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Bought these (retro) hardware today

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Reply 5600 of 52832, by Robin4

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sliderider wrote:

You need to make your pictures smaller. The forum automatically cuts them off along the right side to prevent side scrolling.

I take these urls from ebay them self, because that hosting is more better then other picture hosters i found.

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Reply 5601 of 52832, by kithylin

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jwt27 wrote:

You know, "1080p" doesn't directly say anything about your horizontal resolution. Cool to see you have one of those modern progressive-scan monitors though!

Sorry, this is some stupid pet peeve of mine.

Actually all screens that are "1080p" are exactly 1920x1080, it's an industry standard, and part of what establishing standards are all about. I own three 1080p TV's and 2 1080p monitors, and they're all 1920x1080 when connected to a PC.

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I take these urls from ebay them self, because that hosting is more better then other picture hosters i found.

It just takes a few seconds to save it to hard drive, right click, open in win7 paint, tell it resize, type in something in the box, click save, and throw it on imgur and get a new url to link to.

Reply 5602 of 52832, by easy_john

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kithylin wrote:

Actually all screens that are "1080p" are exactly 1920x1080, it's an industry standard, and part of what establishing standards are all about. I own three 1080p TV's and 2 1080p monitors, and they're all 1920x1080 when connected to a PC.

How about 1440×1080?

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Reply 5603 of 52832, by Robin4

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I got freakin luck to day! Guess what?? I found a same 286 12/16 switchable motherboard with Simm slots on it:
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Also see this post:
Bought these (retro) hardware today

And i got a Trantor T-130 SCSI card, i will fix it up.
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Reply 5604 of 52832, by kithylin

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easy_john wrote:
kithylin wrote:

Actually all screens that are "1080p" are exactly 1920x1080, it's an industry standard, and part of what establishing standards are all about. I own three 1080p TV's and 2 1080p monitors, and they're all 1920x1080 when connected to a PC.

How about 1440×1080?

Those aren't 1080p screens, obviously.

Reply 5605 of 52832, by smeezekitty

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You know, "1080p" doesn't directly say anything about your horizontal resolution. Cool to see you have one of those modern progressive-scan monitors though!

Sorry, this is some stupid pet peeve of mine.

You are not the only one. I always say 1920x1080.
I really don't like the ambiguity and "industry standards" that can be convoluted.

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Reply 5607 of 52832, by Artex

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PeterLI wrote:

Bought a CT1740 with ASP/CSP today. I will install it in my IBM PC 350.

Nice! ....But somewhat noisy card.

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Reply 5608 of 52832, by easy_john

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Stojke wrote:

Cool, please include some advanced samples as well.
I've seen many people say good things about it.

Made some records.
For example Descent2 http://kawai.spb.ru/files/sound/games/descent2.html (and few other games, follow links).
Ensoniq Soundscape Elite sounds better, then Soundscape s-2000. Effects added and sound-bank is balanced well.

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Reply 5610 of 52832, by Artex

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PeterLI wrote:

I only use SBs and MPU-401s now. SB16s are usually < $25 so that keeps cost under control (I am up to 8 desktops now) and I only need a SB Pro 2 and SB16 directory. Nice & easy. Noise is part of nostalgia for me.

Playing Colonization on a CT2290 this evening. My wife commandeered my desk (dining room table) for Thanksgiving.

I hear ya - no offense on the CT1740 card my friend! I have several of the same and don't mind the 'hiss'. It keeps it 'real' IMO and brings me back to how things just 'were' back in the day. Reminds me how far audio has come.

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Reply 5611 of 52832, by sliderider

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Well I'm viewing it in 1680 x 1050 and the pictures are being cropped down the middle and all I see is the left half of the image and it's been doing this to me for a while now on 3 separate computers, ever since the forum software was last updated.

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Reply 5612 of 52832, by smeezekitty

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sliderider wrote:

Well I'm viewing it in 1680 x 1050 and the pictures are being cropped down the middle and all I see is the left half of the image and it's been doing this to me for a while now on 3 separate computers.

Yeah I am on 1920x1080 and it does it here too. The wider your screen, the more it shows but the forum crops rather than resizes

Reply 5613 of 52832, by sliderider

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Nice job on the 286 motherboard, Robin4. Just remember that on those really old motherboards that the CPU runs at half the frequency of the clock crystal. If you were going to put in a 25mhz Harris/Intersil CPU you would need a 50mhz oscillator and the 287 socket has it's own oscillator and it can be run independently of the CPU frequency.

Reply 5614 of 52832, by Unknown_K

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I won a XFX HD 4650 1GB AGP card on ebay for $10 shipped, the seller broke the power plug off so I had to order a new one for a few dollars and solder it in. Seems to work just fine under XP on a DELL 8300 P4 system except for not seeing my DELL 24" 1080p monitor correctly (using a VGA adapter not DVI).

