Stermy57 wrote on 2023-07-07, 10:18:Another myth: no absolutely no.
You will lose compatibility and image quality with them because Nvidia starts cheating with Det […]
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Another myth: no absolutely no.
You will lose compatibility and image quality with them because Nvidia starts cheating with Detonator 4x.xx not with 5x.xx.
Compatibility/image quality side is better to use 30.82 or older.
Of course with NV3x you are almost obligated to use them but using them like a reference starting point, from my experience, it's wrong.
Even more if you want to run say W3.1 and W95 games that work on W98.
I didn't know this, seems that 45.xx is lauded here as THE W98 driver.
Dunno why community agreed on 4x.xx as go to driver if what you're saying holds up.
30.82 is probably max GF3/4 territory, which isn't that bad tho.
There isn't a single end all be all W98 solution.
But chasing the optimal SW/HW combo with most performance/compatibility is the next best thing if you don't wanna build a W98 PC for every ~2 years of W98's existence.
Even worse if you want that W98 to run old DOS, W3.1 and W95 games...
And multibooting is also available for different driver versions/GPUs.
Dothan Burger wrote on 2023-07-07, 02:14:
I'm fairly sure I had QFX3000 and the 5700U running on the 45.23 last time I checked. If not 53.04 can be done.
Edit: that would have to be the Asrock dual Sata with the ULi chipset. I can't think of another board that had a true AGP slot and a 16X PCIe slot on the same board. In my experience the Geforces6 series is not much better in 98. I have tons of those too. In the same system I'm testing with, I was running a Quadro FX 3400 that I could unlock pipes to 6800GT level. I ended up sticking with the FX, because the Chameleon demo would exhibit input lag. Even on the AGP system my 6800GT just isn't that great in 98. It's killer in XP but then again, my 7950gt is even better. My next builds I'll probably be running an ATi 9600XT or God forbid the X700 that's freaky fast in 98 for what it is.
The PT880 (forgot if needs Pro/Ultra) chipset does true AGP (ULi for AMD).
The Asus P4V800D-X s478, Asrock P4Dual-880Pro s478 and Asrock 775Dual-880Pro s775 (and DualVSTA, but no W98 drivers on their page) should have native AGP.
That's according to them calling their AGP actually AGP and not AGI or similar pseudo AGP, the mobo manuals, and PT880 datasheet.
Regarding QFX3000 and 5700U, well I'm going by patchnotes from that link.
Maybe edited INF, RivaTuner ID faking, or edited strapping/deviceID could push them to 45.xx, dunno about that.
The Serpent Rider wrote on 2023-07-07, 11:49:
Dothan Burger wrote on 2023-07-06, 16:31:
Blood 2: Black screen and flickering HUD, unplayable really.
That's an old problem, download RivaTuner and check blitting in Direct3D options. Easy fix.
Dothan Burger wrote on 2023-07-07, 12:33:
Thank you! I'll test again tonight and then update my post with the results.
Unless it works on AGP FX cards out of the box, maybe leaving this in "broken" territory but with an asterisk "fixable".
Since the point is what works as is, except if a game has a patch, then patched is also ok.