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First post, by brostenen

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This weekend, I was able to get a hold on my parents old rig.
Well, their second rig they ever purchased.

This old machine, is an AT system, complete with the SB16-VibraS, some ATI-PCI Card with tv-out.
The processor is an Pentium-1 running 133 MHz, and the machine has 32 megabyte of memmory.
Cd-Drive and two 1 gigabyte harddrives.

The mobo.
Some sort of generic china board. All Intel chipset. P5I437 china-branded, and it spells foxxcon on the isa slots.
It has 4 ISA 16-bit slots and 4 or 3 pci slots.
It's got an Dallas RTC chip. (BIG minus)
It has 4 72-Pin memmory slots.
I can't say anything more about this board, other than it is working and it is clean from dust.

The GFX Card is an ATI rage of some sort (PCI), with tv-out. Both composit and s-vhs.

The soundcard is an Sound Blaster 16 Vibra S PNP

And finally, there is an netcard also ISA with bnc and Ethernet connection. Realtek of some sort (10 megabit i guess).

All mounted in a Tower or standard AT mini-tower case if you like.
And of course, they gave me the AT keyboard, as I do not have any keyboards with DIN-Connectors.

As a bonus, I was able to dig out a really great pile of manuals and installation disks (floppy and cdrom) for this machine.
None for the motherboard though. 🙁

Don't eat stuff off a 15 year old never cleaned cpu cooler.
Those cakes make you sick....

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Reply 1 of 25, by chinny22

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Cool, ok so the parts aren't anything to get excited about but the sentimental value makes up for that.
What you planning to do with it?

Reply 2 of 25, by AlphaWing

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Some Vibra's have YMF-262 opl-3 chips.
CT2800 is one such model, they lack software bass and treble controls tho like a normal SB16.
But are clean sounding.
Worth using if its one such.

Reply 3 of 25, by brostenen

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chinny22 wrote:

Cool, ok so the parts aren't anything to get excited about but the sentimental value makes up for that.
What you planning to do with it?

Just some gaming from mid 90's.
Yeah....
They are not that special, yet it fit' what i need for a nice system like the one I had back then.

Don't eat stuff off a 15 year old never cleaned cpu cooler.
Those cakes make you sick....

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Reply 4 of 25, by brostenen

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AlphaWing wrote:
Some Vibra's have YMF-262 opl-3 chips. CT2800 is one such model, they lack software bass and treble controls tho like a normal S […]
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Some Vibra's have YMF-262 opl-3 chips.
CT2800 is one such model, they lack software bass and treble controls tho like a normal SB16.
But are clean sounding.
Worth using if its one such.

Yes. Cleaner sound. The lack of treble and bass control could be Solved by a regulaer amplifier.
For the real good demo, gaming and tracker setup.
Only running DOS and OS/2 on my retro rigs.

Last edited by brostenen on 2014-06-09, 20:11. Edited 2 times in total.

Don't eat stuff off a 15 year old never cleaned cpu cooler.
Those cakes make you sick....

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Reply 5 of 25, by PeterLI

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You can usually find manuals online. I recommend installing a GM DB, PCB or module to increase MIDI playback in games (Duke Nukem 3D is an excellent example). 😀

Example: http://www.dba.dk/lydmodul-roland-sound-canv/id-1002133635.

Reply 6 of 25, by AlphaWing

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brostenen wrote:
Yes. Cleaner sound. The lack og treble and bass control could be Solved by a regulaer amplifier. For the real good demo, gaming […]
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AlphaWing wrote:
Some Vibra's have YMF-262 opl-3 chips. CT2800 is one such model, they lack software bass and treble controls tho like a normal S […]
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Some Vibra's have YMF-262 opl-3 chips.
CT2800 is one such model, they lack software bass and treble controls tho like a normal SB16.
But are clean sounding.
Worth using if its one such.

Yes. Cleaner sound. The lack og treble and bass control could be Solved by a regulaer amplifier.
For the real good demo, gaming and tracker Serup.
Only running DOS and OS/2 on my retro rigs.

Yea most of my retro stuff gets run into a RCA switch, then into my main gaming machine which has a sound blaster ZXR in it, which will then mirror the stereo, and whatever effects I want onto my backspeakers. Then its off to my receiver which is just a glorified amp at that point.
All analog. Don't care for 5.1 over Optical\Coaxial something always seems off.

