Not in my country. They are not easly to find here. Specially the PCI version..

DonutKing wrote:

what's special about it? just seems like a PCI voodoo banshee?

Banshees can be a collection unto themselves because there were so many different ones produced. There were Banshee models released in Asia that weren't released anywhere else so collecting them all can be difficult if you are in N. America or Europe.

Robin4 wrote:

Not in my country. They are not easly to find here. Specially the PCI version..

I kinda noticed the same thing, I've seen way more V3's in the flesh then I have seen Banshees. I have only 1 in my stash and it's AGP.

Yes indeed, V3 could you find very easy in this country iam living in.

I upgraded my 2 fastest Slot A Athlons from 850 K7/900 T-bird to 950 K7/950 T-Bird.

Also got an Evergreen Spectra upgrade with a K6-2 450 in it to put into a socket 7 system.

And a Pentium Overdrive with MMX 180 still sealed in the original box.

I don't even have $75 in the whole lot and that includes shipping from 4 different people.

I scavenged some old PCs in the scrap pile at work today, and I not so much bought but acquired (legally) several pieces to beef up my CPU collection.

I got:
AMD 80286-12
Intel 386DX-33 IV (Some bent pins)
i486SX-33 (Surface mount on a socket PCB)
i486DX2-66 Write Back Cache
Pentium 100
Pentium 166MMX (Ceramic)
Pentium 200 P54C
Pentium 166MMX (Fiber)
Cyrix 6x86L-PR200+GP (I already had the IBM version of this, but still cool)
IBM 6x86MX PR300
Cyrix MII 366
AMD K6-2 38L3054 (No speed actually marked, but it's an OEM 337MHz, 4.5x75MHz originally made for IBM). Somebody wrote on it, but hoping to find away to clean off the marker.
AMD Duron 850
AMD Athlon 1333 (Thunderbird)
AMD Athlon XP 2100+ (Palomino)
AMD Sempron 2200+ (Thoroughbred)
Pentium 4 1.5 (Socket 423)
Pentium 4 2.0A (Socket 478)
Celeron 2.0
And lastly, an Athlon 64 2800+ S754 (NewCastle)

I also got a Trident 8900D ISA card to stick in my TI486DLC-40 system I rebuilt this week as well.

I've been scavenging chips for weeks, finally asked if I could buy them... My boss thought I was odd for wanting a slew of old chips (and several with lots of Gold Plating), but after telling him I wanted to add them to my collection and didn't want them for metal value, he just gave them to me... though he gave me a hard time over the MII 😜

The Pentium 200 is nice. They are somewhat rare as nobody in their right mind went for this one (double the cost of the 166) and then the MMX range came out anyway.

I like the Socket 423 Pentium 4. I always found those things to be plain goofy with the PCB on PCB geddup.

That black top Cyrix is "high tech" looking but the text, really? Why do they use lame fonts on almost all CPUs? The intel's i386 and i486 logos are kinda cool looking and the one Cyrix 6x86 is interesting to look at.

Mau1wurf1977 wrote:

The Pentium 200 is nice. They are somewhat rare as nobody in their right mind went for this one (double the cost of the 166) and then the MMX range came out anyway.

I bought a P166 MMX back int the day and overclocked it it to 200 within hours of installing it. Saved a good chunk of money like you said.

Mau1wurf1977 wrote:

The Pentium 200 is nice. They are somewhat rare as nobody in their right mind went for this one (double the cost of the 166) and then the MMX range came out anyway.

There were more of those installed in OEM boxes than sold at retail. They were rare on the used market for a long time and commanded high prices until the OEM boxes most of them were installed in went for scrap then the market was flooded with them.

I remember that the i200's (the non-mmx pentiums) were ALWAYS in demand. Because they are the fastest chip you could run in SMP. the mmx chips could NOT, nor could any other socket 7 chip. So I always wanted to save them. I have a dual socket 7 board right now that needs a pair of 200's. I have 166's in it right now and they run fine @ 200 but if I ever find a nice cheap pair of 200's i'd like to "upgrade"

sliderider wrote:

There were more of those installed in OEM boxes than sold at retail. They were rare on the used market for a long time and commanded high prices until the OEM boxes most of them were installed in went for scrap then the market was flooded with them.

