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Reply 52760 of 53355, by Trashbytes

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Decided to add another 486 board that fills a gap, I have both ISA and PCI 486 boards but dont have a board that has VLB, so I picked up a dataexpert-exp8046 that has all three slot types along with supporting 3.3 and 5 volt CPUs. Its been modded with the Dallas RTC battery mod which is good.

I think I may end up using this one as my daily 486 board, seems it'll handle pretty much any socket 3 CPU I have here along with being able to take a wider range of cards so it will make for a good PC to test cards in.

Comes with a nice AMD DX4-100 and 8Mb of ram too. Has anyone here got any experience with this board, if so how does it fair against the competition for tinkering with bus speeds and such?

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Reply 52761 of 53355, by zuldan

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Trashbytes wrote on 2024-04-26, 03:55:
Decided to add another 486 board that fills a gap, I have both ISA and PCI 486 boards but dont have a board that has VLB, so I p […]
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Decided to add another 486 board that fills a gap, I have both ISA and PCI 486 boards but dont have a board that has VLB, so I picked up a dataexpert-exp8046 that has all three slot types along with supporting 3.3 and 5 volt CPUs. Its been modded with the Dallas RTC battery mod which is good.

I think I may end up using this one as my daily 486 board, seems it'll handle pretty much any socket 3 CPU I have here along with being able to take a wider range of cards so it will make for a good PC to test cards in.

Comes with a nice AMD DX4-100 and 8Mb of ram too. Has anyone here got any experience with this board, if so how does it fair against the competition for tinkering with bus speeds and such?

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Very nice! Have you got a VLB ET4000 and a VLB multi IO cards to put in?

Reply 52762 of 53355, by Trashbytes

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zuldan wrote on 2024-04-26, 05:27:
Trashbytes wrote on 2024-04-26, 03:55:
Decided to add another 486 board that fills a gap, I have both ISA and PCI 486 boards but dont have a board that has VLB, so I p […]
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Decided to add another 486 board that fills a gap, I have both ISA and PCI 486 boards but dont have a board that has VLB, so I picked up a dataexpert-exp8046 that has all three slot types along with supporting 3.3 and 5 volt CPUs. Its been modded with the Dallas RTC battery mod which is good.

I think I may end up using this one as my daily 486 board, seems it'll handle pretty much any socket 3 CPU I have here along with being able to take a wider range of cards so it will make for a good PC to test cards in.

Comes with a nice AMD DX4-100 and 8Mb of ram too. Has anyone here got any experience with this board, if so how does it fair against the competition for tinkering with bus speeds and such?

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Very nice! Have you got a VLB ET4000 and a VLB multi IO cards to put in?

board has on board IO, no VLB VGA yet, but I have a few PCI cards that will work good, got an ARK 2000 and 1000 and a ET4000AX, wont worry about VLB yet till I can get a good deal on a GD5434 based VLB card with 2MB ram. May also hunt down one of them super fast VLB super IO cards with on board cache, or go silly and grab a VLB SCSI raid card ...that might be fun.

Seller even sent me a few pics confirming the board supports both EDO and FPM which makes throwing more ram into it easier, I have 64Mb of 60ns EDO memory I may put in it yet, might even look at seeing if there are faster cache chips for it too.

Just having VLB with ISA and PCI opens up a lot of opportunities to play with VLB stuff that I had no chance to even touch back in the day.

Edit - That ET4000 VLB card is one expensive little number about 300 AUD for the cheapest I see, no doubt the 5434 will be too. The WD Paradise VGA VLB is not a terrible price so might look at that if no good deals show for the other two.

Missed the fact that this board doesn't actually have on-board IDE ..just floppy and serial IO ..so will be pulling out a PCI IDE card I have.

Have a feeling this little gem I have should work just fine in a 486, super amusing to throw a 286 into a 486 to acts as a raid controller.

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Reply 52763 of 53355, by appiah4

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Jccwu wrote on 2024-04-25, 15:27:

I loved the boxed versions hardware

I have that WaveRider 32+ board myself and would love it if you could scan the manual and/or image the disks.

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Reply 52764 of 53355, by zwrr

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Got some Super IO cards, Octek Compact IO-B, DFI MIO-400KF these two cards are good and the information is perfect, the CY-573-V1 unknown card looks good, but I can't find any information on the Internet, can anyone provide its jumper setup information?

