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First post, by OMORES

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Can anyone help me with NT 3.51 / 4 drivers for Intergraph RealiZm II ZX25? The card was launched in 1997 and obviously must be compatible with NT4 (even NT 3.51), but the only drivers I could find are some later universal drivers for Windows 2000/XP. The whole Intergraph RealiZM line up is not very common since the MSRP for the card was $18K in 1997 (with monitor included), but this exact version MSMT415 is even rarer since the only reference I found was in a PDF.

Anyways, I don't think there is a special driver for this card but for the whole RealiZM II line up...

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Reply 2 of 11, by Horun

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Yeah the Intergraph archive here: https://web.archive.org/web/20061017032503/ht … t4.asp#graphics
for Realizm points to 3Dlabs and here: https://web.archive.org/web/20021216200717/ht … e3d_drivers.htm
The user guide is at https://www.manualslib.com/manual/672041/Inte … i-Graphics.html

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Reply 3 of 11, by OMORES

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Well, good news. I found some working drivers on a Japanese website. http://www.fmworld.net/biz/vpro/lib/int3d/int3d.exe

These drivers are meant for the MSMT496 model. The card I have is a MSMT415 with 32 frame buffer + 64MB texture memory. I think this is the maximum. I don't know what performance to expect in GLQuake..., but they do install and do work.

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Reply 4 of 11, by red-ray

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OMORES wrote on 2023-03-02, 21:05:

they do install and do work.

Good, does SIV report it on Menu->Machine->GPU Info, if so please will you post the screen shot, if not post the Menu->File->Save Local files and I will try and fix it.

It would be best if you updated to SIV 5.69 Beta-06 first.

Please will you post an export of HKLM\System\CurrentControlSet\Services\glzmpd ?

List Price (as of 9/1/97) $19,310 (includes monitor) !

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Reply 5 of 11, by Horun

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Those int3d drivers are a older Version: 04.05.02.05 than the ones I posted a link to above, Version: 04.06.02.22 in I4K_04060222.zip.
it contains mostly exact same files other than a few added languages. I think it would work too........

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Reply 6 of 11, by OMORES

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red-ray wrote on 2023-03-02, 21:42:

It would be best if you updated to SIV 5.69 Beta-06 first.

Done.

@Horun download web.archive.org links unfortunately are broken.

Now a big deal would be to find any NT 3.51 drivers. Being released in late 1997 it's not a guarantee to be NT 3.51 compatible.

But if there are drivers this should be the best OpenGL card for NT 3.51.

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Reply 7 of 11, by Horun

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OMORES wrote on 2023-03-02, 23:54:

@Horun download web.archive.org links unfortunately are broken.

Now a big deal would be to find any NT 3.51 drivers. Being released in late 1997 it's not a guarantee to be NT 3.51 compatible.

But if there are drivers this should be the best OpenGL card for NT 3.51.

I did not have a problem to DL the Win NT4.0 Microsoft Certified 04.06.02.22,
https://web.archive.org/web/20021216200717/ht … 4K_04060222.zip
both from IE11 and Firefox v110.0. worked fine. Would have attached it here but is larger than 2Mb which is what the Mods/admins set as a max for attachments.

There is mention of the NT 3.5x drivers in the archives but no links.....

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Reply 8 of 11, by Doornkaat

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Horun wrote on 2023-03-03, 01:38:
I did not have a problem to DL the Win NT4.0 Microsoft Certified 04.06.02.22, https://web.archive.org/web/20021216200717/ht … 4 […]
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OMORES wrote on 2023-03-02, 23:54:

@Horun download web.archive.org links unfortunately are broken.

Now a big deal would be to find any NT 3.51 drivers. Being released in late 1997 it's not a guarantee to be NT 3.51 compatible.

But if there are drivers this should be the best OpenGL card for NT 3.51.

I did not have a problem to DL the Win NT4.0 Microsoft Certified 04.06.02.22,
https://web.archive.org/web/20021216200717/ht … 4K_04060222.zip
both from IE11 and Firefox v110.0. worked fine. Would have attached it here but is larger than 2Mb which is what the Mods/admins set as a max for attachments.

There is mention of the NT 3.5x drivers in the archives but no links.....

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Reply 9 of 11, by red-ray

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OMORES wrote on 2023-03-02, 23:54:

Done.

Thank you. Please will you post an export of HKLM\System\CurrentControlSet\Services\glzmpd ?

SIV reported RealiZm II, but the scan found the incorrect device. I should have fixed this in the attached SIV32L V5.69 Scan-07 test SIV, may I have new save files so I can check?

Do you have the card working with other than NT 4.00 and if so what does [GPU Info] report? From Windows 2000 the code path is very different to Windows NT4 and earlier.

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Reply 10 of 11, by OMORES

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Thank you for the drivers. I installed the new drivers and they read now the correct DCC info so I can enable full HD resolution, but I end up with some vertical black bars. The image need to be stretched about 10% to cover the full display area. I experienced this also with my Voodoo 3 @ 1920x1080. With Voodoo 3 this issue could be fixed with PowerStrip.

I'm still very curios about NT 3.51 drivers. They must be on the original discs but I don't see anything archive.org

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Reply 11 of 11, by red-ray

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OMORES wrote on 2023-03-04, 12:51:

I'm still very curios about NT 3.51 drivers.

Thank you for checking out SIV 5.69 Scan-07. It worked as I hoped it would do, next I would like to report the RealiZm II clocks, but suspect finding the information on how to do this will be harder than finding the 3.51 drivers!

I was hoping there would be values in the registry as there are for the Texas TVP4020 Permedia 2 [GLoria Synergy], but there aren't.