Regarding the Radeon 7500, here is a photo of the one I have. I wrote the word "broken" on the fan, because I thought it was. I tried it in 2 slot 1 boards: Asus and Gigabyte. I got no POST. But the next day, I tried it in an Epox board, and it worked fine.

Something weird is going on with Everest home edition. I ran it, to look at the clock values. I clicked on the GPU option, and all the values were displayed in the right hand pane. I decided to increase the video card's screen resolution from 640x480 to something larger, so I could read the values better, and now when I click on the GPU option, I get a gray screen on the right hand side. I set the res back to 640x480, but I still see no values. I rebooted. Same problem. I get this a lot with Everest Home edition - I click on the GPU option, and see no values for it. Any ideas please people?

I found the legacy webpage for PowerStrip version 2.78 -

http://entechtaiwan.com/util/ps2.shtm

I haven't got the ATI Radeon 7500 in a mobo for testing at the moment, but I reckon this utility will tell me the core + memory clock speeds.

I'm not sure how you fubarred Everest, but I think you just need to resize the column widths.

swaaye wrote:

I'm not sure how you fubarred Everest, but I think you just need to resize the column widths.

This situation is odd. I can't actually resize anything - not the columns anyway. The whole right hand side info pane is a dark gray color. I've even tried installing Everest Ultimate - that does the same thing! I did think that some kind of windows display control is missing, so I ran sfc.exe, but that didn't come up with any missing files. It's odd, because all the other Everest info "tabs" work OK, just not the one I really need: the GPU tab.

I'm testing another ATI Radeon 7500, but this one is made by HiS, and it looks cheap. I ran Powerstrip v 2.78, and it says:

Graphics memory clock - 393 MHz
Graphics engine clock - 565 MHz

Is this wrong, or do I need to half these values, because I'm using an Epox mobo (133FSB -> 266FSB DDR)

It's certainly not running 393MHz core so something funky yup. 😁 Halving that sounds plausible.

On the RAM chips, you can figure out what the likely clock is by their timing rating. Usually the model number ends with a "- #" (the # being the inverse of the frequency (period in ms)).

1ms	  max frequency
212.0	83.3
311.5	87.0
411.0	90.9
510.5	95.2
610.0	100.0
79.5 	105.3
89.0 	111.1
98.5 	117.6
108.0 	125.0
117.5 	133.3
127.0 	142.9
136.5 	153.8
146.0 	166.7
155.5	 181.8
165.0 	200.0
174.5 	222.2
184.0 	250.0
193.5 	285.7
203.0 	333.3
212.5 	400.0
222.0	 500.0
231.5	 666.7
241.0	 1000.0
250.5	 2000.0

Is this wrong, or do I need to half these values, because I'm using an Epox mobo (133FSB -> 266FSB DDR)

No, FSB speed has nothing to do with it. The problem there seems to be that Powerstrip has no idea what's going on. Try GPU-z, see if it recognizes your card. (I'm not sure if it supports cards that far back or not...)

This is odd. Powerstrip says:

Graphics chipset - Rage128 Pro VR (Rev. 00)
Memory type - 65536 kb SDRAM
Data bus size - 64-bit

EDIT: I DL'd GPU-Z earlier today! Unfortunately, it doesn't work on Win98.

I checked the RAM chips for the timing value. It says -5B. So, that means: 5ms = 200 MHz. It's interesting, because Powerstrip's peculiar reading of 393.3 MHz is almost twice 200 MHz...

Edit: I tried uninstalling then reinstalling Powerstrip, but it still reports the same readings. I also tried reinstalling the Win98 unofficial service pack, just to see if that would miraculously fix Everest, but no joy.

I wouldn't be surprised if it was at half that clock then as that's ~200 MHz.

Tis a shame that Everest is all messed up! 😀

Here's an experiment - I've just run 3DMark 99 Max with this cheap 7500, and I get:

4570 3DMarks, 13038 CPU 3DMarks

That's using an Epox mobo, with a mobile barton CPU running at just 600mhz. Now all I'll do is swap out the 7500, and replace it with a "proper" 7500, as pictured earlier. I'll do this either now, or first thing in the morning, then "edit back" with the results...

Re: Everest - there must be some kind of windows controls clash with another piece of installed software that I regularly use with Win98, because this has happened many many times before with my testing.

I've finished my testing, from the post above. I've tried to go back on topic by including a GF4 MX440 card. It looks like a budget design, a bit like the cheap looking 7500.

1) Cheap 7500 - 4570 3DMarks
2) "Proper" 7500 - 4959 3DMarks
3) Cheap GF4 MX440 - 6329 3DMarks
EDIT: Added 4th card: Radeon 8500 - 5624 3DMarks.

With the "proper" 7500 installed, Powerstrip tells me that the Memory clock = 501.5 MHz, Engine clock = 634.2 MHz. It's really unfortunate Everest isn't working on my HDD at the moment. Sometimes I wish I had a Windows XP test box, just to be able to run other utilities. Incidentally, the general image quality from the cheap 7500, using the DVI->VGA adapter was poor. It seems that Powerstrip isn't behaving itself, because it thinks the GF4 MX440 is a Geforce 256 card.

powerstrip 2.78 (the last version of it for win9x) is too old to understand newer vga's.... the damned thing can't even DCC correctly a 16:9 monitor, and it only reports 4:3 resolutions and nothing more 🤣
it is just old software...