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Got another rig built!
It was planned a bit diferently than what it is now,but all in all it's a pretty good rig.

Specs:

PSU:Premier LC-B450E PSU
MB:Gigabyte GA-7VT600-L - weird thing,it has a VT8237 chipset but no SATA ports,even though there's space for them. (actually even the outline for them and solder points are there.)
HDD:8GB WDC Protege - originally wanted to go for a 60GB Maxtor,but unfortunately it's on its last legs due to a old and pretty skimpy L&C 300W PSU. Runs very slow,I might try and see if I can fix it but even BIOS says SMART starts failing on it.
CPU:AMD Athlon XP 2500+ - got a 3200+ handy but it won't POST,dunno why. Both this 2500 and the 3200 are the 400MHz FSB versions,the difference only being that the 2500 is brown and the 3200 is green.
GPU:Gecube-ATi Radeon 9550 256MB (R9550GU2-D3H) AGP8x - originally wanted to go for a ASUS Geforce FX5900 128MB but I gave up,because that one has artefacts because of several broken ceramic caps and 2 resistors.
RAM:2x256MB DDR400
ODD:Pioneer DVD-117
Case:no-name case

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Main PC: i5 3470, GB B75M-D3H, 16GB RAM, 2x1TB
98SE : P3 650, Soyo SY-6BA+IV, 384MB RAM, 80GB

Reply 2 of 12, by PcBytes

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saturn wrote:

Looks nice. I'd fix the 5900.

Tried,but same result - artefacts. And the RAM chips are new,and not cracked at all. It's the underside of the RAM chips,where the bunch of SMD resistors are,that has the problem. That,and a 8pin resistor broke off as well,in exactly the same place,more exactly where one of the heatsink plastic pins are.

I'd be happy if I could find a Radeon 9800.

Got some more dead cards as well - a 6600GT and a 7300GS. None give any video output.

"Enter at your own peril, past the bolted door..."
Main PC: i5 3470, GB B75M-D3H, 16GB RAM, 2x1TB
98SE : P3 650, Soyo SY-6BA+IV, 384MB RAM, 80GB

Reply 4 of 12, by Tetrium

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I remember Premier. The very first I ever got was a brand new 300W one I bought very cheaply and the very first thing I noticed was how light it was compared to FSP 300W PSU's.

My old Celeron 400 started out with that PSU and it had all kinds of problems (especially when I tried to network it, it kept on rebooting) which only went away after I replaced the Premier PSU with an older but higher quality one.

Your Gigabyte GA-7VT600-L board might be an OEM one. And besides, the SATA ports of those early VIA chipsets had trouble with SATA2 stuff, so I'm not sure if soldering additional SATA ports would be of any practical use to you.

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Reply 5 of 12, by PcBytes

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saturn wrote:

Ever bake a card?

It's not worth it,because even if I'd bake it,wouldn't make any difference.

As I said,3 resistors and a SMD cap are broken off the board,around one of the RAM chips. The RAM chip itself is fine,it's the 3 resistors and the cap that are gone.

Tetrium wrote:

I remember Premier. The very first I ever got was a brand new 300W one I bought very cheaply and the very first thing I noticed was how light it was compared to FSP 300W PSU's.

My old Celeron 400 started out with that PSU and it had all kinds of problems (especially when I tried to network it, it kept on rebooting) which only went away after I replaced the Premier PSU with an older but higher quality one.

Your Gigabyte GA-7VT600-L board might be an OEM one. And besides, the SATA ports of those early VIA chipsets had trouble with SATA2 stuff, so I'm not sure if soldering additional SATA ports would be of any practical use to you.

Meh,I have problems using this Premier PSU with my GA-6BXC/Pentium 3 500MHz combo but it works flawless with any VIA chipset board and newer stuff like KT600,845E,865PE/G.

As for the motherboard,how would it be OEM? There's no sign of OEM,or else they'd slap their own BIOS logo on. And I never had problems with SATA 2 stuff on early VIA chipsets.

In fact,I used my 1TB drive once with a KT880 board (7VT880-RZ) and it was recognized just fine. Same goes for a P4M800 board I still have (ASRock P4VM800). And for the record,the drive is a Samsung HD103SI drive,which by itself is SATA2.

Last edited by PcBytes on 2015-12-11, 18:42. Edited 1 time in total.

"Enter at your own peril, past the bolted door..."
Main PC: i5 3470, GB B75M-D3H, 16GB RAM, 2x1TB
98SE : P3 650, Soyo SY-6BA+IV, 384MB RAM, 80GB

Reply 6 of 12, by saturn

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PcBytes wrote:
saturn wrote:

Ever bake a card?

