mtest001 wrote on 2024-04-15, 22:18:

Yes it is the 3 x 120 degrees thingy. I am in Switzerland.

Well, finally dug out the one I thought I had, it's for the later LTE, but I have not seen a good voltage out of it yet. Apparently it's really common for the capacitors to go out and there are repair vids on youtube. There seem to be some around at reasonable prices if you look up by part number.

gerry wrote on 2024-04-11, 16:19:

can you tell us if you found out more about that 'myotest scope' from omszov? looks interesting

It's a pulse massage machine used for the treatment of chronic pain with multiple waveform modes. It outputs 220VDC on the coaxial ports so I decided not to put the electrodes directly on my heart. 🤣
I have a roadside find instead, a standard slot1 IBM 300PL with lots of dirt and a Deschutes 400.

Those are solid machines as long as you like them as they are, pain in the arse to upgrade.

The myotest thing sounds a bit like an early version of a TENS unit or a "Dr Ho" device.

Mandrew wrote on 2024-04-18, 16:32:

gerry wrote on 2024-04-11, 16:19:

can you tell us if you found out more about that 'myotest scope' from omszov? looks interesting

It's a pulse massage machine used for the treatment of chronic pain with multiple waveform modes. It outputs 220VDC on the coaxial ports so I decided not to put the electrodes directly on my heart. 🤣
I have a roadside find instead, a standard slot1 IBM 300PL with lots of dirt and a Deschutes 400.

seeing that sticker designed for windows 95 and NT wow two different worlds, maybe you could dual boot if it still works

Mandrew wrote on 2024-04-18, 16:32:

I have a roadside find instead, a standard slot1 IBM 300PL with lots of dirt and a Deschutes 400.

Man... those take me back. Very common machines when I was in middle and high school. 😀

Mandrew wrote on 2024-04-18, 16:32:

I have a roadside find instead, a standard slot1 IBM 300PL with lots of dirt and a Deschutes 400.

And apparently som cool ABIT card 😁 Graphics?

"Roadside find" as in literally just dumped outside? Why doesn't that happen to me?`

twiz11 wrote on 2024-04-19, 00:43:

seeing that sticker designed for windows 95 and NT wow two different worlds, maybe you could dual boot if it still works

Probably wasn't dual boot when new, but to be able to fit into multiple user segments?

Mandrew wrote on 2024-04-18, 16:32:

gerry wrote on 2024-04-11, 16:19:

can you tell us if you found out more about that 'myotest scope' from omszov? looks interesting

It's a pulse massage machine used for the treatment of chronic pain with multiple waveform modes. It outputs 220VDC on the coaxial ports so I decided not to put the electrodes directly on my heart. 🤣
I have a roadside find instead, a standard slot1 IBM 300PL with lots of dirt and a Deschutes 400.

thanks! yes i think i wouldn't even switch the pulse machine on! 😀

nice roadside find too, looks good for being out 'in the wild'

H3nrik V! wrote on 2024-04-19, 05:45:

twiz11 wrote on 2024-04-19, 00:43:

seeing that sticker designed for windows 95 and NT wow two different worlds, maybe you could dual boot if it still works

Probably wasn't dual boot when new, but to be able to fit into multiple user segments?

Thats right, this was very typical for business class machines. In our case pre XP we standardised on 98 for desktops connecting to 2k server
You would select the pre-installed OS version at purchase but most of the time you would still receive the recovery CD's for both OS's.
I did come across one laptop Sony? Fujitsu Simmens? that had both a Win9x and NT flavour of windows installed but you had to select which one you wanted first time you turned the computer on and it deleted the other OS and continued setting up the selected one, so still no dual boot

Other common stickers were 98 + 2000, 2000+ XP, XP + Vista

Yes that "choose your OS" was a bit common during certain years with workstation class machines. Certain mid 2000's Dell Vostro's were that way, either XP or Win2k3 iirc..

