TrashPanda wrote on 2023-02-22, 09:31:

appiah4 wrote on 2023-02-22, 06:19:

TrashPanda wrote on 2023-02-22, 00:38:

Recently I posted about buying this big box of Pentium IIs, well they arrived today and I thought yall might be curious about th […]
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Recently I posted about buying this big box of Pentium IIs, well they arrived today and I thought yall might be curious about the models.

Pentium IIs.jpeg

-Pentium III 450 SL3CC
-Celeron 333 SL2WN
-Pentium II 350 SL2WZ
-Pentium II 350 SL2U3 x 4
-Pentium II 400 SL357 x 3

The Pentium III 450 is nice to have but other than that nothing much interesting, doesn't look to be any unlocked models, but I also don't have any date codes either. What has me curious is the SL3 part of the code on the 400s .. wouldnt that signify that they are really Pentium III CPUs rebadged as Pentium IIs ?

They are also much cleaner than this picture, I guess the seller tidied them up before mailing them.

Oh cool. I actually need a PII 400 or 450 with a low profile cooler. Looks like you have a few spares now 😁 Where do you live and would you be interested in a trade?

Rural Australia, expensive to get stuff here and equally expensive to get it out.

Postage would likely be more than you can buy one off Evilbay for.

Yeah, may as well be on Mars 😀

appiah4 wrote on 2023-02-22, 09:42:

TrashPanda wrote on 2023-02-22, 09:31:

appiah4 wrote on 2023-02-22, 06:19:

Oh cool. I actually need a PII 400 or 450 with a low profile cooler. Looks like you have a few spares now 😁 Where do you live and would you be interested in a trade?

Rural Australia, expensive to get stuff here and equally expensive to get it out.

Postage would likely be more than you can buy one off Evilbay for.

Yeah, may as well be on Mars 😀

Same goes for North America -> Europe.
$10 item generally end up for around $40 accounting for shipping and import taxes

acl wrote on 2023-02-22, 10:24:

appiah4 wrote on 2023-02-22, 09:42:

TrashPanda wrote on 2023-02-22, 09:31:

Rural Australia, expensive to get stuff here and equally expensive to get it out.

Postage would likely be more than you can buy one off Evilbay for.

Yeah, may as well be on Mars 😀

Same goes for North America -> Europe.
$10 item generally end up for around $40 accounting for shipping and import taxes

That's why I use a drop shipper. Just had a 24 pound (11 Kg) parcel shipped for under $100, which includes multiple listing from eBay and elsewhere. Saves a fortune 😀

appiah4 wrote on 2023-02-22, 09:42:

TrashPanda wrote on 2023-02-22, 09:31:

appiah4 wrote on 2023-02-22, 06:19:

Oh cool. I actually need a PII 400 or 450 with a low profile cooler. Looks like you have a few spares now 😁 Where do you live and would you be interested in a trade?

Rural Australia, expensive to get stuff here and equally expensive to get it out.

Postage would likely be more than you can buy one off Evilbay for.

Yeah, may as well be on Mars 😀

This can be arranged, for a price 🤣

The being on Mars part naturally!

debs3759 wrote on 2023-02-22, 11:20:

acl wrote on 2023-02-22, 10:24:

appiah4 wrote on 2023-02-22, 09:42:

Yeah, may as well be on Mars 😀

Same goes for North America -> Europe.
$10 item generally end up for around $40 accounting for shipping and import taxes

That's why I use a drop shipper. Just had a 24 pound (11 Kg) parcel shipped for under $100, which includes multiple listing from eBay and elsewhere. Saves a fortune 😀

I never had to ship such a big parcel, but i will keep this in mind.

acl wrote on 2023-02-22, 14:04:

debs3759 wrote on 2023-02-22, 11:20:

acl wrote on 2023-02-22, 10:24:

Same goes for North America -> Europe.
$10 item generally end up for around $40 accounting for shipping and import taxes

That's why I use a drop shipper. Just had a 24 pound (11 Kg) parcel shipped for under $100, which includes multiple listing from eBay and elsewhere. Saves a fortune 😀

I never had to ship such a big parcel, but i will keep this in mind.

