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First post, by fromage

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Hello, I've been fiddling with my system for a few years now - replacing parts and re-installing Windows - and I finally think it's worth sharing.
It runs Windows 98 SE, and I use it to play mid-late 90's software. The hardware is an amalgamation of what I've seen other Vogons posters recommend.

My build as of this post:

  • Intel SE440BX-2 motherboard
  • Pentium III SL5QV (1ghz) + MSI 6905 Master Slot 1/Socket 370 adapter
  • 120gb Western Digital Caviar SE
  • 512mb Micron RAM
  • Leadtek WinFast GeForce 4 Ti 4200
  • Sound Blaster Audigy 2 ZS
  • 3Com 3C905B-TX network card
  • Belkin USB 2.0 PCI Adapter
  • Plextor PX-W1210TA CD drive
  • Teac FD-235HF floppy drive
  • AOpen ATX-300GU power supply

1ghz S370 P3's were much easier to find than 1ghz Slot 1's, so I have an SL5QV plugged into a Slot 1 adapter, with a Startech copper heatsink sitting on top of it.

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The Ti 4200 has VGA+DVI output, which is very convenient because I can hook up the VGA to a monitor and the DVI to a capture box.

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My current Windows installation has been very stable 🤞. I installed the Shutdown Supplement patches (4756US8 and Q246817) immediately, and that's it other than drivers.
There are USB ports hidden in the front bezel, but there are no USB headers on the motherboard, so it's good that they're hidden.
Also, FYI to anybody cleaning their stuff, be careful with isopropyl alcohol - I rubbed a patch of cheap paint right off the bezel and spent an hour blending out the color. I think it looks pretty good now, but only because I covered the really bad spots up with stickers.

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Yes, that's the Internet Explorer icon embossed on the side of the case. Even better, the manufacturer used the same plate for both sides, so on the opposite side, the IE icon is upside down. 😁Fantastic!

Reply 2 of 9, by Joseph_Joestar

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That's a very well thought out build. Powerful enough to comfortably run any Win9x game and possibly even some early WinXP titles. Also, very stable and compatible.

I particularly like your GPU choice. Leadtek made some excellent GeForce cards back in the day. I had a WinFast Titanium 200 T (GeForce3 Ti 200) around 2002. Great build quality.

PC#1: Pentium MMX 166 / Soyo SY-5BT / S3 VirgeDX / Voodoo1 / OPTi 82C930 / AWE64
PC#2: Celeron 466 / Abit ZM6 / Voodoo3 / AWE64 / YMF744 / SC-155
PC#3: AthlonXP 1700+ / Abit KT7A / GeForce4 / SBLive / ALS100
PC#4: Athlon64 3700+ / DFI LanParty / 9600GT / X-Fi Titanium

Reply 3 of 9, by britain4

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I had that very same case back in the day - remember the random IE logo - a very well specced build!

- AMD K6-II 400MHZ, PCChips M598LMR, Voodoo
- P-MMX 233MHz, FIC PA2013, S3 ViRGE + Voodoo
- PII 400MHz, MSI MS6119, ATI Rage Pro Turbo + Voodoo2 SLI
- PIII 933MHz, ECS P6IPAT, Voodoo5 5500
- Toshiba Libretto 110CT, 300MHz, 96MB RAM

Reply 4 of 9, by Jo22

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Cool build! 😎

But if you're planning to go online with this bad boy,
please consider using a dedicated firewall.
An old DSL router or a spare Raspberry Pi with PiHole software is a possibility.
They allow blocking unnecessary ports, too. 😃

I know, it's annoying. But I've had a bad experience with 98SE and the net in the late 2000s.

Recent malware infected a PC of a f(r)iend, despite Avira Antivir 8/9 and Kerio Personal Firewall.
Since then, I feel I've got to warn people. The network security in Win 9x is very bad.
The encryption strength in IE 5.x is weak, too (merely 40bit).

That being said, surfing the web from time to time is okay.
If the PC isn't unattended for long and not secretly becomming part of a bot net, it's tolerable, I guess. 😉

"Time, it seems, doesn't flow. For some it's fast, for some it's slow.
In what to one race is no time at all, another race can rise and fall..." - The Minstrel

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Reply 5 of 9, by dormcat

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Wow that's an excellent build, combining some best components for Win9x games. 😀

Like Jo22 said, if I were you I wouldn't browse the web with this machine; hook it up to a secure intranet or just use USB to transfer files.

Reply 7 of 9, by chinny22

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Ha, I understand the confusion but also get what OP meant with the title 😀
It's called the Internet Explorer build because the IE logo on the side panel, not because of some sadistic desire to surf the web with an ancient version of IE!

Love the backwards e, that's a sign of quality! 🤣
Love the build but I am biased as have almost the exact same build.
I can brag and say I got a Ti4600 and a Slot 1 Ghz, but I did build mine almost 10 years ago when prices were not so bad. If I was doing again today I'd do the same as you.
You win with a true Intel M/B vs my Dell version and Plextor CD drive.
I'm still on the lookout for a beige I/O panel for the Audigy 2 ZS. They do exist but rare.
No ISA soundcard?

Reply 8 of 9, by H3nrik V!

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fromage wrote on 2021-07-17, 04:38:

Yes, that's the Internet Explorer icon embossed on the side of the case. Even better, the manufacturer used the same plate for both sides, so on the opposite side, the IE icon is upside down. 😁Fantastic!

Picture or it didn't happen! 🤣

Please use the "quote" option if asking questions to what I write - it will really up the chances of me noticing 😀

Reply 9 of 9, by PcBytes

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I have two of those "Internet Explorer" cases, made by JNC/ANS, two well-known Deer subsidiaries in the Eastern Europe.
Usually came with craptacular PSUs that, more often than not, loved to go kaboom.

Main PC: i5 3470, GB B75M-D3H, 16GB RAM, 2x1TB
98SE : P3 650, Soyo SY-6BA+IV, 384MB RAM, 80GB
Milennium : P2 266, Zida LX-98AT, 256MB RAM, 10GB+20GB
2k: Duron 750, Totem TM-S730LMR, 256MB RAM, 40GB