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Advice on upgrading a socket A platform.

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Reply 20 of 39, by Nahkri

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I bought this mb http://www.ecs.com.tw/ECSWebSite/Product/Prod … agment-Download it comes with a 3200 proc not sure what model and a cooler.

I'll prolly want to upgrade the proc to a faster athlon 64 or a 64 x2,is there a way to visually differenciate socket 754,socket 939 and socket am2 procs? couse they all look the same to me.

Reply 21 of 39, by obobskivich

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754 and 939/AM2 look noticeably different; 939 and AM2 have different key locations to prevent installing the wrong chip in the wrong board.

Reply 22 of 39, by Nahkri

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I found an easier way,by reading the opn number on the processor,if the first letter after the proc rating is D ,then it's for socket 939.

Reply 23 of 39, by Nahkri

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Got the new board installed:

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It came with a Athlon 64 3200,Venice core.

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I overclocked it a litte,the entire system feels faster now.

Reply 24 of 39, by Half-Saint

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You should definitely consider throwing in another 1GB of RAM, if at all possible.

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Reply 25 of 39, by Nahkri

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Will do as soon as i change the power supply,opened it up for cleaning and 2 of the caps are bulged and have some dried up residue on top,i,m amazed it still works tbh.

Reply 26 of 39, by obobskivich

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Looks nice! I'd agree with another 1GB of RAM (or more) depending on what your goals are. Also - what an odd place for SATA connectors.

Reply 27 of 39, by Nahkri

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obobskivich wrote:

Also - what an odd place for SATA connectors.

Well it's a ECS board after all.

I have 1 problem,the motherboard reports the temperature of the cpu to be around 53 degrees celsius,which is a bit high,i touched the cooler and it's only slightly warm,i'm using the stock cooler with arctic silver 5 thermal compound.
After installing hwmonitor and coretemp they both show me that the core temperature is actually much lower and what the motherboard reports to be at 53 degrees is actually the tcase max temp.
So which 1 is the important 1?should i worry about the higher tcase temp or is it normal?

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Reply 28 of 39, by F2bnp

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CoreTemp is much more reliable 😀.

Reply 29 of 39, by obobskivich

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CPU temperature diodes aren't models of accuracy especially at lower temps; what the board might be reporting though is basically "remaining headroom" which is more useful than coretemp (basically its max temp-current temp to give you a value). Intel CPUs starting around this era implemented that feature; I don't know if the Athlon64 also has it.

Reply 30 of 39, by Half-Saint

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Having a case temperature around 53C sounds very very weird. Isn't it usually the other way around?

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Reply 31 of 39, by obobskivich

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Half-Saint wrote:

Having a case temperature around 53C sounds very very weird. Isn't it usually the other way around?

Note that it isn't reporting "case temperature" (board ambient) - it's reporting "TCase."

Reply 32 of 39, by Nahkri

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Installed another gig of ram,after the upgrades i made so far 480p flash is fluent,720p is ok-ish,what would be a better option to upgrade the proc to a athlon 64 x2 or the videocard to a radeon hd 4650 or 4670 agp,since both allow gpu flash acceleration?

Reply 34 of 39, by Nahkri

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I encountered a weird thing on this build,i replaced the 7600 gs agp 512 mb ram videocard,with a 9600 pro agp 128mb ram videocard.
With the radeon card the memory test in the post screen it's a couple of seconds faster then with the gs and i wonder why?

Reply 35 of 39, by meljor

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The jetway ss7 surprised me, it is a very good board.

I have a core2duo asrock board with agp. Runs great and way faster than my 939 dualcore setup.

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Reply 36 of 39, by fyy

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*edit*
Nevermind I didn't see you say it came with a single core. Going to keep my original post in place though
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So you upgraded socket A by buying a socket 939 and a single core?? You make this baby Core 2 Duo sad. He's looking for a good home. 😒 Why didn't you go with 775 and a Core2, or if you insist on 939 atleast a dual core? They have to be dirt cheap. What about this guy?

By the way, there are 775 Frankenstein motherboards, I have this guy, a 775Dual-VSTA:

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It has:
PCIe (at 4x)
AGP
DDR1 (max 2gigs)
DDR2 (max 2 gigs, but I have a modded bios for max 3gigs)
SATA (SATA1)
IDE

It's an interesting board.

Reply 37 of 39, by BSA Starfire

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I have one of these ASROCK 775i65G rev 2.0 http://www.asrock.com/mb/Intel/775i65G%20R2.0/?cat=CPU

Great little board, runs anything from a prescott P4, cedar mill, smithfield, presler, conroe etc. intel 865 was a good solid chipset.

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Reply 38 of 39, by Nahkri

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fyy wrote:

So you upgraded socket A by buying a socket 939 and a single core?? You make this baby Core 2 Duo sad. He's looking for a good home. 😒 Why didn't you go with 775 and a Core2, or if you insist on 939 atleast a dual core? They have to be dirt cheap. What about this guy?

It was cheaper to go 939,finding a 775 board with agp and core 2 duo support was too expensive.Plus i skipped the Athlon 64 generation so i kina wanted to have 1.
Also 939 X2 processor are pretty expensive,the one in the link is socket am2 those are dirt cheap.

Reply 39 of 39, by brassicGamer

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Space Cowboy wrote:

ECS K7S5A and L7S7A2 - both socket A boards - both legendary amongst overclockers.

This site is so awesome. Whenever I pick up something new (I mean something old) I search these forums first. So after I picked up an old Athlon system for free a few weeks back, I didn't think much of the ECS mobo lurking inside. My opinion had now somewhat changed 😀

I think my favourite feature of it is that it will take SDRAM or DDR, something my old socket 478 can't do. Thanks for the tip!

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