11Kg is a decent parcel….I may have had a few heavier but they were 19” CRT monitors.

A little warning:
Trades and sales are not allowed on Vogons. Please do not ask nor encourage this. Thank you

'Accidentally' I got a 486 board with 486DX2/66 and 8MB RAM together with a Genoa Cirrus Logic VLB graphics card. I only have exactly one VLB card but am always looking for an inexpensive replacement (it's good to have one 'just in case'). Then this auction popped up which was still pretty low priced and so I placed a bid - quite certain that I wouldn't win. Well, I got it for 95 Euro shipped 😀 Not exactly a steal but still a pretty good price in my opinion.
I haven't tested it, yet. But the seller showed photos where it booted, so I'm optimistic that it works.

I'm slightly surprised that I can't find the board on TheRetroWeb, but maybe It's only my incompetence. The chip is an OPTi 82C495 SX
The graphics card is a Genoa Systems WindowsVGA 24 8500VL with Cirrus Logic GD5428. With 1 MB and free sockets, but I'll probably never find the matching memory for it anyway.
About the exact CPU type I'm not sure because I can't get the damn cooler off of it 😀

HanSolo wrote on 2023-02-22, 22:35:

'Accidentally' I got a 486 board with 486DX2/66 and 8MB RAM together with a Genoa Cirrus Logic VLB graphics card. I only have ex […]
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'Accidentally' I got a 486 board with 486DX2/66 and 8MB RAM together with a Genoa Cirrus Logic VLB graphics card. I only have exactly one VLB card but am always looking for an inexpensive replacement (it's good to have one 'just in case'). Then this auction popped up which was still pretty low priced and so I placed a bid - quite certain that I wouldn't win. Well, I got it for 95 Euro shipped 😀 Not exactly a steal but still a pretty good price in my opinion.
I haven't tested it, yet. But the seller showed photos where it booted, so I'm optimistic that it works.

I'm slightly surprised that I can't find the board on TheRetroWeb, but maybe It's only my incompetence. The chip is an OPTi 82C495 SX
The graphics card is a Genoa Systems WindowsVGA 24 8500VL with Cirrus Logic GD5428. With 1 MB and free sockets, but I'll probably never find the matching memory for it anyway.
About the exact CPU type I'm not sure because I can't get the damn cooler off of it 😀

I think you might have yourself a Shuttle HOT 409 https://theretroweb.com/motherboards/s/shuttl … hot-409-ver-1.x

TRW sometimes needs a few alternate search parameters to tease stuff out. I got this one by opti chipset, 2VLB and eyeball, for whatever reason more specific searches didn't pull it.

BitWrangler wrote on 2023-02-22, 23:01:

HanSolo wrote on 2023-02-22, 22:35:

'Accidentally' I got a 486 board with 486DX2/66 and 8MB RAM together with a Genoa Cirrus Logic VLB graphics card. I only have ex […]
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'Accidentally' I got a 486 board with 486DX2/66 and 8MB RAM together with a Genoa Cirrus Logic VLB graphics card. I only have exactly one VLB card but am always looking for an inexpensive replacement (it's good to have one 'just in case'). Then this auction popped up which was still pretty low priced and so I placed a bid - quite certain that I wouldn't win. Well, I got it for 95 Euro shipped 😀 Not exactly a steal but still a pretty good price in my opinion.
I haven't tested it, yet. But the seller showed photos where it booted, so I'm optimistic that it works.

I'm slightly surprised that I can't find the board on TheRetroWeb, but maybe It's only my incompetence. The chip is an OPTi 82C495 SX
The graphics card is a Genoa Systems WindowsVGA 24 8500VL with Cirrus Logic GD5428. With 1 MB and free sockets, but I'll probably never find the matching memory for it anyway.
About the exact CPU type I'm not sure because I can't get the damn cooler off of it 😀

I think you might have yourself a Shuttle HOT 409 https://theretroweb.com/motherboards/s/shuttl … hot-409-ver-1.x

TRW sometimes needs a few alternate search parameters to tease stuff out. I got this one by opti chipset, 2VLB and eyeball, for whatever reason more specific searches didn't pull it.

