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Bought these (retro) hardware today

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Reply 50020 of 52822, by Shponglefan

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Kahenraz wrote on 2023-08-07, 16:30:
Big Pink wrote on 2023-08-07, 15:59:

I watch Adrian's Digital Basement - how hard can it be to fix? 😉

I wouldn't have known how volatile old tantalum caps are without having watched his show. They are solid state and look as durable as ceramic, but this simply isn't true. I think he nicknames them "poppers", like "popcorn", because they look like little yellow kernels.

I have a 286 system that apparently suffered a fire as a result of an exploding tantalum cap. Left a nice scorch mark on the inside of the case.

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Reply 50021 of 52822, by 3lectr1c

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Got in today: a WinBook XL Pentium MMX laptop off eBay.

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So far, I'm loving it. It's in great shape and fully working!
Specs:
233MHz Desktop Pentium MMX
64MB EDO RAM
30GB Hard Drive
Yamaha OPL3-SAX Sound
C&T 65554 Graphics
Windows 98 Second Edition

I need to reinforce the plastic around the hinges as they break on these all the time, but other than that it's good to go.

I probably have too many old laptops.

Reply 50022 of 52822, by Repo Man11

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I stopped by the local computer shop today to see if they had any interesting old parts. Last time I was there I spotted a beige IDE DVDROM, but sadly it was gone. I did buy a black IDE DVDRW drive, then I spotted this. They have stuff loose in boxes on shelves, including one with video cards. When I had looked before there was nothing of any real interest - the few AGP cards I saw before were Nvidia 6200s and similar. But this one caught my eye. A closer look and rather than the 9800 Pro I hoped for, it was a 9800 SE. I decided to roll the dice, and I got the card and the drive for $10.00. I tested the card out today, and it worked with no problems. It's a 128 bit card ( just as the 9800 SE I already have is), but it unlocked to eight pipelines with Omega drivers with no issues, and completed 3D 2001. I then removed it, cleaned it and oiled the fan bearing and replaced the thermal paste. I had been planning on removing the 9800 SE that's in my low dollar PCChips P4 system to compare its performance in my Soyo K7V Dragon Plus, but now I have two of them so I don't have to! I tested it in that system, but it only had a 700 MHz Duron, so it only scored a little over 5,000 points, where the Quadro4 700 XGL was scoring just under 5,000. But the Palomino XP2000+ I purchased arrived today, and now the Quadro scores just over 10,000 points so I'm looking forward to seeing how it does with the 9800 SE.

I asked the worker who helped me if they ever get old motherboards that have bad capacitors, and he took my phone number and told me that he would give me a call if they get any old stuff like that. If that works out, it would be great.

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Reply 50023 of 52822, by Demetrio

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I don't like the CRT for my Pentium MMX build, so I bought this Olivetti one for 10€

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Waiting for the shipping.

Reply 50024 of 52822, by asdf53

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CrFr wrote on 2023-08-04, 19:23:

Village Tronic MPDD Pro card (Trident Blade XP). Probably shit card, but I bought it mainly for being unusual (at least I haven't seen one before). Might be good for late 90's OS9 machine.

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Great find, also looks like brand new. I love it when a card is so unusual that you can't tell what it is by looking at it.

Reply 50025 of 52822, by RandomStranger

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CrFr wrote on 2023-08-04, 19:23:

Village Tronic MPDD Pro card (Trident Blade XP). Probably shit card, but I bought it mainly for being unusual (at least I haven't seen one before). Might be good for late 90's OS9 machine.

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It's alright. It just released ~2 years late.

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Reply 50026 of 52822, by HanSolo

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pentiumspeed wrote on 2023-08-07, 00:54:
HanSolo wrote on 2023-08-06, 23:30:

Dell Optiplex GXPro 200 [..]. It starts up but stops with a keyboard error (tried with 2 PS2 and an USB-Keyboard. Not even the Num-Lock LED reacts). Fell free to suggest anything I could test 😀

No power on keyboard, means you have lost 5V supply for the PS/2 keyboard and mouse port. Find the nearby fuse and check it with meter.

Cheers,

Do you have any advice where that might be?

Kahenraz wrote on 2023-08-07, 06:59:

Look for a jumper near the PS/2 port. Sometimes the port can be disabled if that jumper falls off.

No jumper as far as I can see

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Reply 50027 of 52822, by appiah4

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HanSolo wrote on 2023-08-08, 11:10:
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HanSolo wrote on 2023-08-06, 23:30:

Dell Optiplex GXPro 200 [..]. It starts up but stops with a keyboard error (tried with 2 PS2 and an USB-Keyboard. Not even the Num-Lock LED reacts). Fell free to suggest anything I could test 😀

No power on keyboard, means you have lost 5V supply for the PS/2 keyboard and mouse port. Find the nearby fuse and check it with meter.

Cheers,

Do you have any advice where that might be?

Kahenraz wrote on 2023-08-07, 06:59:

Look for a jumper near the PS/2 port. Sometimes the port can be disabled if that jumper falls off.

