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Reply 52080 of 52819, by debs3759

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H3nrik V! wrote on 2024-03-08, 12:23:
PC@LIVE wrote on 2024-03-07, 17:42:
I found a K6-2-533 for sale, for a MB Camaro, but if you want you can use it in other boards, as long as it has FSB 97, otherwis […]
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I found a K6-2-533 for sale, for a MB Camaro, but if you want you can use it in other boards, as long as it has FSB 97, otherwise you have to use it at 95 or 100.
With this example, I would have all the K6-2s from 233 to 550, there are also other examples with strange frequencies, for example the 337, I'm missing that one.
The second purchase, not very old, is an ASROCK Micro MB with FM2 socket, I currently don't have any suitable CPUs, I think I'll have to get at least one in the near future.
But I have several CPUs arriving, today a Core2 Duo E4700 @2.60GHz arrived, I think I'll try raising the FSB from 800 to 1066, just to see how it goes.

Also, there was 380 (as mentioned by others here as well), and 475. Both as 95 MHz FSB. Furthermore, 333 was also released as a 95 MHz version (or maybe it was just the regular 333 supporting 3.5x multiplier as well?)

I'm aware of four 475MHz K6-2 and two K6-2+. I have a K6-2/475ACK (that actually a K6-2-P) in my collection. There are two different K6-2/380 (one is a K6-2-P in the manuals)

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Reply 52081 of 52819, by Socket3

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vmunix wrote on 2024-03-08, 11:03:
Socket3 wrote on 2024-03-07, 23:03:
vmunix wrote on 2024-03-07, 13:37:

Same thought when I saw it, that, the PAS16 and the ESS with wavetable already worth whatever you have paid for the lot, imho.

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Dang it! you scored 2 Venturis !! it took me ages to score a single one and not exactly the prettiest.
Edit: Celebris not Venturis, mine is a Venturis not sure the difference, the case is the same

Only got the one the middle actually. It was in fairly good nick, just a bit dirty, but she'll clean up nice I'm sure. The one on the bottom went to a friend.

Reply 52082 of 52819, by rasz_pl

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acl wrote on 2024-03-08, 13:19:

I found this lot for 9€+4€ shipping :
Abit BE6 and BH6. Boards are untested but said to be unused. Super clean, caps looks ok. I'm optimistic.

Damn I think you beat my deal, I got broken (caps) Abit BH6 for $8 including shipping last month 😀

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Reply 52083 of 52819, by acl

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rasz_pl wrote on 2024-03-09, 03:59:
acl wrote on 2024-03-08, 13:19:

I found this lot for 9€+4€ shipping :
Abit BE6 and BH6. Boards are untested but said to be unused. Super clean, caps looks ok. I'm optimistic.

Damn I think you beat my deal, I got broken (caps) Abit BH6 for $8 including shipping last month 😀

Unfortunately i'm busy at the moment with almost no free time for retro activities so i still have not tested them.

Your deal can still be better than mine if my cards are dead 😁

If at least one work i will definitely compare the performances with the VIA chipset i'm currently using

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Reply 52084 of 52819, by PcBytes

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To be honest you're both still in the win for now - I'm waiting on two VP6s 🤣

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Reply 52085 of 52819, by BitWrangler

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Very cheap in money, but a bit expensive in patience, but the Diamond Stealth III S540 32MB is in my grubby mitts... (pic)

Got to dreaming about a wide coverage machine early VGA to 1999ish, maybe pairing it with PVR2 and Voodoo2. Not super sure what board and CPU will go with it yet, was thinking PIII maybe, but I just realised I don't really have another use for my Morgan Duron, and could mobile mod it to do 300-1300, using it maybe on an A7V or maybe a SiS board. We'll see, we'll see... somehow it was bugging me not having a savage class S3 to play with.

Also got for retro purposes, an approx 8" rectangular 3x magnification, lighted, magnifier on a stand, which looked useful for doing the fiddly stuff. It's kind of a "make do" placeholder as I really want one of those 20x binocular inspection microscopes, but not at full new top end lab gear price, but the deals on them keep eluding me. Adding to the tools with some fine taper hole embiggeners and fine drillbits for making and clearing through holes.

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Reply 52086 of 52819, by PC@LIVE

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Today I took some things, some used and some not, I make a list:

11 SATA cables + 1 SATA cable with integrated power cord;

4 Fans x CPU 70 X 70;

1 Fan x CPU 60 X 60;

3 Fans x CPU 50 X 50;

1 Heatsipant + Tt Thermaltake Fan for CPU Slot 1 or A;

1 Heatsipper + Asus Gaming Series Fan, probably for GPU - Video Card;

1 Heatsink I believe for chipset, but easily adaptable to CPU Slot 1 or A;

1+1 Heat pipe heatsinks for CPUs, one HP, I think they fit the 775 or similar;

1 3”1/2 player for memory cards (unfortunately the connection cable is missing), with a complimentary HL SATA DVD player for laptops;

7 3”1/2 1.44 MB Magnex Floppy Disks, with box and labels included;

1 HD SATA WD400BD 40.0 GB ;

1 HD PATA Samsung SP4004H 40.0 GB ;

1 PCI TX Hollywood PRO card, for video capture and editing, complete with driver box and Pinnacle Studio 9SE;

1 Digital Microscope USB, this I hope will help me in the repairs of the tracks or microtracks of the MB in repair;

3 250-300-350W ATX power supplies, the first two Delta Electronics, the other FSP.