Yes, you're right. Thank you!

HanSolo wrote on 2023-02-22, 22:35:

[...]

The graphics card is a Genoa Systems WindowsVGA 24 8500VL with Cirrus Logic GD5428. With 1 MB and free sockets, but I'll probably never find the matching memory for it anyway.

That's just regular 512kB SoJ DRAM, same as on any number of PCI VGA cards. Shouldn't be too hard to find. I even bought a couple new from a local electronics place recently. Don't bother though: the GD542x series hardly does anything with 2MB of RAM: no higher colour modes, no higher non-interlaced resolutions, just two eye-melting higher res interlaced resolutions.

I thought it could bump you up to 16bit 64k in 1024x768, and get 60hz, at least the 28 0r 29 maybe could the 24 and 26 were a bit more limited

BitWrangler wrote on 2023-02-23, 03:51:

I thought it could bump you up to 16bit 64k in 1024x768

Yes, but interlaced only - http://bitsavers.org/components/cirrusLogic/g … Book_199505.pdf

dionb wrote on 2023-02-23, 00:39:

HanSolo wrote on 2023-02-22, 22:35:

[...]

The graphics card is a Genoa Systems WindowsVGA 24 8500VL with Cirrus Logic GD5428. With 1 MB and free sockets, but I'll probably never find the matching memory for it anyway.

That's just regular 512kB SoJ DRAM, same as on any number of PCI VGA cards. Shouldn't be too hard to find. I even bought a couple new from a local electronics place recently. Don't bother though: the GD542x series hardly does anything with 2MB of RAM: no higher colour modes, no higher non-interlaced resolutions, just two eye-melting higher res interlaced resolutions.

What a shame.. Not a big problem now since this will be DOS-only, but people who did the upgrade back then were probably pretty disappointed

Uncommon graphic cards.

Cirrus Logic Laguna3D (probably a Chaintech version)
Number Nine Revolution 3D
I/O Data's (japanese manufacturer) 3DFX Voodoo Rush
Leadtek's Chromatic Mpact!

Bought a Permedia II 8MB

I really need to get around to repairing the SS7 motherboard.

I received an unusual "graphic" card:

It comes with a ps/2 to ps/2 cable, an extra minidin adapter, a 2-pin cable to connect to the motherboard reset jumper and a 60 pages long detailed manual:

How it's recognized by the computer:

lolo799 wrote on 2023-02-23, 19:13:

I received an unusual "graphic" card:20230222_213809.jpg

PC Weasel 2000 was a line of graphics cards designed by Middle Digital Incorporated (Herb Peyerl and Jonathan Levine) which output to a serial port instead of a monitor. This allows servers using PC hardware with conventional BIOSes or operating systems lacking serial capability to be administered remotely.

The product was introduced in 1999 and began shipping January 20, 2000.

PCI and ISA models are available. The PC Weasel is also connected to a PS/2-compatible keyboard port and effectively emulates a keyboard by converting characters obtained from the serial port to keyboard scancodes. The card may also be connected to the reset pins of the motherboard and reboot the machine on command.

Just got this card, it was untested, it seems to be fully working when i tested it in my PC. has a real OPL3 chip and has SB Pro 2 and WSS compatibility

Got another load of cr*p... It was everything or nothing kind of deal, so I had to take even the stuff I didn't wanted, but the offer was really good as it usually is with these sources (basically computers parted out in the recyclers)...
All motherboards work just fine, beside the MSI one which is unstable due to the caps. There is a cool DFI Super Socket 7 board with my beloved MVP3 and ASUS P2B-F but I think I already have some of these. Also PVI-486SP3, but I believe I already have like two of them as well. Interestingly enough both ECS Socket A boards work just flawlessly. Not something I would expect from an ECS of this era ;D

I will test the cards on weekend.

Another packages of this guy are on my way with similar stuff.

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