Found at a swap meet:
- Geforce 2 Pro
- Geforce 2 Ti
- Geforce FX 5500 256MB
- Matrox G450 PCI (vga+dvi)
That G450 might just replace the voodoo1 in my p233mmx build .. or not. I guess we'll see

Horun wrote on 2024-04-22, 03:56:

Yes that "choose your OS" was a bit common during certain years with workstation class machines. Certain mid 2000's Dell Vostro's were that way, either XP or Win2k3 iirc..

Win2k3? As in Windows Server 2003?

I've seen plenty of Dell machines that were XP/Vista but never in my life have I seen a workstation come with server 2k3.

pete8475 wrote on 2024-05-19, 05:26:

Horun wrote on 2024-04-22, 03:56:

Yes that "choose your OS" was a bit common during certain years with workstation class machines. Certain mid 2000's Dell Vostro's were that way, either XP or Win2k3 iirc..

Win2k3? As in Windows Server 2003?

I've seen plenty of Dell machines that were XP/Vista but never in my life have I seen a workstation come with server 2k3.

Ironically, if you chose XP 64 Bit it was just 2003 pretending to be XP.

oh2ftu wrote on 2024-05-19, 05:19:

Found at a swap meet: - Geforce 2 Pro - Geforce 2 Ti - Geforce FX 5500 256MB - Matrox G450 PCI (vga+dvi) That G450 might just re […]
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Found at a swap meet:
- Geforce 2 Pro
- Geforce 2 Ti
- Geforce FX 5500 256MB
- Matrox G450 PCI (vga+dvi)
That G450 might just replace the voodoo1 in my p233mmx build .. or not. I guess we'll see

G450 on a 233MMX would be a miserable experience.

Why? I would expect Matrox drivers to have very good dx6-7 support.

I guess 1155 motherboards are at the bottom of the depreciation curve now. I spotted this on Craigslist's free section late yesterday, and I probably would have passed on this if there were much of a drive involved (California has the most expensive gasoline in the states at this time) but it was located about a block away, so I just walked over and picked it up (it was getting a little heavy to carry by the time I got back). I cleaned it this morning, and when I added some memory, it POSTed with no issues. The only problem I spotted was that someone had pulled the graphics card without releasing the retainer, which popped it loose from the top X16 slot. I found it in the bottom of the case and snapped it back into the slot, but then I realized it was missing a spring. I thought there was no chance of finding what would have to be a tiny spring, but while continuing to clean the case I found it! I should be able to get the catch working normally.

This case is fine functionally, but I think it's ugly. I now have several from this era, and while they seem too good to get rid of, there is no demand for them and I have more than I need.

This PSU is kinda weak for a modern build, but it would go well with something older since it has plenty of Molex four pin connectors. I think it would be a good match with my P4P 800.

Repo Man11 wrote on 2024-05-23, 18:13:

I guess 1155 motherboards are at the bottom of the depreciation curve now. I spotted this on Craigslist's free section late yesterday, and I probably would have passed on this if there were much of a drive involved (California has the most expensive gasoline in the states at this time) but it was located about a block away, so I just walked over and picked it up (it was getting a little heavy to carry by the time I got back). I cleaned it this morning, and when I added some memory, it POSTed with no issues. The only problem I spotted was that someone had pulled the graphics card without releasing the retainer, which popped it loose from the top X16 slot. I found it in the bottom of the case and snapped it back into the slot, but then I realized it was missing a spring. I thought there was no chance of finding what would have to be a tiny spring, but while continuing to clean the case I found it! I should be able to get the catch working normally.

This case is fine functionally, but I think it's ugly. I now have several from this era, and while they seem too good to get rid of, there is no demand for them and I have more than I need.

This PSU is kinda weak for a modern build, but it would go well with something older since it has plenty of Molex four pin connectors. I think it would be a good match with my P4P 800.