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486DLC-40, 386-VC-H, 32MB, GD5429, ES1868F


X5-133, HIPPO-15, 32MB, Riva 128, ES1868F


5x86-120GP, SYL8884, 32MB, Trio64V+, ES1868F


Pentium MMX-233, T2P4, 128MB, TNT2, SB16


Tualatin-1.4G, 694X, 512MB, G400, Voodoo2, SB AWE32

Reply 52765 of 53355, by InTheStudy

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Sad to say the SC-88VL was a bust. Either it was a hijacked account, or the item got lost in the post but regardless - the seller never responded to my communication and eventually eBay refunded. So, still waiting on news of Popcorn.

Reply 52766 of 53355, by konc

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I couldn't pass on some cards sold locally for a very good price. Among an ATI 9550 SE whose speciality I believe is being the slowest card in the entire 9000 series and a beautiful Audigy 2 that I just found out it never had official win9x drivers so it won't replace a Live!, there where these 2:

A Cirrus Logic GD5434 PCI that I intend to play with, supposedly its 64-bit memory bus is only enabled with 2MB of memory and I just have to measure this. I hope it works with EDO and doesn't require FPM because I don't have any to add and they don't seem terribly available.

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And one that looked promising to be something interesting/out of the ordinary like maybe a Quadro, but probably it was just me not being very familiar with the Nvidia FX cards and judged by the heatsink, it didn't look like anything I know. It ended up being a very generic and cheap-looking FX 5200. The reason I'm posting it is because I hope the manufacturer is not completely unknown and someone recognizes it so I can find more pictures: it gets pretty hot even when doing nothing and I want to make sure it didn't have a fan in the past.

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Reply 52767 of 53355, by appiah4

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I have similar FX5200 built on a blue PCB by ASUS. I use it as my goto test bench video card because it works in older AGP slots and has a DVI out. Perfect for what I need it for.

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Reply 52768 of 53355, by Kahenraz

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Check the thermal paste on these old passive heatsinks. They are often dried out and the card, which already gets extremely hot, and can overheat to 100C or more as a result.

Passive GeForce 8400 GS running at 100C.

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Reply 52769 of 53355, by konc

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Kahenraz wrote on 2024-04-26, 14:30:

Check the thermal paste on these old passive heatsinks. They are often dried out and the card, which already gets extremely hot, is often overheating to 100C or more as a result.

Passive GeForce 8400 GS running at 100C.

Jeez 100C! I did change it as part of the initial cleaning, you can't really know if it's 2 or 20 year old paste under the heatsink.

Reply 52770 of 53355, by PC@LIVE

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I won the auction, which includes RAM, readers, cards, cables, the price was low, and there were no other bidders, I hope they don't cancel the auction, given the low final price.
Among the most interesting things, the 1.44MB floppy disk drive, black in colour, the RAMs are DDR, useful for bench tests, the cables as well, and also the CD players.

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AMD 286-16 287-10 4MB HD 45MB VGA 256KB
AMD 386DX-40 Intel 387 8MB HD 81MB VGA 256KB
Cyrix 486DLC-40 IIT387-40 8MB VGA 512KB
AMD 5X86-133 16MB VGA VLB CL5428 2MB and many others
AMD K62+ 550 SOYO 5EMA+ and many others
AST Pentium Pro 200 MHz L2 256KB

Reply 52771 of 53355, by Dan386DX

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I'm sorta, kinda, maybe considering buying this old mystery PC as a project.

Anyone care to venture what the motherboard looks like from this very limited eBay listing?

Seller has no info about the PC.

I can see it's ATX, 4 dimms EDIT: Actually, looks like 2x2 different RAM kinds. (1 AGP?) 1 AMR. 5 PCI and and I think I see an ISA lurking in the shadows at the bottom.

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90s PC: IBM 6x86 MX 233MHz. TNT2 M64. 256MB/1GB.
Boring modern PC: i7-12700, RX 7800XT. 32GB/1TB.
Fixer upper project: NEC Powermate 486SX/25. 16MB/400MB.

Reply 52772 of 53355, by PcBytes

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ECS P4S5A rev 1.2A, printed right next to the PCI slots.

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Reply 52773 of 53355, by Repo Man11

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Dan386DX wrote on 2024-04-26, 18:57:
I'm sorta, kinda, maybe considering buying this old mystery PC as a project. […]
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I'm sorta, kinda, maybe considering buying this old mystery PC as a project.

