VOGONS


First post, by T.T.Labs

User metadata
Rank Newbie
Rank
Newbie

I recently bought a FIC 486-VE4 motherboard, but the BIOS may be faulty in that the boot screen doesn't prompt for EISA. does anyone have a motherboard like this?

Motherboard

The attachment d38736164ce3e91c8cb61c8116cff96.jpg is no longer available

BIOS startup screen

The attachment Screenshot_2023-09-11_18-01-46.png is no longer available

I dump BIOS file.

The attachment 486-VE4.ZIP is no longer available

Reply 1 of 18, by Horun

User metadata
Rank l33t++
Rank
l33t++

You are missing the Dallas RTC (empty socket with DS1---8 ?) showing. Usually those are the Dallas DS1387 or equal (has 4k extra ram t0 hold the EISA config's)
This FIC board has exact same chipset and is EISA but with two added VLB slots. Its BIOS is also dated 6/6/92 and may work...
https://theretroweb.com/motherboards/s/fic-48 … -ve-v#downloads
There are quite a few differences between your bios dump and it's BIOS, one notable thing is "EISA"string near end by the date in it, but not yours,,,,

Hate posting a reply and then have to edit it because it made no sense 😁 First computer was an IBM 3270 workstation with CGA monitor. Stuff: https://archive.org/details/@horun

Reply 2 of 18, by T.T.Labs

User metadata
Rank Newbie
Rank
Newbie
Horun wrote on 2023-09-13, 23:07:
You are missing the Dallas RTC (empty socket with DS1---8 ?) showing. Usually those are the Dallas DS1387 or equal (has 4k extr […]
Show full quote

You are missing the Dallas RTC (empty socket with DS1---8 ?) showing. Usually those are the Dallas DS1387 or equal (has 4k extra ram t0 hold the EISA config's)
This FIC board has exact same chipset and is EISA but with two added VLB slots. Its BIOS is also dated 6/6/92 and may work...
https://theretroweb.com/motherboards/s/fic-48 … -ve-v#downloads
There are quite a few differences between your bios dump and it's BIOS, one notable thing is "EISA"string near end by the date in it, but not yours,,,,

It's not missing, just not in this picture.

The attachment 6c540b5c9a6754385ebcbb3a33722da.jpg is no longer available
The attachment c2da845af1860552a8f68a07836cf82.jpg is no longer available

Ok, I'll try to take a look, but I don't have an EISA configuration.

Reply 3 of 18, by majestyk

User metadata
Rank Oldbie
Rank
Oldbie

What happens when you boot into DOS and run the EISA-config utility ("ecu207.exe")?
As far as I remember all is done with that utility, at POST/boot the 486-VE4 looks just like some non-EISA 486 mainboard.

Reply 4 of 18, by T.T.Labs

User metadata
Rank Newbie
Rank
Newbie
majestyk wrote on 2023-09-14, 11:53:

What happens when you boot into DOS and run the EISA-config utility ("ecu207.exe")?
As far as I remember all is done with that utility, at POST/boot the 486-VE4 looks just like some non-EISA 486 mainboard.

I extracted ecu207.exe and executed SD.EXE to configure it, but after reboot it still says EISA configuration error.

The attachment Screenshot_2023-09-14_23-55-27.png is no longer available
The attachment Screenshot_2023-09-15_00-00-55.png is no longer available

Reply 5 of 18, by majestyk

User metadata
Rank Oldbie
Rank
Oldbie

Have you installed the .cfg (and .ovl) files for the mainboard itself and all present EISA cards?
If you did and it finished without error, the EISA configuration is probably not stored correctly. And of course you need to replace the battery ("Dallas-Mod").
"Battery state low" usually means empty.

Reply 7 of 18, by T.T.Labs

User metadata
Rank Newbie
Rank
Newbie
majestyk wrote on 2023-09-14, 16:30:

Have you installed the .cfg (and .ovl) files for the mainboard itself and all present EISA cards?
If you did and it finished without error, the EISA configuration is probably not stored correctly. And of course you need to replace the battery ("Dallas-Mod").
"Battery state low" usually means empty.

I processed it by directly downloading the EISA-config utility ("ecu207.exe").

Yes, I have replaced the battery ("Dallas-Mod").

Reply 8 of 18, by T.T.Labs

User metadata
Rank Newbie
Rank
Newbie
PC Hoarder Patrol wrote on 2023-09-14, 16:48:

Doesn't appear to be an .ovl file in that package.

