HanSolo wrote on 2022-06-15, 11:18:All your stories have one red line:
- you found somebody who offered some stuff without having the slightest idea how much they […]
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Radical Vision wrote on 2022-06-15, 10:22:That is how i lost Diamond Monster MX300 Aureal VorteX II... Some guy saw my AD ( i have ADs on local sites, that i buy off and […]
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HanSolo wrote on 2022-06-15, 10:07:As far as I see it, this guy simply knows the CPU is rare but he has no clue what a realistic price might be. That's why he acce […]
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As far as I see it, this guy simply knows the CPU is rare but he has no clue what a realistic price might be. That's why he accepts offers.
Honestly I don't see anything bad about it. What would you do?
I think it's the same person. The photo is different but has the same background. But maybe I missed something..
(And even if it is a different person I still don't see anything bad about it except a stolen photo)
That is how i lost Diamond Monster MX300 Aureal VorteX II... Some guy saw my AD ( i have ADs on local sites, that i buy off and look for retro) and we did talk business, he wanted like 10-13 euro for that card i was fine with that ofc the card was in pristine condition even better... But since i ask every single guy that shows me something good, or if i spot some goods on AD i ask every time if the serller have more stuff that he did not add to the AD, and i wait if they do have to make pictures so i can see if i will get lucky... Sadly that Diamond MX300 guy was one of the smart ones after 1 day only he send some more pictures but he did got the idea there is ebay, and that these old parts are not as useless as he did think, so he did cancel the sell, later on i saw the same card costing 60 euros and i was like FK that guy...
One time i saw IBM Aptiva 486 (did not need such system, BUT for trades was going to be nice weapon/ ace in the sleeve) it did cost only the funny 15 euros i called the seller saying i will buy the machine, but was later and the seller wanted to be on the next day fine with me.. And what to see 2 hours later the same IBM Aptiva was changed price 3 fucking times 15>40>140 euros i was like what the actual FK.... I called the seller, he acted like he did not talk with me, or the price was not 15 euros i was mad... Talked 15 minutes with him could not make him agree on the fucking price HE did use cursed him good and told hiom to go fuck himself and to lose all the money he will earn from that system and even more. And it was clear it was not mistake, as he rised the price in 2 hours 3 times wtf....
Or a guy that did send me message with Voodoo III 2K AGP and the offer of 3 euro for the card (seems he did think that card is some old garbage) i did accept the generous offer of him ofc, and as usual asked if there are more parts, he said to wait 2-3 days for him to look arround... Then 2 days later he also same as the VorteX II seller, had got the idea these 3Dfx cards was expensive on ebay, he showed me Voodoo Banshee black one as well, and said he will cancer the deal i got really mad started to swear him, and since i did write alot of swears like 5-6 minutes did pass, in that time my anger cooled and i started thinking wtf to do to get at least the closed deal on the Voodoo III as he did offer 3 euros and i did accept meaning the deal is ON, no matter if he wants to backpedal from the deal.. Literally told the guy to act like man and to keep on his word, not like a c**t to backpedal as if he did come to me and ask from the beginning 50-60 euros was going to be whole different story, and literally commanded him to send me the promiced Voodoo III, and to keep the Banshee and sell it on whatever price he wants.. Lickly for me the guy at least acted like a man and sended the Voodoo III card for 3 euros as promised and shanken hands....
One time there was AD for Voodoo Rush Acorp priced only 10 euros, i contacted the seller wanting to purchase the card ofc.. He was like the card is sold, i was like ok. And what to see year later that same piece of lying SHIT selling the same exact card, same exact pictures but the price is now 70 euros, and i know it is him, as i remember the name, saved the account from the previous time, and the pictures are exatly the same... Contacted that lying piece of shit to tell him that i want my card for 10 euros, he was like we did never talk, and he prob does not remember as was like 8 months ago or more... Clever and nasty mother fucker that seller is, to lie the card is sold, instead of sending it, or say he wont sell it to me for 10 euros, cuz he saw it cost alot more.... Whatever sweared him too and told him, the karma is bitch and he will get the same crap from someone else, and feel bad fuck him...
