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DosFreak All System Specs 10-25-2022

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Reply 40 of 60, by DosFreak

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Broke my $800 rule for video cards and bought the SAPPHIRE NITRO Radeon RX 7900 XTX 24GB GDDR6 PCI Express 4.0 x16 ATX Video Card 11322-01-40G for my main desktop so I can finally put my living room PC in the living room.
Desktop has been without a graphics card for months, the 4090 is too expensive and the 4080 is a bad buy.

Haven't bought a AMD card since the "GIGABYTE GV-R587D5-1GD-B Radeon HD 5870 (Cypress XT) 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFire Supported Video Card w/ATI Eyefinity" in 2009. If/when AMD disappoints me this time I'll add them to my 5yr shit list like I usually do for companies that disappoint me.
So for I've installed the drivers and immediately had a .dll error so I couldn't launch their control panel so I had to copy the .dll out of the setup and paste it in C:\windows\system32\drivers Hey, at least it didn't prevent me from booting....

Can play Witcher 3 at 120fps at 3840x1600 with everything maxed except for RT turned off. With RT turned on FPS are halved but it's around the 60fps mark.

/EDIT Why do driver versions have to be so complicated "AMD Software: Adrenalin Edition 23.3.2 Driver Version 22.40.43.01 for Windows® 10 and Windows® 11 (Windows Driver Store Version 31.0.14043.1000)."
Which driver version is it? I see three.

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Reply 42 of 60, by DosFreak

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So I've spent all weekend and today putting ESX on my server, moving my bhyve VMs from TrueNAS to ESX, setting up ESX to boot TrueNAS via passthrough of my SATA controllers and NVME SSDs.
I've also today added a 3060 GPU, removed my Asus Hyper PCIE 4.0 and replaced it with a cheapo PCIE 3 card (Asus was too long).

I have now consolidated all game launchers and VMs to one server. The one launcher preventing this was GOG galaxy which would only work on a desktop. It would not work in bhyve, does not work with RDP, TightVNC wouldn't work with GOG galaxy in bhyve, you can't store the games on a network share etc etc. I finally verified that GOG galaxy running in a VM in Vmware ESxi works just fine using vsphere (not RDP). I've also moved my macOS vm within my Windows 11 VM and am using Vmware Workstation within the Windows 11 VM to load the macOS VM. (I'm not going to modify ESXi to run macOS since it won't be longer before there is no x86 support at all with macOS).

The final piece was the 3060 GPU. Ever since I moved all game launchers off my desktop PC to VMs the shitty CEF game launchers like Epic require a GPU so I've had to allocate 8 CPUs to a VM to get Epic to barely work. Well after putting this 3060, enabling passthrough and RDP into the Windows 11 VM the Epic launcher is actually using the GPU. It's still shit but it's as shitty as it runs on the desktop so that's progress and the other launchers can use the GPU as well.

Final piece will be to backup the ESX configs and VM images and then after testing this GPU out via RDP onward to more game testing which now that this thing is using ESX instead of bhyve I may be able to do more testing much more easily.

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Reply 43 of 60, by DosFreak

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Broke down and bought 10x 22TB IronWolf Pro drives today.
Finally down to 1TB free on my server (was down to 700GB until I did some GOGrepo cleanup) with 13x 16TB drives so I held out as long as I could just wish there were larger drives available.....with how my luck goes they'll be out when all my drives are done rebuilding.
This should give me about 60TB to play with so may be able to move the games from my GOG dataset (iscsi) to my other iscsi dataset on my platter drives for a total of 10TB of online games that require downloading to a "local" disk instead of to a network share like steam.
May also be able to enable snapshots as well.

Last edited by DosFreak on 2023-09-10, 18:22. Edited 1 time in total.

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Reply 44 of 60, by H3nrik V!

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Holy smoke, what do you use all that storage for? (Please don't say pr0n) 🤣

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Reply 45 of 60, by DosFreak

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Absolutely no pron, didn't see the point. 😉

So I've been backing up all of my files since 1990 and have never lost anything.

