop once that was renovated.
That machine became my K6-3+ system.
Then I read about all the cool things other people were doing and wanted to try them myself 🤣
I started with the itos 386/16SX which I got from my grandpa (used) many years ago. I don't know how it happened, but suddenly I found myself between tons of vintage Hardware 🤣
kixs wrote:
Nice collection. Looking at the descriptions in the spreadsheet you put just the right components together. 😎
nemail wrote:so you know how good performance feels and still stick to AMD? respect ;-)
just kidding, to be honest I can't say anything about […] Show full quote
petro89 wrote:
Haha. Yep. A lot of the spare CPUs and boards I have are Intel based. Mostly p3 stuff though I do have several socket 7 Intel CPUs that I mess around with sometimes in the K6 and Rise setups. My laptop is an i5. I also had a Q6600 setup until recently...gave it to my sister. When the phenom 975 finally feels like it doesn't cut it for me anymore I'll probably go Intel based, but for now it still suits me fine.
I've just been an AMD fan since the days of the 5x86 and socket 7 era. Most of these builds are similar to setups I had through the years n
so you know how good performance feels and still stick to AMD? respect 😉
just kidding, to be honest I can't say anything about the day to day performance of AMD CPUs since So462 at all. Only reading about Benchmarks and Intel leading all the time...
bjt wrote:
When I joined Vogons I had just unearthed my old Cyrix PC from the garage and told myself I'd stop once that was renovated.
That machine became my K6-3+ system.
Then I read about all the cool things other people were doing and wanted to try them myself 🤣
I started with the itos 386/16SX which I got from my grandpa (used) many years ago. I don't know how it happened, but suddenly I found myself between tons of vintage Hardware 🤣
kixs wrote:
Nice collection. Looking at the descriptions in the spreadsheet you put just the right components together. 😎
thanks, I've tried my best 😀
Of course a new i7 would blow away my phenom, but I really wouldn't see a difference for what I use it for. Most games I play are older, and even my FX60 handles them with no issues, so the phenom is overkill. I kinda consider the phenom II the last CPU amd made that was really comparable to the Intel CPU it competed against, in this case the core 2 quad. Problem was AMD released it too late and by then Intel had new offerings. As I said these are all setups that are similar to ones I've had through the years but I also try to keep them somewhat unique. Not too many slot a setups out there anymore (of course this is true with all older hardware, but also relatively speaking there are a lot more slot 1 setups out there). Same holds true for the FX60. Same holds true for a dual Athlon MP setup. Same holds true with the dual slot 1 p3 500. With me it's more about the fun of working with the parts of the past. Reliving memories of old parts and games. Working with parts and setups that I in no way could have afforded way back when. It just happens that I've stuck mainly with AMD.
I'm still searching for some of parts (see my sig)... Only then I'll put everything together and complete my collection. I hope to get _down_ to 10 computers (286 to s939) 🤣
Of course a new i7 would blow away my phenom, but I really wouldn't see a difference for what I use it for. Most games I play are older, and even my FX60 handles them with no issues, so the phenom is overkill. I kinda consider the phenom II the last CPU amd made that was really comparable to the Intel CPU it competed against, in this case the core 2 quad. Problem was AMD released it too late and by then Intel had new offerings. As I said these are all setups that are similar to ones I've had through the years but I also try to keep them somewhat unique. Not too many slot a setups out there anymore (of course this is true with all older hardware, but also relatively speaking there are a lot more slot 1 setups out there). Same holds true for the FX60. Same holds true for a dual Athlon MP setup. Same holds true with the dual slot 1 p3 500. With me it's more about the fun of working with the parts of the past. Reliving memories of old parts and games. Working with parts and setups that I in no way could have afforded way back when. It just happens that I've stuck mainly with AMD.
