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Bought these (retro) hardware today

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Reply 52900 of 53294, by Law212

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nfraser01 wrote on 2024-05-12, 09:38:
Law212 wrote on 2024-05-11, 22:29:

Found another Dell Pentium 2 233 today.
Is the riva 128 a good card? Is the awe 64 good?

Sweet system, lovely case!

Yeah, I love the case. I have found at least 3 Dell Dimension machines, but I love the way this one looks compared to the others.

Reply 52901 of 53294, by dormcat

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demiurge wrote on 2024-05-11, 19:10:

Those stamped seals with 光宇 drew my attention. After checking its page on Ruten, though, I could only say its prices were way too expensive. 🙄

Reply 52902 of 53294, by demiurge

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dormcat wrote on 2024-05-12, 15:32:
demiurge wrote on 2024-05-11, 19:10:

Those stamped seals with 光宇 drew my attention. After checking its page on Ruten, though, I could only say its prices were way too expensive. 🙄

Well you have to compare about what we pay here for retro parts. I paid about 77 US$ which is high, but not stupid high. If you have any retro chipsets missing and need to be logged in the vgamuseum, I would pay those prices all day long. That ones wasn't missing but I wanted that for my personal collection.

Does the 光宇 have any meaning that should be logged on the website?

Reply 52903 of 53294, by schlang

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pete8475 wrote on 2024-05-12, 01:29:

I think the Riva is an interesting relic but not necessarily "good".

I mean riva128 is one of the best DOS/2D performers (if not THE best) and it supports a lot of crazy video modes with native vesa 2.0 bios, what do you need more?

PC#1: K6-III+ 400 | 512MB | Geforce4 | Voodoo1 | SB Live | AWE64 | GUS PNP Pro
PC#2: 486DX2-66 | 64MB | Riva128 | AWE64 | GUS PNP | PAS16
PC#3: 386DX-40 | 32MB | CL-GD5434 | SB Pro | GUS MAX | PAS16

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Reply 52904 of 53294, by Gmlb256

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schlang wrote on 2024-05-12, 21:21:
pete8475 wrote on 2024-05-12, 01:29:

I think the Riva is an interesting relic but not necessarily "good".

I mean riva128 is one of the best DOS/2D performers (if not THE best) and it supports a lot of crazy video modes with native vesa 2.0 bios, what do you need more?

Among the best DOS/2D performers, that honor goes to the S3 Trio3D/2X. With VBE 2.0 onboard, stable Windows 3.x drivers and even crazier amount of video modes that one could dream of, including support for both 24bpp and 32bpp video modes at the same time which is a rarity. 😀

Still, early nVidia hardware have good DOS compatibility and with UniVBE (and some patching for TNT2 and GeForce cards), you get proper 15bpp and some low-resolution VESA video modes that aren't available out of the box.

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Reply 52905 of 53294, by zwrr

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I picked up two good graphics cards at the flea market.

No.1: Diamond Viper V330 PCI, with Video Out, tested it on my Hippo-15 and Cyrix 5x86-120 and it worked great, especially with built-in VBE3.0 support.

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No.2: Number Nine Motion 331, this card is a little confusing to me, I see that most of the photos of this card have 40ns or 45ns of video memory on it, and this one I got is 50ns.

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486DLC-40, 386-VC-H, 32MB, GD5429, ES1868F


X5-133, HIPPO-15, 32MB, Riva 128, ES1868F


5x86-120GP, SYL8884, 32MB, Trio64V+, ES1868F


Pentium MMX-233, T2P4, 128MB, TNT2, SB16


Tualatin-1.4G, 694X, 512MB, G400, Voodoo2, SB AWE32

Reply 52906 of 53294, by appiah4

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schlang wrote on 2024-05-12, 21:21:
pete8475 wrote on 2024-05-12, 01:29:

I think the Riva is an interesting relic but not necessarily "good".

I mean riva128 is one of the best DOS/2D performers (if not THE best) and it supports a lot of crazy video modes with native vesa 2.0 bios, what do you need more?

I use a PCI Riva128 in my Cx5x86 DOS PC and it is the best DOS graphics card I've tried in that system.

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Reply 52907 of 53294, by dormcat

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demiurge wrote on 2024-05-12, 20:04:

Does the 光宇 have any meaning that should be logged on the website?

光宇 is the name of the seller, an e-waste recycler. The store has a Ruten (Taiwan's equivalent of eBay) account with many used electronics for sell. Its pricings, however, are much higher than similar e-waste outlets.

I'm not sure if it's okay to link its auction account here so I won't post it, but here is its location with Google Street View. The sign post says "Electronic cables and component recycling. Business computers and printers. Systems, components, maintenance; used computers for sell."

Reply 52908 of 53294, by PD2JK

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weedeewee wrote on 2024-05-07, 14:59:
PD2JK wrote on 2024-05-07, 14:12:
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Well it's hardware for retro hardware.

A proper diagnostics card. Needless to say, more chips = better. 😉

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The cheapest card (top) works fine in a PCI slot, but in an ISA slot, not so much.

or at least cut the ISA part off.

Consider it done. 😁

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Reply 52909 of 53294, by BitWrangler

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demiurge wrote on 2024-05-11, 19:10:

Oh wow, an actual MediaBus card, have seen the slots, but first time I've seen the card that goes in them.