All your stories have one red line:
- you found somebody who offered some stuff without having the slightest idea how much they are worth.
- They found out about the real value after you contacted them and they backed out of the deal.
- Now you are pissed that you didn't get the stuff WAY under its market value.
Yes, one should not act like an idiot and pretend a conversation never happened. At least be honest about it - I give you that.
But 'act like a man and keep to his word' has limits. And if somebody realizes he's about to give away things literally for free that are worth quite some amount of money those limits are reached.
Radical Vision wrote on 2022-06-15, 10:58:
After all when you buy/ sell things both sides need to be correct and keep on their word, and not to pull some nasty tricks and try to screw eatch other..
Nice words. Do they also apply to you? As a buyer? Are you man enough to tell somebody that the price he's asking is unrealistically low? From all the stuff you posted I think I know the answer..
I think it is common sense, that WHEN someone sell something it is HIS responsibility to take HIS time and effort to REsearch what he have, what value it holds if any, and THEN to come and contact me/ make AD and price the thing he have for the price he want... You cant blame me for being "dishonest" for grabbing every single 3Dfx card for dirt cheap or other stuff, as i did spend time to learn about retro PC HW, and i can give a hand and say about real value of something to a friend, or family or someone close to me... 99% of this forum and mother earth even if you want, will think the same, or better to say if they find local AD, ebay or whatever for 5$ Voodoo 1,2,3 card or like 20-30$ Voodoo 5 they will JUST buy it, and wont go straight to tell the seller, he cna get like 600$ instead.... I bet you will do that as well... What i said was meant to WHEN me and some seller cut a deal and shake hands, they are not allowed to backpedal on the deal as they did agree on the price and i did as well.. If they do backpedal that mean they are scumbag...
I did took my time to learn about old computers, and did reasearch this forum, and all over the internet, you tube and whatever, i did my part in knowing stuff.. If some seller sells something no matter what it is for dirt cheap, and that thing costs ALOT he can blame only himself for being ignorant.. Or you want to tell me that is not the case ? Sure eveyrone have different views about life, money and whatever, but still..
They apply when i contact sellers i say i will buy something i buy it, not to backpedal if i decide later i dont need the thing, i ask also dor money back if the thing turns out to be bad or totally dead, and i do the same as seller too i give 20 days money back if the thing i sold turns to crap.. I dont know why YOU think me or anyone needs to tell the real price of something, that some seller sells for dirt cheap, after all i did NOT tell the seller to sell it for dirst cheap, he decided to put some small amount of money... Hell i even do overpay/ overtrade when i get something good for cheap.. For example when i did buy bunch of ISA cards there was AWE64 Value and SB16 with OPL3, Yamahas and others, the total cost of all cards was like 50 euros, i did overpay 20 euros extra....
HanSolo wrote on 2022-06-15, 11:18:
But 'act like a man and keep to his word' has limits. And if somebody realizes he's about to give away things literally for free that are worth quite some amount of money those limits are reached.
What you said is like that, BUT if i did cut a deal and we both did agree on the price the seller WAS ASKING, and then he to backpedal and start acting like a c**t and wanting 2,3,4 the amount of money that is BS and he did not keep his man`s word.... In that case the seller is WRONG and VERY wrong he did:
1. not take his time to do his reasearch and was ignorant
2. cut a deal for the amount of money HE firstly wanted
3. later he found the price of that thing is way more, and cancels the deal, while the deal was CUT and we did shake hands on another price.......
If i start to advice every ignorant seller, they need to sell that Voodoo 1,2,3 card for ALOT more and give me 50% of the amount they sold it for, cuz if was not fore me, they was going to get 10 euro, instead of 100/200 .....
Mah systems retro, old, newer (Radical stuff)
W3680 4.5/ GA-x58 UD7/ R9 280x
K7 2.6/ NF7-S/ HD3850
IBM x2 P3 933/ GA-6VXD7/ Voodoo V 5.5K
Cmq P2 450/ GA-BX2000/ V2 SLI
IBM PC365
Cmq DeskPRO 486/33
IBM PS/2 Model 56
SPS IntelleXT 8088