No jumper as far as I can see

I sincerely dout it's 5V or fuse related, that would not cause any problems with a USB keyboard.

That said, USB keyboard support may be disabled in the BIOS. Have you tried a CMOS reset?

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Reply 50028 of 52822, by HanSolo

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appiah4 wrote on 2023-08-08, 11:16:
HanSolo wrote on 2023-08-08, 11:10:
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pentiumspeed wrote on 2023-08-07, 00:54:

No power on keyboard, means you have lost 5V supply for the PS/2 keyboard and mouse port. Find the nearby fuse and check it with meter.

Cheers,

Do you have any advice where that might be?

Kahenraz wrote on 2023-08-07, 06:59:

Look for a jumper near the PS/2 port. Sometimes the port can be disabled if that jumper falls off.

No jumper as far as I can see

I sincerely dout it's 5V or fuse related, that would not cause any problems with a USB keyboard.

That said, USB keyboard support may be disabled in the BIOS. Have you tried a CMOS reset?

I removed the battery and tried it without and with another one. The board doesn't seem to have a dedicated CMOS-reset jumper.
At the moment I only have two DIN keyboards and an PS2-adapter. Later I try a real PS2 keyboard to eliminate that.

Reply 50029 of 52822, by RetroPC_King

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Today I got two IDE optical drives. One of them is a white ASUS DRW-1608P (OEM Pioneer DVR-109) 16x DVD writer, and the another one is a black ASUS CB-5216A DVD-ROM/CD-RW combo drive, both of them in a good shape and working. Any opinions?

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Reply 50033 of 52822, by DrSwizz

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appiah4 wrote on 2023-08-08, 12:56:

How one of them is so much wider than the other?...

One is obviously a slim type DVD drive for movies in 4:3 format and the other one is for wide screen movies. 😉

Reply 50035 of 52822, by ElectroSoldier

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Bit of a haul today, I was given it by a guy from work in exchange for a price to be arranged.

Asus P8H61M-LX2
Sandy bridge Core i3-2120
4Gb RAM for the board above
Palit GT210
512Mb PC2700
500W ATX PSU random noname brand
SATA DVD-RW drive
120mm case fan
Some generic looking "gaming" case with LED case fans
Apple Mac G5, no drive, no RAM and I dont know if it has any CPUs either, but there are heat sinks installed and a video card.
Im not a Mac guy so I have no idea what Im looking at there. Ive no idea where to start with it as its got no RAM or drive/OS.

I might try and get that i3-2120 put together and get Windows Powered installed onto it and use it as a NAS appliance. Or Win2k3 stripped down and use it as an appliance.

Reply 50036 of 52822, by HanSolo

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HanSolo wrote on 2023-08-08, 11:37:
appiah4 wrote on 2023-08-08, 11:16:
HanSolo wrote on 2023-08-08, 11:10:

Do you have any advice where that might be?
No jumper as far as I can see

I sincerely dout it's 5V or fuse related, that would not cause any problems with a USB keyboard.
That said, USB keyboard support may be disabled in the BIOS. Have you tried a CMOS reset?

I removed the battery and tried it without and with another one. The board doesn't seem to have a dedicated CMOS-reset jumper.
At the moment I only have two DIN keyboards and an PS2-adapter. Later I try a real PS2 keyboard to eliminate that.

Finally I managed to get it working - by using a real PS2-keyboard. I've used the DIN/PS2-adapter on many other systems so my only explanation is that the plug was just slightly too short to make good contact in that particular socket or was blocked by the case because of the plastic. But I was considering this already and it felt like it was plugged in firmly.
By default the USB port is disabled in the BIOS, but even after enabling it my USB-keyboard wouldn't work. But I didn't invest much time in that.

What I find intriguing is that the owner used Windows XP on this system. Quite challanging for a PPro 200 with 192 MB RAM in my opinion. And what surprised me even more: since I removed all except for one memory stick, the first boot now was with 64 MB and the login screen showed up pretty fast.

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Reply 50037 of 52822, by TheAbandonwareGuy

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Bought *another* 9700 Pro off eBay. This time to the tune of $60 USD.

Hopefully this one works. 3rd times the charm right?

It is remarkable how difficult it is to find a working example of a card that sold like hotcakes. Even considering how comprehensively the cooling solution on them seems to suck.

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Reply 50038 of 52822, by Ensign Nemo

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Nothing super exciting this time, but a local computer shop had a new old stock IDE hard drive for $10. It's described as a "Fujitsu 2.1GB Internal 5400RPM 3.5" (MPB3021AT)" drive. Nice to have a spare on hand.

Reply 50039 of 52822, by BitWrangler

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The 9700 seemed like they were gone in the blink of an eye back in the day, one day seeing first reviews, then wait a month for them to fill the channel, then see how the ppl with buckets of money are doing with them, then start putting a bit of spare cash aside and wait for the first price drop and **poof** the 9800 is out.

edit: I actually wanted to get a used one back in the day some year or so after they'd been around, and the bleeding edgers were on something else, but there was very little availability then too.

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