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Reply 8700 of 53149, by Indrid Cold

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The other day, before going to work, I came across my last dumpster finding: an (almost) full PC, which literally reeked of cat piss, but to my delight still containing something good (after a good clean)...

- Gygabyte GA-7n400 Pro2 (a capacitor seemsto be deformed, right below the AGP, but I have to test)
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- Athlon XP 2400+
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- 2GB DDR400 Kingston RAM
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- ATI HD4560 AGP with folded bracket I've managed to repair...
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- A 'golden' but unknown PSU, cute, but who knows...
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- 2x DVDRW IDE
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The motherboard is interesting to me because it was carrying two additional IDE ports, making it useful as an upgrade for my FreeNAS fileserver as well as having the usual Gigabit ethernet port - I'll mount a nice 3000+ Barton, and maybe increase RAM to be installed in dual channel.

Reply 8701 of 53149, by soviet conscript

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kithylin wrote:
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anyone know what that second power connector is for next to the regular AT connector on the duel slot board? on the Intel product specs sheet images there's no connector there just solder points.

It looks like standard ATX power connector and a 8-pin EPS-12V CPU Power connector beside that. The bladed "Half AT" power plug is weird though, not many power supplies today have that, you'll be looking for an older power supply there.

yhea. I hope its not more trouble then its worth with 2 strange PSU plugs, maybe there's adaptors available?

Reply 8702 of 53149, by HighTreason

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That PSU is almost certainly a Q-TEC, they were one of the last makers to put those on. They were OK as far as cheap PSUs went but don't even think about taking it to its upper limits for an extended period of time because you won't like it.
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Yours looks like the lower wattage, so anywhere from 200W to 500W, like these;
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250W-300W was very common back then. I think Trust bought this brand about ten years ago.

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Reply 8703 of 53149, by kithylin

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soviet conscript wrote:
kithylin wrote:
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anyone know what that second power connector is for next to the regular AT connector on the duel slot board? on the Intel product specs sheet images there's no connector there just solder points.

It looks like standard ATX power connector and a 8-pin EPS-12V CPU Power connector beside that. The bladed "Half AT" power plug is weird though, not many power supplies today have that, you'll be looking for an older power supply there.

yhea. I hope its not more trouble then its worth with 2 strange PSU plugs, maybe there's adaptors available?

8-pin EPS-12V is a standard (and staple) on all modern power supplies, the bladed connector is not however. But try it without it I guess, may not be needed.. it's what I would do.

Reply 8704 of 53149, by SquallStrife

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8-pin EPS-12V is a standard (and staple) on all modern power supplies

It is, but note that on that server board, it's a 10-pin connector. Not so standard. 😉

The "half-AT" connector is standard on 1995-1999 ATX power supplies, they used to run the VRMs off 3v3 back then, as opposed to 12v on P4+.

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Reply 8705 of 53149, by ODwilly

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SquallStrife wrote:

8-pin EPS-12V is a standard (and staple) on all modern power supplies

It is, but note that on that server board, it's a 10-pin connector. Not so standard. 😉

The "half-AT" connector is standard on 1995-1999 ATX power supplies, they used to run the VRMs off 3v3 back then, as opposed to 12v on P4+.

I have read the half-at to be called a 6-pin Auxiliary connector. I have 3 or 4 motherboards that use it currently and a bunch of old supplies that use it as well. Actually have a Server supply from an old dual slot 1 IBM Netvista that MIGHT have the proper connections (I would have to dig it out and check)

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Reply 8706 of 53149, by vetz

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I'm like Artex atm in this thread. Carefully browsing after the gems I'm missing 😉

Took some time, but finally I found a Canopus Spectra 2500 for a very good price. For those that don't know this card have the Witchdoctor capability with the Canopus Voodoo cards:

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Will be placed with my Canopus Pure3D Voodoo Graphics 6MB card, but I'd rather have it with a Voodoo2. So now I just need to find another working Canopus Pure3D II 😀

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Reply 8708 of 53149, by vetz

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Artex wrote:

Good stuff Vetz! I love Canopus cards. Do you already have the 14-pin pass-through cable?

Yes, I do. I made it myself, not very hard or expensive.

I already have the Spectra 3200, which have the same feature for the Voodoo2 based Pure3D II. I previously had a non-working Pure3D II card (now sold to someone who can perhaps mend it back to life), and I did everything I could to see if it could work, even testing the witchdoctor connection. Therefore the need for the 14 pin cable.

