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Pentium 133 DOS gamer dream machine (1995/97 ).

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Reply 60 of 64, by Intel486dx33

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brostenen wrote on 2021-04-29, 23:01:
Intel486dx33 wrote on 2021-04-29, 21:28:
I have to say that “If you want a good DOS computer that can run at 386 and 486 speeds and maybe even 286 speeds” this is the CP […]
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I have to say that “If you want a good DOS computer that can run at 386 and 486 speeds and maybe even 286 speeds” this is the CPU you want. Allows you to play old DOS games and modern DOS games in good performance.
Also it’s NOT expensive to build.
If I could only have just one DOS computer this would definitely be on my list.

1st gen. Socket 7 , Pentium MMX.

No. Then you need a K6-III+
That have been proven to be the best platform for fine tuning speed to match 286, 386, 486 and Pentium speed's.

Well, I would use the AMD K6 for DOS/Win98 and not DOS/Win3x
The AGP Voodoo card works best with Win98.

Reply 61 of 64, by brostenen

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Intel486dx33 wrote on 2021-04-29, 23:50:
brostenen wrote on 2021-04-29, 23:01:
Intel486dx33 wrote on 2021-04-29, 21:28:
I have to say that “If you want a good DOS computer that can run at 386 and 486 speeds and maybe even 286 speeds” this is the CP […]
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I have to say that “If you want a good DOS computer that can run at 386 and 486 speeds and maybe even 286 speeds” this is the CPU you want. Allows you to play old DOS games and modern DOS games in good performance.
Also it’s NOT expensive to build.
If I could only have just one DOS computer this would definitely be on my list.

1st gen. Socket 7 , Pentium MMX.

No. Then you need a K6-III+
That have been proven to be the best platform for fine tuning speed to match 286, 386, 486 and Pentium speed's.

Well, I would use the AMD K6 for DOS/Win98 and not DOS/Win3x
The AGP Voodoo card works best with Win98.

Win9x is not good for 286/386/486/Pentium "simulated" speed for Dos games. And Voodoo is not the best in regards to Dos compatibility.

In the case of an full spektrum Dos era gaming rig this way, you need that K6-III+ and then one of the 3 following cards: CL-5446, S3-Virge325 or S3-Trio64v+. Then have MS Dos 6.22 and that setmui (or what it is called) CPU throtteling software.

K6-III+ and Win9x plus Voodoo is a perfect solution for late era Dos games and early era Win9x games instead.

Late era Win9x gaming, then K6-III is simply too weak. In that case you need something beefier.

Don't eat stuff off a 15 year old never cleaned cpu cooler.
Those cakes make you sick....

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Reply 62 of 64, by gdjacobs

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brostenen wrote on 2021-04-29, 23:01:
Intel486dx33 wrote on 2021-04-29, 21:28:
I have to say that “If you want a good DOS computer that can run at 386 and 486 speeds and maybe even 286 speeds” this is the CP […]
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I have to say that “If you want a good DOS computer that can run at 386 and 486 speeds and maybe even 286 speeds” this is the CPU you want. Allows you to play old DOS games and modern DOS games in good performance.
Also it’s NOT expensive to build.
If I could only have just one DOS computer this would definitely be on my list.

1st gen. Socket 7 , Pentium MMX.

No. Then you need a K6-III+
That have been proven to be the best platform for fine tuning speed to match 286, 386, 486 and Pentium speed's.

I'm glad when people are happy with their project, but...

Either a K6-x+ or a PMMX would be great in this same build. I tried a P54 Pentium some time ago and found it lacks flexibility in comparison. Between changing clocks, changing TR parameters, and manipulating board cache, the performance between L1 cache enabled and disabled had a wide gap between two relatively narrow performance bands. The P55 core didn't have a gap in this region -- it scaled smoothly between 386DX-25 territory and full performance.

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Reply 63 of 64, by brostenen

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gdjacobs wrote on 2021-04-30, 20:27:
brostenen wrote on 2021-04-29, 23:01:
Intel486dx33 wrote on 2021-04-29, 21:28:
I have to say that “If you want a good DOS computer that can run at 386 and 486 speeds and maybe even 286 speeds” this is the CP […]
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I have to say that “If you want a good DOS computer that can run at 386 and 486 speeds and maybe even 286 speeds” this is the CPU you want. Allows you to play old DOS games and modern DOS games in good performance.
Also it’s NOT expensive to build.
If I could only have just one DOS computer this would definitely be on my list.

1st gen. Socket 7 , Pentium MMX.

No. Then you need a K6-III+
That have been proven to be the best platform for fine tuning speed to match 286, 386, 486 and Pentium speed's.

I'm glad when people are happy with their project, but...

Either a K6-x+ or a PMMX would be great in this same build. I tried a P54 Pentium some time ago and found it lacks flexibility in comparison. Between changing clocks, changing TR parameters, and manipulating board cache, the performance between L1 cache enabled and disabled had a wide gap between two relatively narrow performance bands. The P55 core didn't have a gap in this region -- it scaled smoothly between 386DX-25 territory and full performance.

True... The P55 scales perfect within what it can do. However K6-III+ gives wider performance spectrum. It is like the P55 and then some more, when running full speed. Basically both can do, if you wish to go pre-pentium and Pentium. However for high res Pentium era Dos gaming. Well... Then the K6-III+ is a better choice. In other words, high performance Dos, then the K6-III+ beats the Pentum.

Don't eat stuff off a 15 year old never cleaned cpu cooler.
Those cakes make you sick....

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Reply 64 of 64, by gdjacobs

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brostenen wrote on 2021-04-30, 22:02:

True... The P55 scales perfect within what it can do. However K6-III+ gives wider performance spectrum. It is like the P55 and then some more, when running full speed. Basically both can do, if you wish to go pre-pentium and Pentium. However for high res Pentium era Dos gaming. Well... Then the K6-III+ is a better choice. In other words, high performance Dos, then the K6-III+ beats the Pentum.

Oh, I agree. I've played around with an Ezra based solution for an even wider performance envelope. Ultimately, though, I really like running the few highly demanding DOS titles on a top end 98 machine. Bonus points if it can be downclocked for the few clock sensitive Windows titles. A number of solutions exist for doing this.

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