Currently:
Media 87TB (still have a lot of blu-rays and DVDs I haven't copied over)
10TB iSCSI volume(s) for online game sync (I download and update all games in a VM and then copy to my gaming PC which has no launchers, was finally able to get rid of the shitty GOG Galaxy client by switching to ESX and using the web client)
Roughly 43TB Dedupe (Games) (Might be 25+TB higher without dedupe)
21 TB Files and games of which there are no dupes

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Reply 46 of 60, by H3nrik V!

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Wow, that's massive, cool with a never ending backup ... Wonder how many of my old DVDRs are still readable 🤣

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Reply 47 of 60, by DosFreak

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For those interested it looks like it is taking roughly 3 days to resilver each drive. so 3 days x 12 drives (one is already 22tb) = 36 days. Those other drives sure are going to get a workout heh.

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Reply 48 of 60, by pentiumspeed

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DosFreak wrote on 2023-09-16, 17:58:

For those interested it looks like it is taking roughly 3 days to resilver each drive. so 3 days x 12 drives (one is already 22tb) = 36 days. Those other drives sure are going to get a workout heh.

What the reasons to use VM to play with games? This sounds extra work to do? Then put that too on a server? Not on your gaming PC?

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Reply 49 of 60, by DosFreak

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I only play games that are DRM free or that I can crack as such I can't trust that they don't require a launcher unless I try to run them on a computer without a launcher. It makes more sense that my gaming PC doesn't have any launchers that way it enforces that and no games sneak past.
Also these games are updating all the time, I tend to restrict them to updating once a month so it's easier to track changes (since I backup previous versions) and I don't what to leave my gaming computer online while downloading. It's best to centralize the downloading to my server which then downloads them directly to the server instead of downloading to my gaming PC and then uploading them back to the server (what I used to do). The other benefits are that the server uses ECC memory and ZFS for the filesystem (except for the VM where all launcher except Steam (Steam downloads directly to a share on the servers) download to which is NTFS).

Another benefit is it prevents data collection by the launchers, they can only collect data from the VM. Of course they can still collect telemetry from the games themselves since I haven't yet bothered to restrict which programs can use port 80 or 443 outbound.

I don't use the VM used to download games to play games, I use other VMs for those but mainly my gaming is done directly on my gaming PC.

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Reply 50 of 60, by DosFreak

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Specs from an old post back in 2002 on another forum
1990-94

Packard Bell 286-12mhz (parents)

Mobo: Unknown

Memory: 1meg

Video: 256k

HD: 40m

OS: MSDOS 4.0-6.22

Modem: 2400b

95-98

486DX4/100 (parents)

Mobo: ?? Gonna have to go look

Memory: 12mb starting-32mb

Video: Cirrus Logic 2mb!

HD: 540mb Seagate, 850mb Maxtor

OS: DOS 6.22-Windows 95-95b-98-98SE-NT4

Modem: 14.4-33.6

99-2000

K63-400

Mobo:Soyo SY5EMA+

Memory: 128mb

Video: TNT1-G400

HD: 20gb Maxtor

OS: 98SE/NT4/Windows 2000

2000-2001

P3-550

Mobo:Abit BE6

Memory: 256mb

Video: G400-Geforce 2 GTS

HD: Forgot what I had at the time. Probly 20gb Maxtor

OS: Windows 2000

2001-2002

Dual P31ghz

Mobo:Abit VP6

Memory: 512mb

Video: Geforce 2 GTS-Geforce 3

HD: Couple a 40gb IBM'S/60GB

OS: Windows 2000

XP 2000+

Memory: 512mb

Video: Geforce 3 Ti500

HD: 60gb/80gb's

OS: Windows 2000/XP/98SE/NT4

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Reply 53 of 60, by DosFreak

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Okay removed a 3.5" drive tray from the 5950x pc and was able to fit the 3060 in there so Windows 7,8 are back on.
Just need to order a IPMI card from asrock rack so I don't have to disable the console in proxmox.