Far as I can find, the only FIC 486 EISA board referred to by LEO Systems (in their file library ) was the 486VE-V https://web.archive.org/web/20001110115000/ht … ort/bios.html#2

I saw it, but unfortunately there's no way to download it.

Reply 9 of 18, by majestyk

User metadata
Rank Oldbie
Rank
Oldbie

The VE-V is the same chipset, has EISA + 2 x VLB, it can be configured for up to 1MB L2 cache, so the BIOS and .cfg will probably be different.
There´s only the .cfg. file, no overlay - bus this is not unusual.

Reply 10 of 18, by T.T.Labs

User metadata
Rank Newbie
Rank
Newbie
majestyk wrote on 2023-09-14, 18:13:

The VE-V is the same chipset, has EISA + 2 x VLB, it can be configured for up to 1MB L2 cache, so the BIOS and .cfg will probably be different.
There´s only the .cfg. file, no overlay - bus this is not unusual.

The attachment Screenshot_2023-09-16_01-14-36.png is no longer available
The attachment Screenshot_2023-09-16_01-13-27.png is no longer available

I tried to edit and save the EISA configuration with SD.EXE, but after rebooting and running SD.EXE it still says unconfigured.

Reply 11 of 18, by majestyk

User metadata
Rank Oldbie
Rank
Oldbie

How come the configuration utility detects everything correctly, but gives you "Realtimeclock - Reserved"? Can you edit this line?

Reply 12 of 18, by T.T.Labs

User metadata
Rank Newbie
Rank
Newbie
majestyk wrote on 2023-09-15, 18:04:

How come the configuration utility detects everything correctly, but gives you "Realtimeclock - Reserved"? Can you edit this line?

The attachment Screenshot_2023-09-17_13-09-24.png is no longer available
The attachment Screenshot_2023-09-17_13-09-35.png is no longer available

It can be viewed, but not edited.

Reply 13 of 18, by T.T.Labs

User metadata
Rank Newbie
Rank
Newbie

I bought a new DS1387 and replaced it on it, but it didn't work, it still prompts a checksum error.

The attachment 5ce8e954b1631ff058a38a85bb57476.jpg is no longer available
The attachment Screenshot_2023-09-17_13-07-18.png is no longer available
The attachment Screenshot_2023-09-17_13-07-36.png is no longer available

Reply 14 of 18, by majestyk

User metadata
Rank Oldbie
Rank
Oldbie

Not exactly new - it was made in 1994. But if the battery still works it´s o.k.

Does the utility write the config file on the floppy disk when you try to save the configuration?

And why is there a keyboard error being reported?

Reply 15 of 18, by T.T.Labs

User metadata
Rank Newbie
Rank
Newbie
majestyk wrote on 2023-09-17, 07:04:

Not exactly new - it was made in 1994. But if the battery still works it´s o.k.

Does the utility write the config file on the floppy disk when you try to save the configuration?

And why is there a keyboard error being reported?

No, I can't back up the configuration.

The attachment Screenshot_2023-09-17_15-24-56.png is no longer available

Reply 16 of 18, by majestyk

User metadata
Rank Oldbie
Rank
Oldbie

Before running the EISA utility, have you entered BIOS setup and configured everything like time, date, boot order etc? Can you save these settings without getting any error message?

Reply 17 of 18, by T.T.Labs

User metadata
Rank Newbie
Rank
Newbie
majestyk wrote on 2023-09-17, 07:48:

Before running the EISA utility, have you entered BIOS setup and configured everything like time, date, boot order etc? Can you save these settings without getting any error message?

Yes, BIOS setup works fine and can be saved.

The attachment Screenshot_2023-09-13_19-12-20.png is no longer available

The boot process if using the FIC 486 VE-V BIOS will prompt 'EISA CMOS checksum failure'

The attachment Screenshot_2023-09-17_13-07-36.png is no longer available

You can boot DOS without any problem.

The attachment Screenshot_2023-09-17_18-51-04.png is no longer available

Reply 18 of 18, by majestyk

User metadata
Rank Oldbie
Rank
Oldbie

So you´re booting DOS from HD? Have you tried booting DOS fom floppy (with no HD attached) and running EISA cfg?
EISA config might be unable to handle "non-A:\" paths I´m afraid.