Yea that makes a lot of sense. I remember when I was a kid I had a Gigabyte board and a Pentium 133. Unfortunately it wasn't compatible with MMX. Getting a 166 wasn't worth it, overclocking to 166 wasn't stable either and buying the 200 was totally out of reach.

So I stuck it out and when the PII came out I got one of the very first models with a PII-300.

sliderider wrote:

Mau1wurf1977 wrote:

The Pentium 200 is nice. They are somewhat rare as nobody in their right mind went for this one (double the cost of the 166) and then the MMX range came out anyway.

There were more of those installed in OEM boxes than sold at retail. They were rare on the used market for a long time and commanded high prices until the OEM boxes most of them were installed in went for scrap then the market was flooded with them.

I pulled the P200 from an archaic file server in a Fulltower case (ATX even). I believe P200 and the MMX's were produced concurrently, while MMX was good for games and Adobe products, that's stuff that servers didn't need to run and the P200 was a cheaper alternative to Pentium Pro. Plus they were the fastest chip that could run on Socket 5/7 boards without the split power planes. Now the majority of those boxes have been sent to Recycling/Landfills, so there's lots around, but probably still not as common as a P133 would be or something.

luckybob wrote:

I have 166's in it right now and they run fine @ 200 but if I ever find a nice cheap pair of 200's i'd like to "upgrade"

I think there's a couple more of those chips at work in one of the drawers. I'll have to look next time I'm in.

GXL750 wrote:

I like the Socket 423 Pentium 4. I always found those things to be plain goofy with the PCB on PCB geddup.

That's true, I thought they were weird looking when I first saw them, the heatspreader isn't even centered. From what I've seen, the earliest engineering samples of the P4 were chips that made use of the packages full available surface area, but by the time they were launched they'd been moved to a smaller package mounted on an adapter. Makes me wonder why they never launched them using a smaller socket in the first place, maybe they didn't want to throw away the existing designs so close to launch. I used to have a P4 1.7 423 system with 4x256 PC800 Rambus I bought used. Noisy as heck but I miss that thing. I also found an adapter at work for mounting a 478 chip on a 423 board, but my Boss wants that for the stores museum.

bushwack wrote:

That black top Cyrix is "high tech" looking but the text, really? Why do they use lame fonts on almost all CPUs? The intel's i386 and i486 logos are kinda cool looking and the one Cyrix 6x86 is interesting to look at.

I really like the graphics they put on the 3/486's and the Cyrix chips, but IBM seems to have just mailed it in or something. the Cyrix 6x86 logo is just awesome... something you just don't see these days. The Blacktop Cyrix/IBM is still neat though, the heatspreader is just a flat piece of metal glued to the CPU Die, so you can see under it at the die and resistors. The Die itself is about the size of a TBird Athlon, maybe a Duron.

Santa was a little late this year for me.. But when he was on my doorstep.. He said; Hello is there anybody at home.. ho ho ho ho...
But on that time i was in my bed. He had some nice music in his slee. So i woke up. Still the santa said; ho ho ho ho. Then i opened up the door. I said he silly man, what are you doing over here.. He said i couldnt find your home this year, because i lost my GPS device.. And i had to struggle trought a heavy snow storm.. But now iam arrived at your door.. And i have a really big bag with me.. Then he said, where can i drop the stuff.. I said leave it on the seat..
And then i go to back in bed.. After that i came out a looked to what i have gotting...

7 wonders + from santa..

Thats a really big flat!

What i found in the boxes:

2 x manuals in new state

2x ATI magnet boxes (i think)

2x 4 sets of floppy disks V2.2

2x Some kind of adveroltisment stuff

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7 wonders + from santa..