you have a point 😀
edit: this was about retro rigs initially but just to top everything else 🤣 here's my most recent hardware I have in use:
- i7 4790, Asus Z97-somethingl33t-ultr4h4x0r-youdontsay, 16GB memory, Samsung Pro 850 512GB, 2x512GB WD Black RAID 0, Geforce GTX770 4GB, HP ZR2740w display
- i7 870, Asus Don'tAskMe, 16GB memory, Intel 320 120GB, 1x1TB WD Green, Geforce 560Ti 2GB
- i7 4790, Asus Z97-something-l33t-ultr4h4x0r-youdontsay, 32GB memory, Samsung Pro 840 512GB, 4x4TB WD Green RAID 5 with 2x 128GB SSD Cache (Samsung 840 Pro), 4x2TB WD Green RAID 10 (home lab #1)
- HP Microserver Gen8 i3-3220T, 16GB memory, 4x2TB mixed vendor disks (home lab #2 at my dads place)
- HP ProLiant ML330 G6 Xeon X5670, 96GB memory, 8x1TB RAID 5 mixed vendor disks, 2xSamsung Pro 850 512GB (no RAID) (home lab #3 at my dads place)
- HP Microserver N40L, 6GB memory, 4x1TB mixed vendor disks RAID 5 (backup server for my home labs)
-Pentium 4 1.7GHz WIllamette (I really need a 2.8GHz Northwood),Gigabyte GA-8IE2004,WD Protege 8GB,Pixelview Geforce FX5200 128MB AGP,1GB RAM (single stick), Delux ATX-450W P4 (OEM'd by Sun Pro),Windows 98 SE w/Plus!
-Celeron 2.00GHz Northwood-128,ASRock P4i65G,WDC WD800JD-60LSA5,Radeon 9250 SE 128MB (soon to be replaced by 128MB FX5500 or 128MB R9550) ,512MB RAM,Codegen 300X1 300W PSU (they're their own OEM),Windows 7 SP1 x86
Portable:
Compaq Armada 110 - Pentium 3 866Mhz, Trident Cyberblade i1,256MB RAM,20GB HDD,XP Home SP2
Fujitsu Siemens Amillo D7820 - Pentium 4 2.8GHz Northwood,SiS645DX+Radeon Mobility 9000,256MB RAM DDR,10GB HDD,Windows 98 SE
"Enter at your own peril, past the bolted door..."
Main PC: i5 3470, GB B75M-D3H, 16GB RAM, 2x1TB
98SE : P3 650, Soyo SY-6BA+IV, 384MB RAM, 80GB
From the picture above, number 6 (PIII 1400 - mainly Windows 98), number 7 (MMX233 - mainly DOS/Windows 3.11) and number 8 (Athlon64 X2 3800+ - Windows XP SP3) are all active, sharing a 2-display (not so modern Asus 24" and Samsung 20" LCDs) setup with my main rig (core2 quad - windows 7 32bit) via an Aten 4-way KVM/sound/USB switch (below). All the others are in working condition but shelved. Number 6 is for late DOS/W9x games, (1994-2001), number 7 is only for nostalgia (loaded with old application software (like Word 2.0, AutoCAD 10, FORTRAN compilers, Matlab, Mathcad, etc.) and number 8 is the secondary rig and for XP games (2001-2008). All my GOG and Windows 7 friendly games are in the main rig (see picture below).
As a side note, we share this space with my 10 year old daughter and the one below on the right is her PC (Phenom II X6 1090 - Windows 10). You can also see my original game shelves in here (only 4 boxed games - Wing Commander 3, Star Wars Supremacy, StarCraft Battlechest, C&C Collection). The red bag in the bottom picture is my Wife's old netbook (Asus EeePC 1008HA or something like that).
