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Reply 20 of 35, by dionb

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.legaCy wrote:

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The logic is cost.

Sound logic when it comes to new stuff, but if you have enough old crap to need a server to service it, I'd assume that at least one of those devices could be (part) purposed as a server, which would save even the cost of the Nano Pi.

Reply 21 of 35, by Deksor

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Well a nano pi doesn't cost much and is definitely much more smaller and quieter than any old pc you can find for free.

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Reply 22 of 35, by SirNickity

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I have been running Linux boxen off of flash media for years. The trick is to mount your log directory in a RAM disk and turn off any kind of indexing task in your crontab. If you do that, there should be very few writes to disk that you didn't ask for, and it'll last for years.

Reply 23 of 35, by Hamby

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just posting this here because the subject of web browsing came up... I'll post it in the right section after posting it here.

Apparently a version of Javascript for DOS, open source, is in the works... DOjS

https://blog.adafruit.com/2019/02/11/dojs-a-n … ntagecomputing/

Reply 24 of 35, by brostenen

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SirNickity wrote:
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Web browsing is one of the most demanding things modern computers do.

Yup.... Just linking to like 4 google font's and using them as embedded in your header tag, makes the website slow down horrible. I mean... It is font's for cying out loud. And that is even when the server are supposed to calculate the site and send the finished product to your browser. Anyway. That was 2013 and things might have changed since .NET 4.5 days. I really don't know, as I have not touched coding since the minute I was told that I had passed my web programming exam.

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Reply 25 of 35, by brostenen

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SirNickity wrote:

I have been running Linux boxen off of flash media for years. The trick is to mount your log directory in a RAM disk and turn off any kind of indexing task in your crontab. If you do that, there should be very few writes to disk that you didn't ask for, and it'll last for years.

Might be why I dislike running Linux server on a RaspberryPI. Need real storage and not them SD cards. My OrangePI Plus 2 have 16gb onboard eMMC storage and Linux ran way better when installed on the eMMC, as to running from SD on the OrangePI Plus 2. The board has SATA interface, yet that is communicating through the USB chip. Basically making it the same as if you modded the RaspberryPI to boot from USB and used an USB harddrive.

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Reply 26 of 35, by brostenen

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Deksor wrote:

Well a nano pi doesn't cost much and is definitely much more smaller and quieter than any old pc you can find for free.

And uses way less power. Good for 24/7 opration. Some of all them PI boards, do not use more power than a light bulb.

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Reply 27 of 35, by brostenen

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Errius wrote:

Has anyone had a Raspberry Pi die? I had one running continuously for three years without issues. It was finally taken down because I no longer needed it.

Going constant full load on the RPI3 without any cooling and in a small confined space, might indeed kill it in a brutal way. 🤣

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Reply 28 of 35, by kaputnik

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brostenen wrote:
Errius wrote:

Has anyone had a Raspberry Pi die? I had one running continuously for three years without issues. It was finally taken down because I no longer needed it.

Going constant full load on the RPI3 without any cooling and in a small confined space, might indeed kill it in a brutal way. 🤣

Using these cast aluminum cases for both the OSMC Pi 3 in the kitchen, and the Lakka "retro console" installation in the mancave. At least the latter should be close to full load for hours in row when running PSX games. Those cases got extrusions going down to the CPU and GPU, transferring the heat to the shell, works really well 😀

Reply 29 of 35, by brostenen

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kaputnik wrote:

Using these cast aluminum cases for both the OSMC Pi 3 in the kitchen, and the Lakka "retro console" installation in the mancave. At least the latter should be close to full load for hours in row when running PSX games. Those cases got extrusions going down to the CPU and GPU, transferring the heat to the shell, works really well 😀

Yup... They are wonderfull from what I understand from Youtube reviews.

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I had to find it, now that we are talking cases for RaspberryPI. Check this youtube review out...

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Reply 30 of 35, by RichPimp

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I just connected my retro Windows PCs to my Win 10 file server via FTP. I used to have a Linux server set up using Samba, but I had to jump through a few hoops to set it up (apparently, Linux doesn't like to play nice out of the box with external NTFS drives). After much hair-pulling, I settled on FTP because it just works. Other methods can be utilized, but it seems there's always a pain point to have to deal with. I really hate how networking from each successive version of Windows always seem to break backwards compatibility.

Reply 31 of 35, by Errius

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brostenen wrote:

Going constant full load on the RPI3 without any cooling and in a small confined space, might indeed kill it in a brutal way. 🤣

Yes, loads were light and most of the activity was on an external USB drive, which did eventually die. The Pi itself and its SD card were unharmed though.

This was with a rPi B+ bought in 2014 and retired in 2017.

Is this too much voodoo?

Reply 33 of 35, by brostenen

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Errius wrote:

Do hard drives last longer when run at SATA II instead of SATA III speeds?

I think it is more related to build quality and heat, than interface speed. After all, they are no more than laptop drives.
Else you can go the 3.5 inch route, with a good fan in the drive it self.

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Reply 34 of 35, by audiocrush

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Deksor wrote on 2019-02-12, 09:32:
I can confirm that samba works even in DOS or WFW3.11 […]
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I can confirm that samba works even in DOS or WFW3.11

You can even combine it with a FTP server if you want.

I have a Pi 2 hooked up to a laptop HDD and has a WiFi dongle connected to it. It operates as a router, DHCP server, pxe server and file server. It works flawlessly and makes really your life easier ^^

Any computer with a NIC can benefit from it, from the old 8088 to the beefy p3 (though, an 8088 won't run the samba client for DOS, but FTP will be ok)

Imo, FTP is more versatile, but SMB is more practical. Since you can combine both, you should use both ^^

Hi,
@deksor

I've seen you mentioned your samba server works with windows for workgroups 3.11
I've been fiddling with my smb.conf for days now and I can't get it to work.
Could you maybe share yours so I can see what I do wrong?

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Reply 35 of 35, by davidrg

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What have you tried so far and what version of Samba are you running? If this is a new samba instance you've setup it might be worth looking at RetroNAS which AFAIK already has Samba setup however you need it to talk to Windows 3.x. Looking at the ansible yml file it looks like RetroNAS currently sets the following:

min protocol = CORE
nebios name = retrosmb
lanman auth = yes
client lanman auth = yes
client ntlm auth = yes
ntlmv2 auth = yes
client ntlmv2 auth = yes
unix extensions = no

This may only work until your next OS upgrade though - apparently Samba is planning to drop support for DOS and Windows 3.x (possibly 9x too?) some time soon if they haven't already. When this happens you'll have to find a way of running old versions of Samba or switch to an alternative network drive solution.