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First post, by ScoutPilot19

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Just for fun and in case of Friday desided to post pictures of ES 1863.11 - 386sx PC that were made around 1993-94 in Minsk, Bellarussia.

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Reply 1 of 10, by keropi

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wow, at first I thought it was just a local brand but now I see that when you say "made in Minsk" you really mean it! nice one!

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Reply 2 of 10, by brassicGamer

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Wow! That's a think of beauty. Check out those translucent ISA slots - never seen anything like it. Everything looks hand-soldered and even the video BIOS originated in Minsk.

Amazing, thanks for sharing.

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Reply 3 of 10, by ScoutPilot19

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brassicGamer wrote:

Everything looks hand-soldered and even the video BIOS originated in Minsk.

Amazing, thanks for sharing.

Yes - it has it's own bios setup - it's possible, for example on that machine to set 8/12/16/33 mhz of CPU SPEED in it)

Reply 4 of 10, by Jo22

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Awesome machine! 😁 Thank you very much for sharing this!
It's not something we do see every day - these translucent ISA slots are beautiful, as someone already said.

The wiring/pcb design reminds me a tiny bit of the Robotron models from eastern Germany (A7150/EC1834, link/link),
but they weren't as nearly as up-to-date.. Just out of curiosity, are you running "normal" MS-DOS, like 6.2 or something more exotic
(Альфа-ДОС/Alpha DOS, DCP, PTS-DOS, or DOS 4.01 with the russian nag screen) ?

Silly question, I know. 😅 My knowledge about eastern computers is quite limited (Japan stuff aside), though.
A few of my older computer magazines (some from the mid80s) mentioned several eastern DOS systems,
so I guess DOS was quite popular there (just think of the original Tetris).
Well, at least more popular than Macintosh systems or Amigas.. 😉

Anyway, I'm honest when I say that this machine is nicely built! It looks like it was made to last forever.
I had no idea that such craftsmanship was still alive in '94; someone could think that mainboards
from Taiwan where already all over the place by then.

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Reply 5 of 10, by ScoutPilot19

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Jo22 wrote:

Just out of curiosity, are you running "normal" MS-DOS, like 6.2 or something more exotic
(Альфа-ДОС/Alpha DOS, DCP, PTS-DOS, or DOS 4.01 with the russian nag screen) ?

Silly question, I know. 😅 .

Thanks for an interest to my post ) 😊

Here's a site of my friend from St.Petersbourg about Soviet/Eastern Block digital devices

- http://www.leningrad.su/museum/main.php?lang=0

As you can see, there were some x-86 machines, most of them can run normal MS-DOS 6.22, but "then" were commonly used with "other DOS'es". For myself I have Robotron ES1834 which came with an ST-225 MFM HD, with common M$ DOS 6.22 insalled, although originally there was special DOS version by Robotron. This machine is not brought to fully working condition yet, so I cannot post it here now...( Maybe in Spring I'll restore it)

And that exactly that machine - ES1863.11 - I'just installed common IDE HDD about 300-400 mbs using Ontrack Disk Manager 7.0 and put MS-DOS 6.22 on it - As I do with all my X-86 DOS pc's from IBM 5150 to Pentiums). May be I'm lazy, maybe I just do not see a reason to try other versions of DOS on a PC-compatible)))...

And about Tetris - it was written by A.Pajitnov on Soviet PDP-11 Compatibles, like DVK or Elektronika... Here's a picture of a DVK3m with it on screen (at the left, on the left - home PDP11 compatible - BK11m)

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Reply 7 of 10, by 386_junkie

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This is quite tremendous! I don't normally fuss too much over 16-bit 386 systems but this one is that bit more special. Thanks for sharing.

btw... what is the game on screen? I recognise it.

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Reply 8 of 10, by Jo22

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386_junkie wrote:

[..] I don't normally fuss too much over 16-bit 386 systems [..]

Understandable, they where even slower than 286 machines at times.
But on the positive side, they usually had intelligent (286-)chipsets or a very small board design. ^^

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btw... what is the game on screen? I recognise it.

Loom ? Sorry, not sure, but that game also had a prison room..

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