Nice! I like 1155 systems. From my experience, they just tend to be rock solid and that platform really marked a change in desktop computer CPUs. Sandy Bridge's usefulness was so long-lasting that it put the last nail in the coffin of the frequent CPU+motherboard upgrade cycle that most PC gamers were accustomed to. There was almost no point in upgrading until, at best Kaby Lake (6 years later), but many waited all the way until the Ryzen 3000 series like I did 8+ years later. At the time I bought my 2500K in 2011, the thought of a platform staying useful for the latest games for 8 years would have been a joke. If you'd done that before going to Sandy Bridge you'd have been rocking an Athlon XP or P4 Northwood, playing the latest games in 2011. 🤣

Anyway... that beastly Z68 board would be a great starting point for an overpowered XP system. Throw in a dirt cheap GTX 970 and a 2500K or 2600K\2700K and you'd have quite a machine.

... though if you have more of this era you have probably already done this at least once. 😁

EDIT: Also... those PCI slots are begging to be forced to produce sound in DOS with a Vortex 2 or some other surprisingly DOS-worthy sound card. Why? Because they exist.

Ozzuneoj wrote on 2024-05-23, 18:28:

Nice! I like 1155 systems. From my experience, they just tend to be rock solid and that platform really marked a change in deskt […]
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Repo Man11 wrote on 2024-05-23, 18:13:

I guess 1155 motherboards are at the bottom of the depreciation curve now. I spotted this on Craigslist's free section late yesterday, and I probably would have passed on this if there were much of a drive involved (California has the most expensive gasoline in the states at this time) but it was located about a block away, so I just walked over and picked it up (it was getting a little heavy to carry by the time I got back). I cleaned it this morning, and when I added some memory, it POSTed with no issues. The only problem I spotted was that someone had pulled the graphics card without releasing the retainer, which popped it loose from the top X16 slot. I found it in the bottom of the case and snapped it back into the slot, but then I realized it was missing a spring. I thought there was no chance of finding what would have to be a tiny spring, but while continuing to clean the case I found it! I should be able to get the catch working normally.

This case is fine functionally, but I think it's ugly. I now have several from this era, and while they seem too good to get rid of, there is no demand for them and I have more than I need.

This PSU is kinda weak for a modern build, but it would go well with something older since it has plenty of Molex four pin connectors. I think it would be a good match with my P4P 800.

Nice! I like 1155 systems. From my experience, they just tend to be rock solid and that platform really marked a change in desktop computer CPUs. Sandy Bridge's usefulness was so long-lasting that it put the last nail in the coffin of the frequent CPU+motherboard upgrade cycle that most PC gamers were accustomed to. There was almost no point in upgrading until, at best Kaby Lake (6 years later), but many waited all the way until the Ryzen 3000 series like I did. At the time 8 years was an absurd amount of time for a platform to stay useful for the latest games. If you'd done that before going to Sandy Bridge you'd have been rocking an Athlon XP or P4 Northwood, playing the latest games in 2011. 🤣

Anyway... that beastly X68 board would be a great starting point for an overpowered XP system. Throw in a dirt cheap GTX 970 and a 2500K or 2600K\2700K and you'd have quite a machine.

... though if you have more of this era you have probably already done this at least once. 😁

The last Z68 board I dealt with was as an upgrade for a nephew's gaming machine maybe 4 years ago? I even modified the BIOS to I could use the second X16 slot for an M2. drive.

I've never installed XP on one of these - my "Overpowered" XP system is a P5Q Pro with an X5460 Xeon. I bought that CPU in 2019 to build a basic gaming computer for the nephew (since I had a good Socket 775 motherboard), but then I scored a free HP 1155 system so I no longer needed it for him.

I just upgraded the BIOS to the last one available; interestingly, these boards shipped with a legacy BIOS, and only the last BIOS is UEFI. It did have a UEFI BIOS, but it was an older one that's been superseded.

Probably the biggest issue with 1155 now is the fact that Windows 11 isn't officially supported. I had no problem installing Win11 on an 1155 system last year, but I don't know if that's still possible.