The 40 GB PATA disk, should go on the Willy, the 30 GB one with Windows 7, reuse it on PIII or Athlon-Duron, or on a Soyo BX.

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AMD 286-16 287-10 4MB HD 45MB VGA 256KB
AMD 386DX-40 Intel 387 8MB HD 81MB VGA 256KB
Cyrix 486DLC-40 IIT387-40 8MB VGA 512KB
AMD 5X86-133 16MB VGA VLB CL5428 2MB and many others
AMD K62+ 550 SOYO 5EMA+ and many others
AST Pentium Pro 200 MHz L2 256KB

Reply 52087 of 52819, by PcBytes

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Haul today.

Picks:

- HP s7000 - T2250, 1.5GB DDR2
- Advantech PCM-4823
- Aureal Vortex 2
- ASUS P5K, MSI P45 Neo3, ASRock P4Dual-915GL

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Reply 52088 of 52819, by InTheStudy

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Just picked this up as "untested" (so probably just broken, but YOLO) for £45. If not, should be fun alongside the SC-D70 that's on order and an mt32-pi if I can hack the code to do what I need.

I'm going to stop there for synths, I think. Need to improve on input though, I have a GI-10, Keystation Mini 32 and Launchpad Mini. (both OG versions). Nothing inherently wrong with any of those, but a 32 key mini keyboard with crappy sensitivity is not really all that useful.

Gonna keep my eye on Marketplace and see what comes up locally. Shipping is too much of a pain for anything like a used 61key.

Reply 52089 of 52819, by Kahenraz

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The MU50 has its coin cell battery soldered to the motherboard. Best to remove it as soon as you can to prevent damage.

This device has a low battery warning on the LCD, I think. So it should be replaced with a socket at the same time, if that bothers you.

Reply 52090 of 52819, by InTheStudy

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Kahenraz wrote on 2024-03-10, 14:06:

The MU50 has its coin cell battery soldered to the motherboard. Best to remove it as soon as you can to prevent damage.

Great tip, now I know why it'll be DoA. 😁

Happen to know if the SC-D70 has one?

Reply 52091 of 52819, by PC@LIVE

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Purchased povo ago a batch of motherboards, six in total, plus two video cards and one audio card (SB Live), they could arrive by the end of the week, of this lot, I was interested in the ASUS P4B266, I currently have other similar cards but with PC133 RAM , this is the first 478/400 to use DDR, some need to be fixed, there are some swollen capacitors, which will need to be replaced, for the rest I will see how many work, usually there is at least a couple with problems operation.

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AMD 286-16 287-10 4MB HD 45MB VGA 256KB
AMD 386DX-40 Intel 387 8MB HD 81MB VGA 256KB
Cyrix 486DLC-40 IIT387-40 8MB VGA 512KB
AMD 5X86-133 16MB VGA VLB CL5428 2MB and many others
AMD K62+ 550 SOYO 5EMA+ and many others
AST Pentium Pro 200 MHz L2 256KB

Reply 52093 of 52819, by PcBytes

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Thanks, almost finished testing them all.

So far, aside from the P5K, all work fine. P5K has bad BGA on the socket (had a P5K-V long ago with same issue). It'll cycle on and off endlessly.
The MSI needs a bit of deeper cleaning as it won't POST with certain RAM configurations;
The SBC works but I need a PC-104 soundcard and a 44pin-IDE;
P4Dual-915GL POSTs fine, needs a Northwood and a recap 😀

Left to test:
- Aureal Vortex II - suggestions for a test bench?
- (although not retro) 2x Seagate ST1000DM010 'cudas 🤣, need to check if they're healthy.

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Reply 52094 of 52819, by Kahenraz

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InTheStudy wrote on 2024-03-10, 14:41:
Kahenraz wrote on 2024-03-10, 14:06:

The MU50 has its coin cell battery soldered to the motherboard. Best to remove it as soon as you can to prevent damage.

Great tip, now I know why it'll be DoA. 😁

Happen to know if the SC-D70 has one?

I do not. The MU50 works fine without the battery, so this will not be the reason for the DOA. I would check to see if the DC power supply is working, if it doesn't power up.

Reply 52095 of 52819, by InTheStudy

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Kahenraz wrote on 2024-03-10, 16:48:

I do not. The MU50 works fine without the battery, so this will not be the reason for the DOA. I would check to see if the DC power supply is working, if it doesn't power up.

