Tetrium wrote:I apologize for the possible derail, but I just wanted to mention that the whole ordeal about HD4670 or HD3850 being the fastest […]
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I apologize for the possible derail, but I just wanted to mention that the whole ordeal about HD4670 or HD3850 being the fastest..don't both have their own niche anyway? And besides the vast majority of AGP motherboards that can actually take these cards will end up being too slow for both the HD4670 and the HD3850 anyway.
I do think it's an interesting discussion though 😊
Btw, there are also different kinds of HD3850 and HD4670 cards, my HD4670 having somewhat slower memory compared to which I think was the HD4670 AGP made by HIS?
So lumping all of these cards onto a single stack wouldn't really make a lot of sense I think since both cards perform so similar when compared to well...basically all other GAP cards out there 🤣
Everyone knows that most of AGP based systems, MB/CPU will be not able to use even an x1950 Pro AGP to its full potential. The thing here is only about the 2 cards, bcuz i have seen many people to talk that HD4670 is the fastest card, while it is not, and the HD3850 is the fastest AGP card, it was about that.
HIS cards seems to be one of the best build out there, also MSI on x1950 Pro is very well made, while Sapphire is lacking things, and the cooler is total trash...
Agent 007 seems you have the best cards from HIS nice, as i see them to be the better ones, too bad i did lost my chance to buy HIS HD4670 AGP...
And this is the MSI card...
feipoa wrote:Lots of drama in here; feels like modern politics. My line of thought is similar to Tetrium's. 92 fps vs. 61 fps, and 33 fps vs. 26 fps in a game wouldn't matter to me either way. I haven't heard the argument that synthetic benchmarks are more credible than actual game play though. I think a broader range of games and platforms would be of interest though. I normally don't read into these 'more modern' topics, but I happen to use an Asrock board with a lowly ATI HD4350 AGP. Its an Asrock dual sata2 with Opteron 185 (like a dual-core Athlon64 X2 2.6 GHz). This is my most modern desktop. The board was pretty flakey until I recapped it and replaced the HDD with something modern (2TB hybrid drive). I'm not sure if this board falls into your junk category, but runs 24/7 without issue for my needs. I think the processor upgrade card idea was to keep the consumer using their products longer. Interesting concept, but I've never bothered finding the AM2 upgrade card.
Well if for you recapping of all capas on the board mean quality............ Meanwhile i will just buy ABIT based board that have 100% japan capacitors that will not need recap even in the next 20 or so years or even more. Trash brands means when the products does not have
1 quality of components
2 OC capabilities, components
3 BIOS with wide range of settings
4 nice visuals, style, looks
5 more connectors, RAID or other
A good product need to have at least, i repeat at least one of all that point, or even 2 of them, otherwise is just junk that someone did spend resources on it..
Yes ASRock have the upgrade cards thing, and that is the only positive thing on them, but if i will need to recap the whole damn board no thanks i will just blacklist them and send them to hell with their pile of crap..
Mah systems retro, old, newer (Radical stuff)
W3680 4.5/ GA-x58 UD7/ R9 280x
K7 2.6/ NF7-S/ HD3850
IBM x2 P3 933/ GA-6VXD7/ Voodoo V 5.5K
Cmq P2 450/ GA-BX2000/ V2 SLI
IBM PC365
Cmq DeskPRO 486/33
IBM PS/2 Model 56
SPS IntelleXT 8088