Repo Man11 wrote on 2024-05-23, 18:44:

The last Z68 board I dealt with was as an upgrade for a nephew's gaming machine maybe 4 years ago? I even modified the BIOS to I […]
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Ozzuneoj wrote on 2024-05-23, 18:28:

Nice! I like 1155 systems. From my experience, they just tend to be rock solid and that platform really marked a change in deskt […]
Show full quote

Repo Man11 wrote on 2024-05-23, 18:13:

I guess 1155 motherboards are at the bottom of the depreciation curve now. I spotted this on Craigslist's free section late yesterday, and I probably would have passed on this if there were much of a drive involved (California has the most expensive gasoline in the states at this time) but it was located about a block away, so I just walked over and picked it up (it was getting a little heavy to carry by the time I got back). I cleaned it this morning, and when I added some memory, it POSTed with no issues. The only problem I spotted was that someone had pulled the graphics card without releasing the retainer, which popped it loose from the top X16 slot. I found it in the bottom of the case and snapped it back into the slot, but then I realized it was missing a spring. I thought there was no chance of finding what would have to be a tiny spring, but while continuing to clean the case I found it! I should be able to get the catch working normally.

This case is fine functionally, but I think it's ugly. I now have several from this era, and while they seem too good to get rid of, there is no demand for them and I have more than I need.

This PSU is kinda weak for a modern build, but it would go well with something older since it has plenty of Molex four pin connectors. I think it would be a good match with my P4P 800.

Nice! I like 1155 systems. From my experience, they just tend to be rock solid and that platform really marked a change in desktop computer CPUs. Sandy Bridge's usefulness was so long-lasting that it put the last nail in the coffin of the frequent CPU+motherboard upgrade cycle that most PC gamers were accustomed to. There was almost no point in upgrading until, at best Kaby Lake (6 years later), but many waited all the way until the Ryzen 3000 series like I did. At the time 8 years was an absurd amount of time for a platform to stay useful for the latest games. If you'd done that before going to Sandy Bridge you'd have been rocking an Athlon XP or P4 Northwood, playing the latest games in 2011. 🤣

Anyway... that beastly X68 board would be a great starting point for an overpowered XP system. Throw in a dirt cheap GTX 970 and a 2500K or 2600K\2700K and you'd have quite a machine.

... though if you have more of this era you have probably already done this at least once. 😁

The last Z68 board I dealt with was as an upgrade for a nephew's gaming machine maybe 4 years ago? I even modified the BIOS to I could use the second X16 slot for an M2. drive.

I've never installed XP on one of these - my "Overpowered" XP system is a P5Q Pro with an X5460 Xeon. I bought that CPU in 2019 to build a basic gaming computer for the nephew (since I had a good Socket 775 motherboard), but then I scored a free HP 1155 system so I no longer needed it for him.

I just upgraded the BIOS to the last one available; interestingly, these boards shipped with a legacy BIOS, and only the last BIOS is UEFI. It did have a UEFI BIOS, but it was an older one that's been superseded.

Probably the biggest issue with 1155 now is the fact that Windows 11 isn't officially supported. I had no problem installing Win11 on an 1155 system last year, but I don't know if that's still possible.

I believe Rufus can still be used to remove the TPM and Secure Boot checks on the Windows 11 install media.

https://www.xda-developers.com/install-window … unsupported-pc/

I haven't tried it recently, but I did this last year some time and it worked great using a Rufus-configured flash drive to install 11 on a Skylake equipped Optiplex system.

... though I think the biggest issue these days is that Microsoft has killed the ability to activate Windows 10\11 using a 7, 8 or 8.1 license. Since reading the news I haven't personally tried to activate one that wasn't already upgraded.

It does remove them. I have a 11 ISO prepped just that way... although as far as it concerns, 11 as it is doesn't look for Secure Boot last time I checked - just TPM. Worked for me on a Yorkfield build (Q9400), a Lynnfield build (i7 860) and the most recent machine it ran on was a rather peculiar yet cool Terra Mobile/Clevo W650SR lappy that had a Haswell i3 and a GT740M GPU.