What board are you going to put that in? Does just the VGA half work if you put it in a regular PCI?

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Reply 52910 of 53294, by demiurge

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BitWrangler wrote on 2024-05-13, 13:47:
demiurge wrote on 2024-05-11, 19:10:

Oh wow, an actual MediaBus card, have seen the slots, but first time I've seen the card that goes in them.

What board are you going to put that in? Does just the VGA half work if you put it in a regular PCI?

So there are two non-compatible versions of mediabus, 1.2 and 2.0. This is a 2.0 and I was thinking maybe a P/I-P55T2P4. I am lead to believe that the PCI part will function in a regular slot.

Reply 52911 of 53294, by johnvosh

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demiurge wrote on 2024-05-11, 19:10:

Very cool looking cards. It's too bad the links you have don't work as I'd like to see what info they have. I tried them in two different browsers and neither of them will load, it just times out.

Reply 52912 of 53294, by darry

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Floppies are missing, but everything else seems there.

EDIT: I think I remember seeing those combo packs at Radio Shack back in the day.

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Reply 52913 of 53294, by Xicor

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Managed to find a PianoBox synthesizer from miditech. It has a SAM9733 with CleanWave32 (at least to my ears...) @ 4Mbits rom. Sounds nice in some games and a bit off in others.

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Inside we can find a Dream SAM 9733 daughterboard. Probably the 2 connectors are for power+ttl uart (J2), and audio out (j1) . Maybe it could be adapted to a waveblaster interface. All for the low price of 25€.

Also found a beautiful Music Quest MQX-16S @ amibay. It was missing the breakout cable, but I managed to fabricate my own, and @ 50€ plus shipping I cant really complain.

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Cant find any manual for this card, and info on it is scarce. It is somewhat similar to the more common IH9MQ9, but the MCU is odd (same family but different pinout/ports). Can one use the firmware from the more common PCMIDI ? Anyone know if there is a more recent eprom version for this card?
PS: you can find my cards dump here https://archive.org/details/mqx-16-s-27-c-128-ver-s-4-009

Found also a cool motherboard, the Elitegroup FX3000. It is capable of using either 386 or 486 cpu's and has a vendor specific local bus.

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Sellers photo...... Expecting some trouble.... just noticed a missing eprom (-‸ლ) .

Reply 52914 of 53294, by Nexxen

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PSU died when the seller turned it on to show me it worked.
Purchase canceled.
The original box was damaged, holding with tape. It was advertised as brand new... guess it served him well.

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Reply 52915 of 53294, by Ozzuneoj

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Xicor wrote on 2024-05-14, 17:39:
Managed to find a PianoBox synthesizer from miditech. It has a SAM9733 with CleanWave32 (at least to my ears...) @ 4Mbits rom. […]
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Managed to find a PianoBox synthesizer from miditech. It has a SAM9733 with CleanWave32 (at least to my ears...) @ 4Mbits rom. Sounds nice in some games and a bit off in others.

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Inside we can find a Dream SAM 9733 daughterboard. Probably the 2 connectors are for power+ttl uart (J2), and audio out (j1) . Maybe it could be adapted to a waveblaster interface. All for the low price of 25€.

Wow, that's cool! I wonder if the board from inside that thing could be adapted to connect to a wavetable header. I would be curious to know what the pinout of those connectors is. 😁

Now for some blitting from the back buffer.

Reply 52916 of 53294, by zwrr

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Got a nice GD5429 ISA with 2MB of 60ns video memory that can be used to replace the GD5422 that is now in use.

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486DLC-40, 386-VC-H, 32MB, GD5429, ES1868F


X5-133, HIPPO-15, 32MB, Riva 128, ES1868F


5x86-120GP, SYL8884, 32MB, Trio64V+, ES1868F


Pentium MMX-233, T2P4, 128MB, TNT2, SB16


Tualatin-1.4G, 694X, 512MB, G400, Voodoo2, SB AWE32

Reply 52917 of 53294, by cyclone3d

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Been looking for one of these for a few years.
Nope, I'm not going to show what all is in the box.
A separate thread will be made about it once I get the time to dig into it.

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Reply 52918 of 53294, by Ozzuneoj

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cyclone3d wrote on 2024-05-15, 04:39:
Been looking for one of these for a few years. Nope, I'm not going to show what all is in the box. A separate thread will be mad […]
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Been looking for one of these for a few years.
Nope, I'm not going to show what all is in the box.
A separate thread will be made about it once I get the time to dig into it.
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Does the name on the box have anything to do with the contents?

I am... intrigued. 😁

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Now for some blitting from the back buffer.

Reply 52919 of 53294, by cyclone3d

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Ozzuneoj wrote on 2024-05-15, 05:11:
cyclone3d wrote on 2024-05-15, 04:39:
Been looking for one of these for a few years. Nope, I'm not going to show what all is in the box. A separate thread will be mad […]
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Been looking for one of these for a few years.
Nope, I'm not going to show what all is in the box.
A separate thread will be made about it once I get the time to dig into it.
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Does the name on the box have anything to do with the contents?

I am... intrigued. 😁

Yes, the contents are in the original box.

I also have another item that goes along with it that I picked up a couple months ago.

Yamaha modified setupds and drivers
Yamaha XG repository
YMF7x4 Guide
Aopen AW744L II SB-LINK