First post, by ratfink
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A few months ago I bought a couple of MSI K7Ds, half a dozen Athlon MP processors and 4 x 512mb of ECC ram [two matched pairs, single-sided and double-sided respectively. Since then I've been playing with them on and off - initially I ran a Voodoo 3 and a Santa Cruz, but the fans I have were too loud for peaceful gaming so I moved on to linux. Lately I started to get weird kernel issues I did not understand [after upgrading to the Debian 7 and the latest kernel], so I reverted once more to Windows, and over the past few weeks I have had a lot of problems.
The basic hardware is an MSI K7D Master-L [red pcb] with two Athlon MP 1600s. Wildcat VP870 graphics card, Turtle Beach Santa Cruz, 3C905. Windows 2000 SP4. Latest motherboard drivers. Latest graphics and sound card drivers. Directx8 and 9.
Typical problems include:
- machine won't boot with sound cards in particular PCI slots
- machine freezes after doing things like playing Diablo 2
- machine crashes after exiting Diablo 2 sometimes.
- stuttering sound during the spalsh screens ["Blizzard" and "Blizzard North"] of Diablo 2.
- machine won't boot with some graphics cards - eg S3 Savage [known working insofar as working when last put away]
- psu needs power cycling a few times to make the machine boot up after a lockup or bsod.
- machine reboots after a BAD POOL CALLER bsod when using Seamonkey to download files from oldapps.com. Googling indicates that the Seamonkey team or its community believe these errors are due to hardware faults.
- machine reboots after 1-2 minutes of prime95
- memtest86/memtest86+ crash with a variety of different errors after different periods of time with
different combinations of RAM sticks [ie 1 or other or both of each pair; the machine won't boot with mixing the pairs anyway]. Errors range from freezes with an all-grey screen; freezes with a rectangle of f's on the screen, stops with "Unexpected interrupt". Googling shows nothing of any use.
- all sorts of other bsods claiming problems with ntoskrnl usually but sometimes other things - eg atapi at least once.
Things I have discounted:
- It's probably not the PSU. ATX PSU voltages under load are within ATX specs, 12.45, 4.95, 3.3 volts. It's a decent quality PSU [FSP] that's hardly been used anyway.
- It's probably not the memory. Resetting the bios to "optimal defaults" I found I could run memtest86 with the single-sided RAM sticks for 30+ minutes without error .
- It's probably not the cpu's. After fixing the RAM problem, prime95 ran for 30 minutes+ without problems.
- It's probably not the NIC conflicting with the vga card. Seemed possible that it might be some irq problem so I put in a 3C905 so the vga was not sharing an irq with the NIC.
- The stuttering sound I have no idea about, never had this with the Santa Cruz previously. But it's not a directx issue as when I tried a Voodoo2 and running the game in Glide I still had the issue.
The most annoying remaining problem right now - other than what seems to be flakey compatibility and finickiness over what card you put where - is the reproducible bsod from Seamonkey. All I really have left on my list of suspects for this [given it doesn't seem to be ram, cpu or psu] is the motherboard or graphics card drivers. But it's NOT the 3dlabs drivers for the VP870 as I've uninstalled that and put in a Matrox G200, and I get the same problem.
I guess it could be a capacitor issue though putting the machine under load - whether prime95, 3dmark2001 or memtest86 - does not precipitate a crash. And I would have expected additional load to be associated with an increased likelihood of crashing.
So I suppose that leaves a possible basic incompatibility with Seamonkey, and some general motherboard malaise or finickiness.
Haven't been so sick of a motherboard since I used to use a PA-2013 with 95/NT4!
Anybody have pearls of wisdom to share, or similar experiences with this board?
EDIT: The seamonkey issue only seems to arise when the webpage tries to open a download link. Not in normal browsing [or forum posting].