Reply 7 of 25, by brostenen

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Well. I have to restore the machine first.
There is some unintetional grounding between the mobo and the casing.
Then I might install the GUS-ACE card. Just to get a nice at machine.

Don't eat stuff off a 15 year old never cleaned cpu cooler.
Those cakes make you sick....

My blog: http://to9xct.blogspot.dk
My YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/user/brostenen

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Reply 8 of 25, by brostenen

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PeterLI..... Are you Danish?

Don't eat stuff off a 15 year old never cleaned cpu cooler.
Those cakes make you sick....

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Reply 11 of 25, by brostenen

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AlphaWing wrote:
brostenen wrote:
Yes. Cleaner sound. The lack og treble and bass control could be Solved by a regulaer amplifier. For the real good demo, gaming […]
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AlphaWing wrote:
Some Vibra's have YMF-262 opl-3 chips. CT2800 is one such model, they lack software bass and treble controls tho like a normal S […]
Show full quote

Some Vibra's have YMF-262 opl-3 chips.
CT2800 is one such model, they lack software bass and treble controls tho like a normal SB16.
But are clean sounding.
Worth using if its one such.

Yes. Cleaner sound. The lack og treble and bass control could be Solved by a regulaer amplifier.
For the real good demo, gaming and tracker Serup.
Only running DOS and OS/2 on my retro rigs.

Yea most of my retro stuff gets run into a RCA switch, then into my main gaming machine which has a sound blaster ZXR in it, which will then mirror the stereo, and whatever effects I want onto my backspeakers. Then its off to my receiver which is just a glorified amp at that point.
All analog. Don't care for 5.1 over Optical\Coaxial something always seems off.

The card has an Yamaha OPL YMF262-M chip on it. Good or bad?

Don't eat stuff off a 15 year old never cleaned cpu cooler.
Those cakes make you sick....

My blog: http://to9xct.blogspot.dk
My YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/user/brostenen

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Reply 13 of 25, by brostenen

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AlphaWing wrote:

Good. I'd Keep it.

Sweet. I have just been restoring the machine, taking it apart and putting everything together.
Just need to post the pictures, as I still do not know what mobo it is.
Maby someone could recognise it.

Don't eat stuff off a 15 year old never cleaned cpu cooler.
Those cakes make you sick....

My blog: http://to9xct.blogspot.dk
My YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/user/brostenen

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Reply 14 of 25, by brostenen

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PeterLI wrote:

Nope. I lived in NO for a while so I understand written Danish: spoken not so much (Norwegian / Swedish: yes). 😀

Nice. I initally thought you came from Danmark.
Because you found that Roland module om a Danish site.

Don't eat stuff off a 15 year old never cleaned cpu cooler.
Those cakes make you sick....

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Reply 15 of 25, by brostenen

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I had some problems regarding the machine.
First, i tried a different harddrive. It did not work, so I mounted the original.
The board does not like 16 gigabyte harddrives.
I do not know why.

Second. The cdrom was dead so I mounted a DVD drive

Pictures will come. I just do not have time enough on my hands..

Don't eat stuff off a 15 year old never cleaned cpu cooler.
Those cakes make you sick....

My blog: http://to9xct.blogspot.dk
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Reply 18 of 25, by brostenen

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AlphaWing wrote:

Possible the machine can't see drives above 8gb without a software overlay, and those can be problematic.
Does it work with anything bigger then that?

This is not an option, as the boot-sequense would not get a clean run.
When it detects a 16 or 40 gig harddrive, then it will stay in a frozen position.
So I can not get the summary displayed when the computer starts to boot an operating system.

I might try my old CM-649 based ATA-100 pci raid card, to see if the onboard controller is the problem.
Or I might try some ATA-133 cables instead.

Don't eat stuff off a 15 year old never cleaned cpu cooler.
Those cakes make you sick....

My blog: http://to9xct.blogspot.dk
My YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/user/brostenen

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Reply 19 of 25, by AlphaWing

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Probably can't see drives above 8gb. My Packard Bell Pentium-120 is like that.
I just use a Dual-CF-IDE card reader, and 2 8gb industrial Transcend CF cards in it for a hard drive replacement.