It's not worth it,because even if I'd bake it,wouldn't make any difference.

As I said,3 resistors and a SMD cap are broken off the board,around one of the RAM chips. The chip itself is fine,it's the 3 resistors and the cap that are gone.

Can't you replace them?
What about the the 2 cards?

Reply 7 of 12, by PcBytes

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saturn wrote:
PcBytes wrote:
saturn wrote:

Ever bake a card?

It's not worth it,because even if I'd bake it,wouldn't make any difference.

As I said,3 resistors and a SMD cap are broken off the board,around one of the RAM chips. The chip itself is fine,it's the 3 resistors and the cap that are gone.

Can't you replace them?
What about the the 2 cards?

I can't,as they're ridiculously tiny for my soldering iron's tip.

As for the 6600GT and 7300GT...well the 6600GT just won't POST (I had to add the missing caps to it,as I bought it like that for cheap) and the 7300GS is burnt. The bridge chip isn't,the GPU core itself is. Former is by ASUS and the latter (7300GS) is by Leadtek.

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Main PC: i5 3470, GB B75M-D3H, 16GB RAM, 2x1TB
98SE : P3 650, Soyo SY-6BA+IV, 384MB RAM, 80GB

Reply 8 of 12, by HardwareExtreme

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Nice! I recently came across a Athlon XP 2800+ in a Nvidia N2PAP-Lite board at a garage sale. Unfortunately, the second IDE channel was dead. Many T462 AMD boards are crap. Anyways, I hope you sucess with your GeForce. Oh, and try a heat gun, not a soldering iron for really small parts, just be careful because it is easy to damage the board.
And, is your athlon a REEL Barton?

Q: Why didn't Intel call the Pentium the 586?
A: Because they added 486 and 100 on the first Pentium and got 585.999983605.

Source: http://www.columbia.edu/~sss31/rainbow/pentium.jokes.html

Reply 9 of 12, by PcBytes

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HardwareExtreme - Yeah,it's a real 2500+ Barton. The time period most of my Barton CPUs (I have about 5 Bartons so far) come from are quite way before the fakes would pop up. Oh,and all of the Bartons I have are pulls from various dead boards or working boards that I have installed lower CPUs on. (like Athlon 2200+)

As for the Geforce...well I just left it rot. The location is too hard for me to do even with a heat gun - it's exactly under one of the RAM chips.

That,and the Radeon 9600 I've got has much more memory than this FX5900,and it runs even cooler than nVidia. Still gets beaten by the Radeon HD3450 in my S754 Athlon 64 3000+ rig.

Anyways,I sightly upgraded most of the hardware:

MB: MSI K7N2 Delta-L (nForce 2,yay)

CPU: AMD Athlon 2500+ - it's the Barton from the Gigabyte in the OP. I swapped the Bartons (the K7N2 came with a 2500+ Barton as well) between the boards. And yes,I know how I can recognize which is which.

RAM: 256MB DDR400 - enough for the system,and I can only use one stick as for some unknown reason the other two RAM slots won't work at all.

GPU: Gecube R9550GU2-D3H 256MB AGP - 9600 at its finest,and it doesn't even get warm as my old and slow modded FX5200.

HDD: 60GB Maxtor 4D060H3 - this is the drive I said it was giving SMART errors. Apparently,it magically fixed itself after I formatted into FATX (Xbox file system) and then back into NTFS.

PSU: Delux ATX-450W P4

Soundcard:C-Media CMI8738 PCI - black PCB

NIC:chipset provided+2x RTL8139 external

DVD-ROM: Pioneer DVD-117 - I still haven't changed it,even though a friend gave me a HL-DT-ST GSA-4167B that works fine. I kept the Pioneer because it fits the case color 😀

OS: Windows Server 2003 Enterprise - nLite

"Enter at your own peril, past the bolted door..."
Main PC: i5 3470, GB B75M-D3H, 16GB RAM, 2x1TB
98SE : P3 650, Soyo SY-6BA+IV, 384MB RAM, 80GB

Reply 10 of 12, by HardwareExtreme

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Why would you use Server 2003? Is it a server of some sort?

Q: Why didn't Intel call the Pentium the 586?
A: Because they added 486 and 100 on the first Pentium and got 585.999983605.

Source: http://www.columbia.edu/~sss31/rainbow/pentium.jokes.html

Reply 11 of 12, by PcBytes

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HardwareExtreme wrote:

Why would you use Server 2003? Is it a server of some sort?

It's faster than XP on this machine.

"Enter at your own peril, past the bolted door..."
Main PC: i5 3470, GB B75M-D3H, 16GB RAM, 2x1TB
98SE : P3 650, Soyo SY-6BA+IV, 384MB RAM, 80GB