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Absolute fastest storage solution for socket 7

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First post, by Sphere478

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Over the years I’ve tried this and that attempting to get the absolute fastest storage combo for socket 7

Obviously onboard is quite easily eclipsed by add in cards.

My go to over the years has been the promise sata II tx4 which works in most motherboards and supports cd booting which is super handy.

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Lately I have been using it with sata m.2 asapters and it has worked great!

But ever in search of faster,
I’ve tried m.2 nvme on pci adapters but that was probably even slower than a 8 bit xt-ide surprisingly

Re: M.2 NVMe working on old school regular pci

Which brings us to my latest toy:

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😀 tests soon to follow. Unfortunately, I bought it mostly for novelty and am currently not even sure if driver support for 9x exists 🤣. So I assume tests will likely need to be done under xp

Sphere's PCB projects.
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Sphere’s socket 5/7 cpu collection.
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SUCCESSFUL K6-2+ to K6-3+ Full Cache Enable Mod
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Tyan S1564S to S1564D single to dual processor conversion (also s1563 and s1562)

Reply 1 of 24, by majestyk

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That Marvel SATA controller is PCI-X and would "walk on one leg" in a regular PCI slot. It could be superior if you are connecting many SATA drives and have a lot of data being moved / copied beween drives.

Reply 2 of 24, by Sphere478

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https://www.areca.com.tw/chinaweb/products/pcix.htm

Like I said ai don’t know much about these but they apparently are among the best performing pci on some comparisons I found long ago. I’ve been searching for one for some time. Goal is fastest on pci. And to get a cool card for the collection.

But apparently it is based on a intel processor.

I’m hoping for a decent amount of cpu offloading.

Past this, I will need to experiment with scsi. But while scsi and controllers are pretty nice, ssd options for it are lacking where as I can go straight for modern sata m.2 with this.

Sphere's PCB projects.
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Sphere’s socket 5/7 cpu collection.
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SUCCESSFUL K6-2+ to K6-3+ Full Cache Enable Mod
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Tyan S1564S to S1564D single to dual processor conversion (also s1563 and s1562)

Reply 3 of 24, by darry

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How fast is your current fastest solution ?

Reply 4 of 24, by Sphere478

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I’ll try to get some benchmarks.

I’ll test it on my 66/400mhz k6-3+ tyan s1564d setup.

On my freeway ultra with 100/600mhz I can probably do better but it isn’t set up at the moment.

Sphere's PCB projects.
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Sphere’s socket 5/7 cpu collection.
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SUCCESSFUL K6-2+ to K6-3+ Full Cache Enable Mod
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Tyan S1564S to S1564D single to dual processor conversion (also s1563 and s1562)

Reply 5 of 24, by Repo Man11

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Here's my TXP4 with a K6-3+ @ 500 MHz & 256 megabytes of SDRAM with a Sil3114 SATA card and a basic TeamGroup 120 meg SSD.

After watching many YouTube videos about older computer hardware, YouTube began recommending videos about trains - are they trying to tell me something?

Reply 6 of 24, by pentiumspeed

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Your latest toy will have much better performance, really.

The consumer PCI to SATA is dumb chips just to meet demand.

Cheers,

Great Northern aka Canada.

Reply 7 of 24, by Repo Man11

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Sphere478 wrote on 2022-12-04, 19:39:

I’ll try to get some benchmarks.

I’ll test it on my 66/400mhz k6-3+ tyan s1564d setup.

On my freeway ultra with 100/600mhz I can probably do better but it isn’t set up at the moment.

I wouldn't be too sure - my MVP3 boards lag behind my TXP4 in hard drive speed when measured with ATTO with very similar cards and drives in spite of higher bus speeds and CPU clock speeds. These are both with a Promise Ultra 100 IDE card.

After watching many YouTube videos about older computer hardware, YouTube began recommending videos about trains - are they trying to tell me something?

Reply 8 of 24, by pentiumspeed

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Too true in specific cases as you said previously.

Cheers,

Great Northern aka Canada.

Reply 9 of 24, by Zeerex

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Does these improve boot times with 98 on a K6?

