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Reply 21680 of 54980, by cyclone3d

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derSammler wrote:

No, they get removed for their scrap value. Also, when recycling such cards, you have to remove them anyway, just like fans, heatsinks, and other foreign matter.

This is true. I have also seen listing where they say they can fit more in a box if they remove the brackets... and this makes sense as well.

The seller messaged me back pretty quickly and said that the brackets had already been sent to the metal recycler. Oh well.

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Reply 21681 of 54980, by cyclone3d

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Anybody recognize this video card? I have it on the way with a few other cards.

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Yes, the pictures are absolutely horrible, but from what I can gather from the seller and from guessing, the silsckreen above the heatsinks says Appian Graphics.
I am unable to find any Appian Graphics card pictures that look like this card or any other video cards that look like this. Maybe my google-fu has finally failed me, but I kinda doubt it.

The other information on the card, per the seller is:
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HB1-SE33P
PCI BRIDGE
B 0049

ETMA 30759 (this is another indication that it is an Appian Graphics card, but this model number seems to not exist)
S/N 0219

I am guessing the outputs are a couple of DMS-59, but am really curious as to the amount of RAM and the graphics chips.

EDIT: Found it. It is an Appian Graphics AppianX (AGX1)
http://vgamuseum.ru/gpu/3dlabs/appian-appianx-agx1/

The specs from different places are all over the place. The silicon image chips indicate that it supports 4 monitors and another place on the same page shows a different part number that says only two monitors. Maybe there were two different versions of the card.

The graphics chips use licensed 3dLabs Permedia tech.

There is also an S-Video input.

EDIT2: Another really interesting thing I found out when doing research is that Appian was Aquired by Colorgraphic in 2001, and the same year ATI aquired Hydravision as well as the Hydravision team from Appian... hello virtual desktops for ATI cards. I never knew that it was an aquired and not in-house technology.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Appian_Graphics

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Reply 21682 of 54980, by blurks

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Celebrating 20 years of Windows 98...

Reply 21683 of 54980, by bjwil1991

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"That must be uh... That must be why we're not shipping Windows 98 yet." - Bill Gates after the BSOD during the Windows 98 presentation.

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Reply 21684 of 54980, by liqmat

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blurks wrote:

Celebrating 20 years of Windows 98...

And just think, it's 88 versions more advanced than Windows 10.

Reply 21686 of 54980, by bjwil1991

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And 90 versions more advanced than Windows 8, 91 versions more advanced than Windows 7, and 89.9 versions more advanced than Windows 8.1

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Reply 21687 of 54980, by cyclone3d

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bjwil1991 wrote:

And 90 versions more advanced than Windows 8, 91 versions more advanced than Windows 7, and 89.9 versions more advanced than Windows 8.1

We could do this with ATI/AMD and Nvidia video card model numbers as well.

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Reply 21688 of 54980, by dionb

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cyclone3d wrote:
bjwil1991 wrote:

And 90 versions more advanced than Windows 8, 91 versions more advanced than Windows 7, and 89.9 versions more advanced than Windows 8.1

We could do this with ATI/AMD and Nvidia video card model numbers as well.

Then Creative wins with their EMU10k 😉

Reply 21689 of 54980, by chose007

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finally got my first EISA VGA card S3 928 by Miro

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Reply 21690 of 54980, by liqmat

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dionb wrote:
cyclone3d wrote:
bjwil1991 wrote:

And 90 versions more advanced than Windows 8, 91 versions more advanced than Windows 7, and 89.9 versions more advanced than Windows 8.1

We could do this with ATI/AMD and Nvidia video card model numbers as well.

Then Creative wins with their EMU10k 😉

Let us not forget about the most powerful operating system never developed. Hamilton 95.

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Reply 21691 of 54980, by Batyra

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Got a few things today:

Quantum3D Obsidian2 SLI2
Two Voodoo 2 12MB on one PCI card
It comes with Medusa Cable

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ARK 1000PV - my favorite DOS graphic card producer
one of fastest dos cards

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Blue SDRAM PC133 128MB
(got 4 of theese)
For my blue build on GA-BX2000PV

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Reply 21692 of 54980, by Anonymous Coward

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chose007 wrote:
finally got my first EISA VGA card S3 928 by Miro […]
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finally got my first EISA VGA card S3 928 by Miro

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Nice card. Very similar to the ELSA Winner 2000, but without extra ISA interface. I kind of wish I hadn't traded mine away.

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Reply 21693 of 54980, by Radical Vision

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Batyra wrote:
Got a few things today: […]
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Got a few things today:

Quantum3D Obsidian2 SLI2
Two Voodoo 2 12MB on one PCI card
It comes with Medusa Cable

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The hell where did you find this Quantum 3D...
I bet you did pay a lot for it, or maybe you got extremely lucky and the owner did not have a clue what this is..

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Reply 21694 of 54980, by Batyra

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A fellow vogoner help me to find seller. Owner new what he is selling but the price was atractive, so I didn't event thought twice.
It will be a part for my win98 buld. as I needed one PCI slot for network card... I also needed SLI - so this was the best way... now 3PCI are full and 4ISA are used too.

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Reply 21695 of 54980, by Wireless

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Wow, took a month to be processed by UK Customs, but it's finally here

My 286 Motherboard, a BIOSTAR MB-1216VE

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The chipset, with 286-16 and 287-6 fitted

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I'm thinking about it, I have a 286-25, not sure the 287-6 or the rest of the board components would work with it

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This has to be my poorest attempt at a closeup, it's supposed to be the 287-6

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The 286 ISA BIOS

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Already swapped out the 1MB of RAM for 4MB, but this may be overkill, I've no other components to work with this board yet, so it's a future project.

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Reply 21696 of 54980, by derSammler

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The 287 should be no problem, as you can fit a separate quartz oscillator for it. No idea about the chipset, though. I have that board as well, but without "VE". Mine has a HT12 instead of that VLSI chip.

Reply 21697 of 54980, by bjwil1991

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I'd remove the NiCd battery, if I were you. Those things can destroy a motherboard from 0 to 10ns.

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Reply 21698 of 54980, by kixs

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If you want to run Harris 25 at 25MHz you will have to replace the clock oscillator for 50MHz one. Now 32MHz is installed. Maybe put a socket first so you can swap them as you wish.

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Reply 21699 of 54980, by dionb

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Spotted an offer I couldn't refuse:

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An HP T5500 thin client with a Transmeta TM5800 733MHz Crusoe CPU.

Originally this thing ran WinCE, but it seems you can get it to boot Linux as well. Added bonus: despite somewhat odd PCI slot placement this is basically an mITX board, so I can easily transfer to another case if I so desire.