For the i7 that means just 2000 (BWC),XP, vista (although it can run higher if needed).
I may or may not be able to fit another Pcie video card for <2000. The HD5450 will work for vanilla 2k but not for less than. If I do it will obstruct the fans on the 980ti so I'm kind of meh on the idea.
Not that big of a deal anyway since we have pcem.

I'm thinking for <2000 a egpu may be the key unless I setup another computer which I don't want to do.
Likely best to way until oculink egpus are more prevalent or TB5 instead of throwing away money on TB3 even though TB3 is more than enough for this use case it doesn't hurt to have the bandwidth for the future.

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Reply 54 of 60, by DosFreak

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Swapped out the 980 Ti in the i7 machine with:
Video: GT X 780
Video: Quadro FX 1300

This should allow 9x/NT4/2000 vanilla compatibility with proxmox which has yet to be tested.

There may be a way to use the 980ti in my 5950x machine and then possibly room for an x-fi if I get a egpu for the 7900xtx but waiting to see how TB5 plays out.
A better possibility may be the 1080ti in the 5950x machine which means vista+ for 5950x and <= XP for the i7 machine but putting as many OS on one machine increases longevity and ease of use so 980ti it will likely be.

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Reply 55 of 60, by DosFreak

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For this system in the first post:

PROXMOX Test 9x/NT4/2000/XP/Vista (Also 7+)
Removed the x-fi (freezing proxmox when using passthrough, this is likely fixable with a switch but it's a waste of a PCIE slot for one audio card for one OS) and kept the Audigy RX in the system. This should be good for 9x-2003. Using onboard for Vista+. For DOS will likely need to use SBEMU unless you can somehow pass the sound from the emulated SB16 to the host in proxmox.
Swapped out FX1300 for 8800GT. Can't get the FX1300 working with proxmox. 8800GT is for Vanilla 2k. 9870 TI is for 2k BWC/XP+.

Bought a PCIE to PCI adapter for either my Geforce 4 MX for Geforce FX 5200. I despise 9x so plan would be for real world use to only play what I have to play on this shit family of OS so either of those should be sufficient. Here's to hoping those cards work in passthrough....well work at all actually heh. So if works then good enough for testing xdelta diffed files for removing DRM and playing games that do not work or do not work well on newer operating systems.

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Reply 56 of 60, by DosFreak

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Added the PCIe to PCI adapter with a Geforce FX 5200 128MB (replaced heatsink and fan with one from a Geforce 4 MX 420). Added to 2000 VM and booted without issue.
1999 OS with a 2003 video card on a 2016 motherboard in 2024. Woohoo.

Windows 2000 driver being used is 5/16/2008 6.14.11.7519 which is apparently v175.19. Unknown how well it works but the desktop loads.
This driver doesn't work with DX7 installed but does with DX9. Passed the dxdiag tests.

Going to let the OGL 3D maze run for awhile. Don't trust anything heavier right now.

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Reply 57 of 60, by DosFreak

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Added "GPU: EGPV-1101-C1 M.2 (Proxmox Console)" to my 5950x so I could remove my IPMI card to gain another slot.
Added X550-T2 NIC.

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Reply 58 of 60, by DosFreak

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So my main desktop shut down and wouldn't power on until I unplugged for 30 seconds....and then powered down again and again and again.
Took the SF750 out of a EGPU case and replaced it and powered right up and hasn't shut down since.

Last PSU failure was an evga in 2019 so not too bad I guess but disappointing since I bought this PSU in Aug 2022 (I think it came out in 2019) and all it does is power a 5950x and a 4080. No overclocking.
PC is on 24/7 so that may be another factor.

Ideally I'd use power management but every damn time I enable power management things go screwy and when I program to power off after x hours inevitably that's when I'll have something running. sigh.

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Reply 59 of 60, by DosFreak

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"Finalized" my hardware config for Proxmox for testing of games.
The 5950x machine will be pretty left alone as far as hardware changes.
The i7 parts can be swapped out for older OS compatibility if needed but likely not.