I meant, "because the traces are gone".

And yes, if it does have issues - caps, regulators... but to be honest, I'll probably hand it off to a colleague who is a wizard, charges a pittance and has a much steadier hand than I. I'd rather not destroy this with my awful soldering.

Reply 52096 of 52819, by demiurge

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Added Trident TGUI9440-2 to the vgamuseum. It is completely useless mid step between the 1st and 3rd revision but I just had to add it for completeness.
(48-pin reduction from TGUI9440-1 with added integrated ROM BIOS. Identical to Trident TGUI9440-3 but lacks ISA support)

Added a 16 MB CD RAM version to the Diamond Fire GL 4000

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BitWrangler wrote on 2024-03-10, 03:22:

Very cheap in money, but a bit expensive in patience, but the Diamond Stealth III S540 32MB is in my grubby mitts... (pic)

Got to dreaming about a wide coverage machine early VGA to 1999ish, maybe pairing it with PVR2 and Voodoo2. Not super sure what board and CPU will go with it yet, was thinking PIII maybe, but I just realised I don't really have another use for my Morgan Duron, and could mobile mod it to do 300-1300, using it maybe on an A7V or maybe a SiS board. We'll see, we'll see... somehow it was bugging me not having a savage class S3 to play with.

Also got for retro purposes, an approx 8" rectangular 3x magnification, lighted, magnifier on a stand, which looked useful for doing the fiddly stuff. It's kind of a "make do" placeholder as I really want one of those 20x binocular inspection microscopes, but not at full new top end lab gear price, but the deals on them keep eluding me. Adding to the tools with some fine taper hole embiggeners and fine drillbits for making and clearing through holes.

IS there something special about this card aside from the 2x/4x jumper, seems like its a pretty normal Savage 4.

Reply 52098 of 52819, by BitWrangler

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Trashbytes wrote on 2024-03-11, 02:17:
BitWrangler wrote on 2024-03-10, 03:22:

Very cheap in money, but a bit expensive in patience, but the Diamond Stealth III S540 32MB is in my grubby mitts... (pic)

Got to dreaming about a wide coverage machine early VGA to 1999ish, maybe pairing it with PVR2 and Voodoo2. Not super sure what board and CPU will go with it yet, was thinking PIII maybe, but I just realised I don't really have another use for my Morgan Duron, and could mobile mod it to do 300-1300, using it maybe on an A7V or maybe a SiS board. We'll see, we'll see... somehow it was bugging me not having a savage class S3 to play with.

Also got for retro purposes, an approx 8" rectangular 3x magnification, lighted, magnifier on a stand, which looked useful for doing the fiddly stuff. It's kind of a "make do" placeholder as I really want one of those 20x binocular inspection microscopes, but not at full new top end lab gear price, but the deals on them keep eluding me. Adding to the tools with some fine taper hole embiggeners and fine drillbits for making and clearing through holes.

IS there something special about this card aside from the 2x/4x jumper, seems like its a pretty normal Savage 4.

Well it was attractive to me for being the Diamond version, not some Johnny come lately third tier brand when the chips got sold at a corporate garage sale, and was the largest memory variant. So rather this one to fill my savage hole than whatever you could snipe on fleabay for $15 because screw paying REAL money. But this chipset itself, excellent 2D compatibility, top quarter 2D speed, doesn't fight with LCDs, i.e. produce stripes or fail to find compatible refresh rates at all, 3d performance is meh, and might need fiddling with to get right, but reaches backwards far better than it reaches forward. First card to have the texture compression which is standard, claimed first AGP 4x card also.

edit: Oh, you know what is unspecial about it, this particular card, that RAM appears to be marked a but slow, but it is micron chips... now PC-133 wasn't quite an official thing at the time, best chips were marked 8ns... however, it was micron chips that got rebinned for PC133 or even PC150, so I am not quite sure of the situation here yet, rebin or only 125mhz, no AGP system "live" ATM ... well one with iffy caps, but I'm not testing anything on that in case of a ripple kill... the tnt in it seems to have survived so far though... Anyhoo... if hunting diamond cards try to get better marked RAM.

Unicorn herding operations are proceeding, but all the totes of hens teeth and barrels of rocking horse poop give them plenty of hiding spots.

Reply 52099 of 52819, by BitWrangler

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PC@LIVE wrote on 2024-03-10, 09:42:

1 Heatsink I believe for chipset, but easily adaptable to CPU Slot 1 or A;

I think that's the annoying as hell passive sink that came on everything from 8400GT, thru GT210 to 610 and even 710 nVidia "basic desktop" cards... annoying because the card might even be low profile but that stupid thing makes it a slot and a half wide. It doesn't even seem to work as well as some more "boring" looking ones.

Unicorn herding operations are proceeding, but all the totes of hens teeth and barrels of rocking horse poop give them plenty of hiding spots.