Reply 10 of 24, by Sphere478

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I hope so 😀 but drivers might be an issue

Here is win ME on the tyan m.2 sata on tx4 sata II this os doesn’t have a driver so much as it kinda just knows what to call it and doesn’t complain from my understanding so with a real driver this may be better.

Sphere's PCB projects.
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Sphere’s socket 5/7 cpu collection.
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SUCCESSFUL K6-2+ to K6-3+ Full Cache Enable Mod
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Tyan S1564S to S1564D single to dual processor conversion (also s1563 and s1562)

Reply 11 of 24, by Horun

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Did you try this driver: https://us.driverscollection.com/?H=88SX6081&By=Marvell
probably not the correct one but could not hurt...

Hate posting a reply and then have to edit it because it made no sense 😁 First computer was an IBM 3270 workstation with CGA monitor. Stuff: https://archive.org/details/@horun

Reply 12 of 24, by Sphere478

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I haven’t put the card in yet. That last pic was the tx4

So no 9x driver huh? 🙁

I’ll try it without a driver see how it does

Sphere's PCB projects.
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Sphere’s socket 5/7 cpu collection.
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SUCCESSFUL K6-2+ to K6-3+ Full Cache Enable Mod
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Tyan S1564S to S1564D single to dual processor conversion (also s1563 and s1562)

Reply 13 of 24, by Sphere478

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Lol this card has about the specs that the system does 🤣

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I had to set the controller to jbod before it would boot and it doesn’t seem to support cd drives which is a bummer but no biggie.

Running windows ME test with no driver. Let’s see what it’s got without drivers. 😀

It honestly does feel faster booting and moving around windows. Dang.

Sphere's PCB projects.
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Sphere’s socket 5/7 cpu collection.
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SUCCESSFUL K6-2+ to K6-3+ Full Cache Enable Mod
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Tyan S1564S to S1564D single to dual processor conversion (also s1563 and s1562)

Reply 14 of 24, by Sphere478

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Okay here we go, it is definitely better.

Now to get a 9x driver… or at least failing that, get windows to stop bothering me for a driver…?

Sphere's PCB projects.
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Sphere’s socket 5/7 cpu collection.
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SUCCESSFUL K6-2+ to K6-3+ Full Cache Enable Mod
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Tyan S1564S to S1564D single to dual processor conversion (also s1563 and s1562)

Reply 16 of 24, by Sphere478

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Thanks 😀

Any ideas why our transfer speeds look so different? Because of driver? Seems weird that it isn’t a nice parabola like repoman’s

I’m sure that 83mhz fsb is helping :p I’m at 66mhz

Sphere's PCB projects.
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Sphere’s socket 5/7 cpu collection.
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SUCCESSFUL K6-2+ to K6-3+ Full Cache Enable Mod
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Tyan S1564S to S1564D single to dual processor conversion (also s1563 and s1562)

Reply 17 of 24, by Repo Man11

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This is probably a bit of a closer match: a PCChips M520 running a K6-3+ @ 450 MHz (6x75), VX chipset, EDO RAM, with a Sil3114 SATA PCI card and a Seagate hybrid drive. I also tried an SSD, but there was so little difference in speed (because of the system being the choke point) that I thought this would be a good home for the hybrid drive. Someone posted results of a VX chipset board with SDRAM, and the memory bandwidth results were much closer to my TXP4. Sad that SDRAM DIMMs that will work with the VX chipset are so very rare.

After watching many YouTube videos about older computer hardware, YouTube began recommending videos about trains - are they trying to tell me something?

Reply 18 of 24, by brian105

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I got these speeds from a Promise SATA/150 adapter on my SS7 machine. iirc I had a small 5 mb/s improvement over this after I installed VIA PCI patches but this pic is from before those patches.
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Presario 5284: K6-2+ 550 ACZ @ 600 2v, 256MB PC133, GeForce4 MX 440SE 64MB, MVP3, Maxtor SATA/150 PCI card, 16GB Sandisk U100 SATA SSD
2007 Desktop: Athlon 64 X2 6000+, Asus M2v-MX SE, Foxconn 7950GT 512mb, 4GB DDR2 800, Audigy 2 ZS, WinME/XP