Artex, why isnt this card on your want list?

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Reply 8709 of 53149, by Artex

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vetz wrote:

Artex, why isnt this card on your want list?

I'd consider it a "want"... but not a "just gotta have it" item. 😎

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Reply 8710 of 53149, by vetz

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Artex wrote:
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Artex, why isnt this card on your want list?

I'd consider it a "want"... but not a "just gotta have it" item. 😎

Gotcha 😉

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Reply 8711 of 53149, by sliderider

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brostenen wrote:
I like Victorian Goth chick's better, though I am a metalhead. […]
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HighTreason wrote:

Oh, so we're on about women now?

I like Victorian Goth chick's better, though I am a metalhead.

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I'm surprised you are still able to find women who would dress like that. It takes almost an hour to put all that on. The underwear alone weighs 10 pounds. 🤣

Reply 8712 of 53149, by Gamecollector

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ODwilly wrote:

I have read the half-at to be called a 6-pin Auxiliary connector. I have 3 or 4 motherboards that use it currently and a bunch of old supplies that use it as well.

With the main ATX connector (20-pins) you have 3 +3.3V lines and 4 +5V lines. The maximum amperage for this connector is 6A, so you can't get more than 18A +3.3V (59.4VA) and 24A +5V (120VA). 179.4VA total.
The AUX connector adds 2 more +3.3V lines and 1 more +5V line. And the maximum amperage is 5A. So you can get additional 33VA for +3.3V and 25VA for +5V. And the maximum power is 92.4VA for +3.3V, 155VA for +5V and 247.6VA total.
It was the temporal solution, the correct fix was +12V VRMs...
I have seen several motherboards with this connector, multi-CPU mostly (if not all).

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Reply 8713 of 53149, by soviet conscript

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sliderider wrote:
brostenen wrote:
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HighTreason wrote:

Oh, so we're on about women now?

I like Victorian Goth chick's better, though I am a metalhead.

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I'm surprised you are still able to find women who would dress like that. It takes almost an hour to put all that on. The underwear alone weighs 10 pounds. 🤣

I'm sure if she was on the forums she may say the same thing about being surprised there are still people using and being enthusiastic about computers that are 20+ years obsolete.

as for my slot 1 sever board, power supplies with the aux connector don't seem to be rare at all. its that 10 pin connector that I cant find any information at all about. I'll probably just hunt down a PSU with the AUX connector and hope for the best. after all other images of the motherboard I'm seeing don't even have the 10 pin connector. perhaps in early revisions it was there as a proprietary connector but it was decided it wasn't necessary? see here its not present http://www2.advantech.com/nc/Newsletter/2000/ … intel_board.pdf its a PDF so warning.

*UPDATE* well, i think the AUX connector and whatever that other one is is for older PSU's maybe because it seems to run just fine on thre 24pin connector from a PSU I pulled from a P4 system. so thing boots up just fine.

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Reply 8714 of 53149, by dogchainx

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I've been casually looking for this card for a while...basically a Tekram DC-680CD VLB IDE Caching controller card with CD-ROM support (2 drives!) and floppies.

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Here's a webpage of what it looks like and the feature set:

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Can't wait to get some time to test this thing out and compare it to software disk caching like SmartDrive. I know Ultima VII played a lot better with smartdrive on, but enough conventional memory was sometimes an issue...or at least that was my recollection.

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Reply 8715 of 53149, by brostenen

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sliderider wrote:

I'm surprised you are still able to find women who would dress like that. It takes almost an hour to put all that on. The underwear alone weighs 10 pounds. 🤣

My woman is Goth. 😜 And I can tell that this type of clothes are not for everyday use.

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Reply 8716 of 53149, by HighTreason

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My woman is high quality silicone rubber. She's from Australia apparently, though she looks to be part Japanese to me.

😁

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Reply 8718 of 53149, by QBiN

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vetz wrote:

I'm like Artex atm in this thread. Carefully browsing after the gems I'm missing 😉

Took some time, but finally I found a Canopus Spectra 2500 for a very good price.

You dirty dog, you.

Reply 8719 of 53149, by Stiletto

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Lukeno94 wrote:

Why is this thread still being derailed? -.-

Yeah, that's enough, guys...

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