Did they have the Cards in them, or just the boxes? Still that's an awesome find, someone looking to complete a VGA Wonder with the box and everything would jump on the chance to own one of those. Plus the disk is there to make an image of the original install disk. Cool!

So what's so cool about the VGA wonder? sounds pretty good. Is it one of these with TV tuner?

Mau1wurf1977 wrote:

So what's so cool about the VGA wonder? sounds pretty good. Is it one of these with TV tuner?

I think it has dual BIOS chips and 9 pin CGA compatibility in addition to 15 pin VGA. The one I have that is similar to his is not a Wonder+, but something else on the same board as it is missing the 9 pin port and the labels on the BIOS chips are different. The one I was thinking was a Wonder+ was the half height one because I saw a picture of one that said it was the Wonder+ unless they had different variants.

Interesting...

That reminds me I still have to get a US Geforce (Like a MX400) because I would like NTSC output from the S-Video port under DOS. The other option is to flash a US Bios, or change the PAL/NTSC flag, but last time I checked I couldn't find a flash utility that's old enough for these cards...

Yes all the boxes has one Wonder+ in it. In only 2 boxes the bus mouse are missing, but thats not a problem for me..

These arent not the same with TV tuner, when they where released in 1999..
These wonder+ are older ones.. They came out in 1990..

What is special about it?? Its just the BEST VGA card available for its time.. There werent better ones.. These cards are specially made because they where a cheaper alternatives for the normal CAD graphic cards.. And they where expensive.. In that time you couldnt do more then 320X480 or so.. in resolution.
If you upgrade those cards, they do 1024x786 in 256 color mode.. (this setting was only available when the 80486 / pentium arrives..

And these card can do, HARDWARE MDA, CGA, EGA, VGA on a D-SuB connector! So you dont need a 9pins monitor for it..

You will never find these card for the prices i paid for.. There where still in orginal boxes, with drivers.. and manuals and stuff..

Its a one change in a million you will find those too in this state..

That's pretty awesome, I'd love to have one of those VGA Wonder+'s card only someday. Closest thing I've got is an EGA Wonder and a Basic-16.

I made a few more acquisitions over the last week for my CPU collection, some uncommon ones that are pretty cool, though not as retro as some that were in my last haul.

Athlon 550. First issue Argon core, but with a normal "AMD Athlon" labeling.
Pentium 4 Xeon 2800 (Socket 604)
K6 233 "ANR" (3.2v Core)
K6-2 333MHz "AFR" 2.2v - This one was weird to find since I pulled it from a Dead Laptop, wonder if it's the embedded version since they're not independently marked.
Mobile Celeron 500 (Coppermine-128 - Socket 496)
Pentium M 760 2.0GHz (Socket 479)
Celeron M 370 1.5GHz (Socket 479)
Athlon XP-M 2600+ (Socket 563)
Celeron 466 (Mendocino)
Pentium III 1GHz 133x7.5 (SL52R)
Celeron 800 (Coppermine-128)
Celeron 1300 (Tualatin-256)
Athlon XP 2000+ (Thorton)

The next 3 I got because I'm trying to see if I can get an AOpen Socket 370 board running on a 133 FSB CPU. The board information says 100MHz only but there are BIOS options for 133 as well as BIOS strings for 133 chips. I managed to get a P3 650 to POST at 866 (It won't let me change the multiplyer) ever so briefly before the system locked up. The Above mentioned P3-1GHz didn't work, but the 'SL52R' production date is later than the BIOS of the board and may not be recognized, plus theres rumours of the board not working right with anything faster than 800. So to try I got:
Pentium III 1GHz (SL4C8)
Pentium III 800EB (SL464)
Pentium III 733 (SL4CG)
Hopefully at least the 733 works, as I bought a VIA C3 733 off eBay that I'm hoping will work but requires the 133 FSB, otherwise it's new board time.
Edit: This didn't work. Darnit.

Also got a Slot 1 Celeron 300A Mendocino. And a 24x CDROM for a Thinkpad A20m I'm trying to rebuild.