PROXMOX TEST 2000/XP/Vista/7/8/10/11/Linux

CPU: Ryzen 9 5950x
CPU Cooler: Corsair iCUE H150i w/ 3x Noctua NF-A12x25 PWM chromax
Motherboard: MSI Meg X570 Unify
NIC: Intel Ethernet Converged Network Adapter X550-T2 (10GB)
Memory: G.Skill 32GB DDR4 PC4-28800 3600MHz Ripjaws V for Intel CL16 (16-19-19-39) Dual Channel kit (2x16GB)
GPU: 8800GT 512MB (2000 Vanilla)
EGPU: Zotac Geforce GTX 980 Ti 6GB AMP! Extreme GDDR5 ZT-90507-10B PCIe (Windows XP,Vista)
EGPU: GIGABYTE Gaming OC GeForce RTX 3080 10GB GDDR6X PCI Express 4.0 ATX Video Card GV-N3080GAMING OC-10GD (rev. 2.0) (7+)
Video card: EGPV-1101-C1 M.2 (Proxmox Console)
Audio: Realtek® ALC1220 (Vista+)
Audio: Creative Sound Blaster Audigy PCIe RX 7.1 (2000/XP)
Monitor 1: Acer XB271HU 27" 2560x1440 "Acer Predator XB1"
DVD: Blu-ray LG WH16NS60
SSD: Seagate FireCuda 530 1TB
SSD: Seagate FireCuda 530 4TB
PSU: CORSAIR RMx Series, RM1000x, 1000 Watt, 80+ Gold Certified, Fully Modular Power Supply
Case: Corsair 600C Black ATX Full Tower Computer Case w/ 3x Noctua NF-A14 PWM chromax

EGPU 980TI
Cable: ONE XPLAYER OCuLink Cable for OneXGPU eGPU, SFF8611, 3.3ft Long, PCIe 4.0 x4
Adapter: NFHK 4X Oculink SFF-8612 SFF-8611 to PCIE PCI-Express 16x Adapter with ATX 24pin
Case: Fractal Design Ridge Black - PCIe 4.0 Riser Card Included - 2X 140mm PWM Aspect Fans Included - Type C USB - m-ITX
PSU: Corsair SF Series, SF750, 750 Watt, SFX, 80+ Platinum Certified, Fully Modular Power Supply (CP-9020186-NA)
Occulink card: PCIe x4 Gen4 with ReDriver to OCulink 4i Host Bus Adapter

EGPU 3080
Cable: ONE XPLAYER OCuLink Cable for OneXGPU eGPU, SFF8611, 3.3ft Long, PCIe 4.0 x4
Adapter: NFHK 4X Oculink SFF-8612 SFF-8611 to PCIE PCI-Express 16x Adapter with ATX 24pin
Case: Fractal Design Ridge Black - PCIe 4.0 Riser Card Included - 2X 140mm PWM Aspect Fans Included - Type C USB - m-ITX
PSU: SilverStone SX1000 1000W SFX-L:
Occulink card: PCIe x4 Gen4 with ReDriver to OCulink 4i Host Bus Adapter
PROXMOX Test DOS\9x (VESA)/NT4 (VESA)/2000 (XP+ Backup)

Processor: Intel Core i7 6700k
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-U9S w/2 Noctua A9 92mm fans
Motherboard: ASUS PRIME Z270-A
Memory: Patriot Viper 4 32GB (4 x 8GB)
NIC: Intel X540-T1 10GB
SSD: Seagate Firecuda 530 1TB (Proxmox)
SSD: Seagate Firecuda 530 2TB (Proxmox VMs)
PSU: Corsair RM850x
Audio: Creative Sound Blaster Audigy PCIe RX 7.1 (9x/2000/XP)
Monitor: Dell Ultrasharp U2410F 24" 1920x1200
GPU : Geforce GTX 780 (2000 BWC/XP+)
GPU: Geforce FX 5200 128mb (9x-NT) (2k-xp for games that need it)
Case: CoolerMaster ATC-110 w/ 4x Noctua NF-A8 PWM fans
Amebay 5.25 Inch Front Panel USB Hub 2port 3.0, USB 2.0 for Computer Case
DVD: Blu-ray LG UH12LS28

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