These are the specs for all 8 of them:
1:
Intel 386SX-16 + Ulsi 387SX Mathco
Hedeka HED923 MB + 5MB RAM (1MB 30pin SIMM x 4 + 44256 DIPP x 8 )
OAK 067 512KB VGA/EGA/CGA/MDA ISA
Sound Blaster 16 CT1740 ISA
Adaptec AHA-1520B ISA
3com 3C509B-TP ISA
Generic Multi I/O + IDE Controller ISA
CF to IDE adapter (back panel)
Maxtor 7210AT 210MB IDE
3.5" NEC 1.44MB Floppy
5.25" Teac 1.2MB Floppy
IBM CDRM00203 CD-ROM SCSI
MS-DOS 6.22 + Windows 3.11
(This is the recreation of my first PC, so I'm looking for a reasonably priced SB Pro 2.0, non-IDE Creative CD-ROM, and ST157A 40MB HDD for authenticity)
2:
AMD 386DX-40 + IIT 487DLC40 Mathco
Unichip 367C/UNI-386WB MB + 64MB RAM (16MB 30 pin SIMM x4)
Cirrus Logic GD5429 2MB ISA
Sound Blaster AWE32 PNP CT3670 ISA + 8MB RAM (4MB x 2 30 pin SIMM)
Adaptec AHA-1540CP ISA
3Com 3C509B Combo 10BASE-T ISA
Western Digital Multi I/O IDE Controller ISA
Startech Serial x 2 ISA
CF to IDE adapter (back panel)
Quantum Fireball EX3.2 3.2GB ATA
Quantum Fireball ST3.2S 3.2GB SCSI
3.5" Mitsumi 1.44MB floppy
5.25" Ye-Data 1.2MB floppy
LG CRD-8522 52x CD-ROM IDE
MS-DOS 6.22 + Windows 3.11
3:
Intel Pentium MMX 233
PC Chips TXPro M560 MB + 256MB RAM (64MB x 2 PC100 SDRAM, 64MB x 2 72 pin SIMM)
Asus 3DP-V3000TV 4MB PCI
Sound Blaster AWE64 Value CT4500 ISA + SIMMCONN + 8MB 72 pin SIMM
Adaptec AHA-2940UW PCI
3Com 3C900B Combo PCI
Generic WinModem Voice PCI
CF to IDE adapter (back panel)
Maxtor Fireball 30GB 2F030J ATA
Maxtor Fireball 30GB 2F030J ATA
Compaq BD01863 18GB SCSI
3.5" Mitsumi 1.44MB
Asus CRW-3212A CD-RW IDE
MS-DOS 6.22 + Windows 3.11 / Windows 95
4:
Intel Celeron 466
Zida/Tomato ZX98-CT + 256MB RAM (128MB x 2 PC133 SDRAM)
3Dfx Voodoo 3 3000 16MB AGP
S3 Trio64V2/DX 2MB PCI
Sound Blaster AWE64 CT4380 ISA + SIMMCONN + 32MB 72 pin SIMM
3Com 3C905B-TX PCI
Slot Fan
CF to IDE adapter (back panel)
ActionTech PC700 PCMCIA Card Reader Controller ISA
Quantum Fireball Plus LM 20GB ATA
Quantum Fireball Plus AS 20GB ATA
3.5" Alps Electronic 1.44MB
LG GCE-8525 DVD-RW IDE
HP Colorado T3000 Tape Backup
Actiontech PC700 PCMCIA Card Reader
MS-DOS 6.22 + Windows 3.11 / Windows 98SE
5:
Intel Pentium III 733
Gigabyte GA-6VXE7+ + 1GB RAM (512MB x 2 Kingston PC133 SDRAM)
Matrox Millenium II 4MB PCI + 8MB Add-on
3Dfx Voodoo 3 3000 16MB AGP
3Dfx Voodoo 2 12MB PCI
Sound Blaster AWE64 Value CT4520 ISA + SIMMCONN + 32MB 72 pin SIMM
Adaptec AHA-29160 PCI
Surecom EP-325 Realtek 8029AS PCI
Maxtor DiamondMax Plus 8 30GB ATA
Maxtor DiamondMax Plus 8 30GB ATA
Samsung SpinPoint V40+ 40GB ATA
Maxtor Atlas 10K V 73GB SCSI
Maxtor Atlas 10K V 73GB SCSI
Maxtor Atlas 15K II 73GB SCSI
Fujitsu MAP3367NP 36GB SCSI
Seagate ST33607LW 36GB SCSI
3.5" Mitsumi 1.44MB
5.25" Teac 1.2MB
LG GSA4040B DVD-RW IDE
HP Surestore DAT8 Tape Backup
MS-DOS 6.22 + Windows 3.11 / MS-DOS 6.22 + Desqview / MS-DOS 6.22 + Calmira / FreeDOS 1.0/ MS-DOS 7.1 / Windows 95/ Windows 98SE/ Windows 98SE + Revolution Pack / Windows NT 4.0 WS / Windows 2000 / Windows ME / Windows XP / BeOS Personal / OS2 Warp 4
6:
Intel Pentium III 1400
Gigabyte GA-6VTXE + 512MB PC133 Kingston SDRAM
Leadtek Winfast Nvidia Geforce2 Ultra 64MB AGP
Diamond Monster 3D II Voodoo 2 12MB PCI x 2 in SLI
Sound Blaster AWE64 Gold CT4640 ISA + SIMMCONN + 32MB 72 pin SIMM
Adaptec AHA-29160 PCI
3Com 3C905C-TX-M PCI
Samsung SP1213N 120GB ATA
Seagate Barracuda 7200.7 80GB ATA
Compaq BD14688278 146GB SCSI
IBM eServer 8D07310 73GB SCSI
3.5" Mitsumi 1.44MB
3.5" Gotek USB Floppy Emulator
LG GSAH44N DVD-RW IDE
3.5" CF to IDE Adapter
MS-DOS 6.22 + Windows 3.11/ Windows 95 OSR 2.1 / Windows 98SE / Windows ME / Windows 2000
(1.2MB 5.25" FDD replaced by Gotek Floppy Emulator after the photo)
7:
Intel Pentium MMX 233
Asus TXP4-X + 64MB RAM (64MB x 1 PC100 SDRAM)
3Dfx Voodoo 3 16 MB PCI
Sound Blaster 16 CT2230 ISA + NEC XR895 Wavetable
Adaptec AHA-2940UW PCI
3Com 3C900B Combo PCI
Aztech MSP2950-W Modem PCI
Seagate Barracuda 7200.7 80GB ATA
Compaq BD07288277 73GB SCSI
Compaq BF03685A35 36GB SCSI
3.5" NEC 1.44MB
5.25" Epson 1.2MB
Pioneer DVR-A18LBK DVD-RW IDE
3.5" CF to IDE Adapter
Iomega ZIP 250MB IDE
MS-DOS 6.22 + Windows 3.11 / Windows 95 OSR 2.1 / Windows 98SE
(Pioneer DVD-RW replaced the Asus one, and the crappy Coolermaster case replaced by an exact copy of Frisby of number 6 after the photo)
8:
AMD Athlon 64 X2 3800+
Asus A8N-SLI Premium 4GB (1GB x 4 Kingston DDR 400)
Zotac Nvidia GTS 250 ECO 1GB PCIe
Sound Blaster Audigy 2 ZS SB0350 PCI
Onboard Realtek ALC850
Adaptec AHA-29160N PCI
Onboard nVidia nForce NIC
Ricoh R5C485 PCMCIA Cardbus PCI
WD Black 500GB SATA
WD Black 500GB SATA
Seagate Barracuda 7200.10 320GB SATA
Seagate Barracuda 7200.10 320GB SATA
Seagate Barracuda 7200.10 80GB SATA
Seagate Barracuda 7200.7 80GB SATA
Seagate Barracuda 7200.7 80GB SATA
Seagate Barracuda 7200.7 80GB SATA
3.5" Alps Electronics 1.44MB
TSST Copr SH-S222A DVD-RW IDE
TSST Copr SH-S222A DVD-RW IDE
Manhattan All-in-One Card Reader Black
Windows XP SP3
(looking for an Opteron 180 / Athlon 64 X2 4800+)
Some of the extra stuff from the pictures:
Microsoft Serial Compatible Mouse
Quickshot 5 Joystick
Sidewinder 3D Pro Plus Gameport Joystick
Sidewinder Precision Pro USB Joystick
Iomega ZIP Drive 250 MB Parallel
External IBM DVD-RW SCSI
External Multi Card Reader SCSI + Yamaha CD-RW SCSI
HP UM9800-W USB 56K Modem
Hayes External V92 Serial Modem
Acrox USB Hub
Dazzle 6 in 1 Card Reader USB (W98 drivers)
USB/Firewire home made External HDD 120 GB x 2 (with W98 drivers)
Quickshot Soundforce 600 Stereo Speakers
Epson V300 Scanner
Samsung CLP-310 Laser Color Printer
Nikon Coolscan IV ED Negative Scanner
Tuncmatik 1KVA Online UPS[/color]
I also have many spare and loose components, which I have a detailed Excel list for. Will try to upload it here later.
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GA-6VTXE PIII 1.4+512MB
Geforce4 Ti 4200 64MB
Diamond Monster 3D 12MB SLI
SB AWE64 PNP+32MB
120GB IDE Samsung/80GB IDE Seagate/146GB SCSI Compaq/73GB SCSI IBM
Adaptec AHA29160
3com 3C905B-TX
Gotek+CF Reader
MSDOS 6.22+Win 3.11/95 OSR2.1/98SE/ME/2000