IIRC, DosBox assigns 16mb by default for both EMS/XMS. It's MEMSIZE= under dosbox.conf. It's possible that the game doesn't like this much memory...so modify it to 4mb or somesuch.

DosFreak wrote:

IIRC, DosBox assigns 16mb by default for both EMS/XMS. It's MEMSIZE= under dosbox.conf. It's possible that the game doesn't like this much memory...so modify it to 4mb or somesuch.

well thank you for explaining that, its a little hard to understand but thats ok. Unfortunetly this did not solve my problem. Ill continue to fidle around with the settings untill i find something that works, maybe you have some sujestions? (the same error is occuring (need 2.81 of XMS)

edit: what is HMA. could it have anything to do with this?

Are you sure xms=true is set properly inside dosbox.conf?

*** Moving to DOSBox General, by the way... ***

eL_PuSHeR wrote:

Are you sure xms=true is set properly inside dosbox.conf?

hheeeeeeeeyyyy >:\

it is on, sheash... As ive said ive looked through the config file, ive done alot of reading and im still no closer to solving this problem, turns out everything was set correctly and the game still dosn't run! Says it needs 2.81 of XMS and it had plenty and i know that the game should be capable of running because i can get it to do so with command prompt only CMD dosn't support any sound which is an element of the game, in adition its a little finiky. Would you like a copy of this game to try and get it to run? You may have alot more luck then me 😀

What is the output if you type "mem" in DOSBox?

Kippesoep wrote:

What is the output if you type "mem" in DOSBox?

clearly this forum has had many an annoying noob eh? 😜
edit to be clear: many an anoying noob asking for help

theres enough.
"
636 Kb free conventional memory (actuly this may be causing it as well. how i increase this?)
9152 Kb free extended memory
9152 Kb free expanded memory
"

these are my current settings but im still playing around with them

edit2: oh ive got a question, does dos box install any registry files? Im trying to set this game up so that its simple to start and use for my friends, I wanna create a simple package that will let my friends simply start dosbox and BAM be playing circa 7000 (gota get me an email game going baby 😁) Does dosbox have registry entrys?

Your original post already proved you did more than the average noob. The output from "mem" proves that XMS is enabled and that there is enough of it. If it still doesn't run, there's either a bug in the game or in DOSBox somewhere. (Or the combination)

636 K free conventional is more than you ever get in real DOS, so that shouldn't be a problem (unless it's actually too much for the game). In that case, you could try running "loadfix" (inside DOSBox) to use up some memory before starting the game.

Have you tried disabling EMS, which probably won't help, but is worth trying anyway?

And no, DOSBox doesn't use registry entries.

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Your original post already proved you did more than the average noob. The output from "mem" proves that XMS is enabled and that there is enough of it. If it still doesn't run, there's either a bug in the game or in DOSBox somewhere. (Or the combination)

636 K free conventional is more than you ever get in real DOS, so that shouldn't be a problem (unless it's actually too much for the game). In that case, you could try running "loadfix" (inside DOSBox) to use up some memory before starting the game.

Have you tried disabling EMS, which probably won't help, but is worth trying anyway?

And no, DOSBox doesn't use registry entries.

yes ive tried seting EMS to false, no effect. Im considering seting up a simple pif file with the proper adjustments to do it and sound be damned but i really dont want to <:\

Did you do the "loadfix" as well?

Kippesoep wrote:

Did you do the "loadfix" as well?

yes that was one of the first things i tried to do to get C7 running.

i could set CMD prompt with almost all my memory and c7 still wouldnt have trouble, My (loose) educated guess is that it simply dosnt see any XMS when its been run, its old, its not THAT old.

It's a bug in DOSBox. Easy enough to fix. Patch attached and submitted to SourceForge.

ah don't touch bl if it fails.

If it fails, BL should have the error code. According to the specs:

1In:
2  AH=0Eh, DX=handle
3Out:
4  Success: AX=0001h, BH=lockcount, BL=numfree, DX=size
5  Fail: AX=0000h, BL=errorcode

ah yes. just read it to fast.
It's late 😜

Shouldn't more calls follow this way ?
Not that many calls actually(officially) change bl while dosbox changes it always.

I is confused... um <.<
I tell you what, you guys have a nice chat, ill be waiting for the next version of dosbox so i can play C7 with SOUND!

Have FUN!

Himem.sys returns for most functions bl=0 on success,
which seems to be undocumented. But some functions modify
bl, so if the function works ok bl does NOT contain the
return code (as in functions 0x0c and 0x0e).
So imho the rest shouldn't be changed.