Sphere478 wrote on 2022-03-13, 03:49:

Sometimes windows 9x will crash once, then second time your try it works. Seems like mine does that whenever I change hardware. Maybe try and make sure it’s crashing twice in a row?

I’m not exactly sure what you mean. On the Pentium it now boots into the old copy of Win95 that I had previously installed every time. However, with that chip, trying to launch the Win95 installer hangs every time and requires a hard reboot. Trying it again once the computer comes back up, it hangs again in the exact same place,

Removing unneeded cards made no difference with setup, and the Windows 98SE setup fails in basically the same spot:

Please wait while Setup initializes.
Scanning system registry...

And then just hangs forever.

Okay, I unplugged the CF card I was using as a main drive and let it use whatever other disk is in there, and now setup seems to work correctly?

For the heck of it, I swapped the PNY chip back in, and got a sudden reboot after the first prompt in the setup. I’m starting to think I’ve just got a bad chip.

New problem, the installation of 98SE finished apparently successfully, but now I get this error on every boot…

Sunoo wrote on 2022-03-13, 13:32:

Sphere478 wrote on 2022-03-13, 03:49:

Sometimes windows 9x will crash once, then second time your try it works. Seems like mine does that whenever I change hardware. Maybe try and make sure it’s crashing twice in a row?

I’m not exactly sure what you mean. On the Pentium it now boots into the old copy of Win95 that I had previously installed every time. However, with that chip, trying to launch the Win95 installer hangs every time and requires a hard reboot. Trying it again once the computer comes back up, it hangs again in the exact same place,

Yeah installer prob will each time. I was talking about a installed copy.

Oh I’ve had tonnes of issues with adapters on IDE good call with the normal hdd. Cf adapters “issues”, sata adapters “issues”

You could consider a promise sata II tx4 card and sata drives

At this point, I’ve managed to get it working the same as how it was before I messed with it, so I’ll stop fiddling with most of that for now. I’m assuming the PNY chip I have is either faulty or otherwise incompatible with my machine.

I was considering grabbing a Promise SATA card, but last time I looked only the RAID versions seemed to be around.

As for the CPU upgrade, looks like 200-ish MHz MMX chips are only like $10, I might grab one and run it briefly, just to see if it works at all. If it works, I’d assume one of the more expensive, less common adapters like the one you linked earlier would likely also work. If it doesn’t work, it’s probably not worth risking the money on one of them.

Sunoo wrote on 2022-03-13, 19:45:

At this point, I’ve managed to get it working the same as how it was before I messed with it, so I’ll stop fiddling with most of that for now. I’m assuming the PNY chip I have is either faulty or otherwise incompatible with my machine.

I was considering grabbing a Promise SATA card, but last time I looked only the RAID versions seemed to be around.

As for the CPU upgrade, looks like 200-ish MHz MMX chips are only like $10, I might grab one and run it briefly, just to see if it works at all. If it works, I’d assume one of the more expensive, less common adapters like the one you linked earlier would likely also work. If it doesn’t work, it’s probably not worth risking the money on one of them.

For a 3.3v setup you need a mmx overdrive. Not a regular mmx. Unless you get that cpu upgrade adapter, then you can plug it into the adapter.

People have made them work but it’s not what they were designed for that’s a half volt overvolt.

https://www.cpu-world.com/CPUs/Pentium/TYPE-P … 0overdrive.html
These are the proper mmx chips for socket 5

I’m aware, but I imagine it’d survive the few minutes it would take to confirm my board seemed to be compatible at all before I dropped the money on an Overdrive or Spectra or something.

Sunoo wrote on 2022-03-13, 21:55:

I’m aware, but I imagine it’d survive the few minutes it would take to confirm my board seemed to be compatible at all before I dropped the money on an Overdrive or Spectra or something.

Your call 😀

See edit^

I don’t wanna burn out vintage chips, but I also don’t wanna drop a pile of money on another chip just to find out my board is apparently extremely picky. So this seems like a cheap way to learn more information.

Some links I see that may be of interest.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/144457387612?hash=it … AsAAOSwsNBiK5~P

https://www.ebay.com/itm/194587220915?hash=it … vUAAOSwst1hrtHc

https://www.ebay.com/itm/233758283496?hash=it … YoAAOSwTbBfoOmd

(Quantity of 3 ea)
https://www.ebay.com/itm/274825467551?hash=it … -8AAOSwvYNgvk3V

The fastest is the adapter and the 2+

You can unlock the 2+ into a 3+
(If you watch ebay unlocked ones will pop up also from time to time)

Yea, but what if those don’t work in my board? I’m reluctant to gamble $200-300 to find out how picky it is.

Sphere478 wrote on 2022-03-13, 19:07:

You could consider a promise sata II tx4 card and sata drives

Wait, I was under the impression that the SATA II only worked on XP or newer. Are there Win9x drivers for them somewhere?

Sunoo wrote on 2022-03-13, 22:26:

Yea, but what if those don’t work in my board? I’m reluctant to gamble $200-300 to find out how picky it is.

Sphere478 wrote on 2022-03-13, 19:07:

You could consider a promise sata II tx4 card and sata drives

Wait, I was under the impression that the SATA II only worked on XP or newer. Are there Win9x drivers for them somewhere?

It should. You’ll also want to talk to Jan about a updated bios. (I think I mentioned earlier)

I’ve used that card with 98 and ME

The k6 233 is a excellent budget option for socket 5 being a 3.3v cpu.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/384773226000?hash=it … SoAAOSwUmZiKEkY

Unless I’m mistaken, that looks like it has the Socket 7 pin on it though? So wouldn’t I still need some sort of adapter, even if I don’t need the voltage conversion?

Good catch, options are make a hole, cut pin. (It’s a n/c key pin)

Did a little reading, a interesting point someone brought up is wether or not the boards fet can keep up. It’s a 3.2/3.3v cpu. So should be fine at 3.3v but it seems it uses like 10 more watts than a 166. Which isn’t much.

I’ve heard of several people who have done this before without issues, it’s why I brought it up. Personally I always go for the k6-2/3+ chip route.

I forgot about that pin though. Obviously the other people who have done it cut it, or made a hole.

I can make a thread and collect opinions for your information one sec 😀

Thoughts on k6-233 on socket 5

Edit: you may be able to use your pny adapter to do something similar to what was mentioned in the thread.

Some reading:

Socket 7 PowerLeap PL-K6-III (ultimate upgrade)

Kingston TurboChip socket 7 voltage regulator related questions