Anyone care to venture what the motherboard looks like from this very limited eBay listing?

Seller has no info about the PC.

I can see it's ATX, 4 dimms EDIT: Actually, looks like 2x2 different RAM kinds. (1 AGP?) 1 AMR. 5 PCI and and I think I see an ISA lurking in the shadows at the bottom.

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It looks like an ECS P4S5A:

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Reply 52774 of 53355, by PcBytes

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It is, though an older revision than the one you posted. (yours uses the same PCB as PCChips M930DAFULR V5.1 aka P4S5A/DX+)

"Enter at your own peril, past the bolted door..."
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Reply 52775 of 53355, by Dan386DX

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Thank you, saved me buying it - socket 478 is a little newer than the kinds of systems I like to work with.

90s PC: IBM 6x86 MX 233MHz. TNT2 M64. 256MB/1GB.
Boring modern PC: i7-12700, RX 7800XT. 32GB/1TB.
Fixer upper project: NEC Powermate 486SX/25. 16MB/400MB.

Reply 52776 of 53355, by Horun

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Horun wrote on 2024-04-23, 22:43:

Yes a M1-DA or "EVC" connector. I have a cable (came with a Dell branded Radeon 7000 AGP) which should work if it does not have a DB 15 vga.
I ordered the card, they said they would email me back which connector type it has..has a 30 DOA return also.

Card arrived today, looks in good shape. Cost $54 plus a lil shipping. Came well packed in a Matsonic main board box 😁
Can't test until later, maybe this weekend....the cable from the Dell Radeon does fit perfect....
Thanks for all the info earlier...

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Hate posting a reply and then have to edit it because it made no sense 😁 First computer was an IBM 3270 workstation with CGA monitor. Stuff: https://archive.org/details/@horun

Reply 52777 of 53355, by progman.exe

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Dan386DX wrote on 2024-04-26, 18:57:
I can see it's ATX, 4 dimms EDIT: Actually, looks like 2x2 different RAM kinds. (1 AGP?) 1 AMR. 5 PCI and and I think I see an I […]
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I can see it's ATX, 4 dimms EDIT: Actually, looks like 2x2 different RAM kinds. (1 AGP?) 1 AMR. 5 PCI and and I think I see an ISA lurking in the shadows at the bottom.

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Got that exact case here, with the corpse of the house domain controller from ~20 years ago in it. It could do with some re-animation, was a Duron ~800 running Windows 2000 Data Center Server!

But that PSU is not screwed in properly, there needs to be a screw in the hole below the PASS sticker, or the PSU might bang-about.

Reply 52778 of 53355, by Dan386DX

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progman.exe wrote on 2024-04-27, 02:54:
Dan386DX wrote on 2024-04-26, 18:57:
I can see it's ATX, 4 dimms EDIT: Actually, looks like 2x2 different RAM kinds. (1 AGP?) 1 AMR. 5 PCI and and I think I see an I […]
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I can see it's ATX, 4 dimms EDIT: Actually, looks like 2x2 different RAM kinds. (1 AGP?) 1 AMR. 5 PCI and and I think I see an ISA lurking in the shadows at the bottom.

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Got that exact case here, with the corpse of the house domain controller from ~20 years ago in it. It could do with some re-animation, was a Duron ~800 running Windows 2000 Data Center Server!

But that PSU is not screwed in properly, there needs to be a screw in the hole below the PASS sticker, or the PSU might bang-about.

I was always fond of Duron, even though PC Gamer said it sounded more like a contraceptive than a processor.

Heh, yeah I spotted the PSU. I might just point it out to him, I won't be buying that particular system.

Although I did snag 2 x Pentium 60 computers today for quite cheap, possibly non-running, we'll see 😀

90s PC: IBM 6x86 MX 233MHz. TNT2 M64. 256MB/1GB.
Boring modern PC: i7-12700, RX 7800XT. 32GB/1TB.
Fixer upper project: NEC Powermate 486SX/25. 16MB/400MB.

Reply 52779 of 53355, by rav85

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Geforce 256 Asus V 6800 standard? Deluxe?

Abit NF7-S Barton 2500 + 3200, 1,5GB DDR

Ecs Combo Slot1 + Socket 370

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