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Reply 5615 of 52832, by brostenen

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Creative TNT2 Ultra AGP (CT-5823) 32mb.
Nice passive cooled card, that gives my Celeron 300/66fsb 198mb RAM a boost.
It can do 1024x768 16 bit colors fluid in NFS Porche.

Don't eat stuff off a 15 year old never cleaned cpu cooler.
Those cakes make you sick....

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Reply 5616 of 52832, by obobskivich

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Boxed Dxr3 arrived today:
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It is shrinked (still has one of those RFID anti-theft things on it too), but it shows its age. And yes I'm going to open it. 🤣 I'm hoping to put it in my in-progress Win98 build, but if the Dxr3 card itself doesn't co-operate it still means a new drive and software package, which is also fine. 😀

UPDATE

Alright, I really dropped the ball on pictures, but I opened it up and it was indeed brand new - installed it and it all does work. At first I almost had heart failure because the DVD drive wouldn't eject, but what appears to have happened is the "tray" part got dis-oriented in shipping or storage or whenever. I released it with the override pin, and then gently eased it out with a flat-blade screw driver, and heard it "click" into place, and it's worked fine ever since. It's a fairly quiet drive, despite being 40x CD-ROM. 😀

The card itself isn't anything spectacular to behold - it has some EDO memory on it like Voodoo2, some Creative-branded chips, and connectors for your soundcard (if you can't make it out on the box, it says a Sound Blaster compatible card is required - I have mine paired with an SB Live!); it uses those smaller white 4-pin connectors on the board (you can see them in the first picture), which the box included adapter cables for, but if you just found the card/drive loose might be minorly annoying to source. The drive does *not* connect to the card - the manual suggests giving it the secondary IDE channel as master, which I had no problems doing, but does explain the method for setting it up as a slave (apparently you have to mess about with DMA/IRQ settings to confirm that it's accessible to the card if you do this - I didn't really read those sections because they didn't apply to me 🤣).

Once getting Windows installed it's just another "PCI Multimedia Controller" in device manager (note: it was pure hit and miss to figure out which was this card, and which was the Voodoo2 🤣) - the CD refused to run its setup insisting the card was not detected or available, and the floppy disk it came with ran its setup and that didn't help. I had a moment of genius and thought maybe it works like the 3dfx card, and just clicked "Update Driver" and pointed it at the floppy, and indeed it popped right up "Creative Dxr3 Card" and installed with no reboot required. The CD then installed all of the DVD playback stuff, which I briefly tested and it does appear to work - it really does behave just like a hardware DVD player in terms of the buttons and controls it gives you, and PQ looked fine on my monitor at 1024x768. The only thing I've yet to figure out is if the drive can actually read DVD-ROM - I've tried a few and it acts like it has no disc loaded, but DVD-Video is detected and works just fine. Not too much of a travesty though - how many games from the 1990s actually came on DVD-ROM? 🤣

Novelty aside, I'm not actually sure if this thing has any real application - I know back in '01 the P4 this card is installed in did not have anything beyond a GF2 MX, and it played DVDs just fine, and I'm guessing that other machines from around that era would be equally OK. The box says it requires something like a 400MHz CPU to work (I don't know if that could handle DVD playback or not), so I doubt it'd be useful to help out an MMX or PPro with DVD either. Still, a fun little gadget to setup, and it seems to not cause any trouble for my graphics cards, so I figure it can stay with no problems. 😎

Reply 5617 of 52832, by smeezekitty

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AT power supply at the thrift store

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Not sure if it working right though. The 12V reads as 9.8V.
I know it needs a 5V load to be accurate but I have never seen one read that low

Reply 5618 of 52832, by Robin4

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sliderider wrote:

Nice job on the 286 motherboard, Robin4. Just remember that on those really old motherboards that the CPU runs at half the frequency of the clock crystal. If you were going to put in a 25mhz Harris/Intersil CPU you would need a 50mhz oscillator and the 287 socket has it's own oscillator and it can be run independently of the CPU frequency.

I think ill keep it just 12mhz speed.. Maybe i decide later to swap the cpu with an 16mhz one. On the board the processor speed is swichable by a header pin set.. So i can set it to 12mhz or 16mhz..
But when i swapped the cpu to 16mhz, i would use it as 12mhz.. (i think thats fast enough for my, because i have also a 386-40mhz still in progress. ( and also have two XT machines.)

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Reply 5619 of 52832, by kixs

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Robin4 wrote:

I think ill keep it just 12mhz speed.. Maybe i decide later to swap the cpu with an 16mhz one. On the board the processor speed is swichable by a header pin set.. So i can set it to 12mhz or 16mhz..
But when i swapped the cpu to 16mhz, i would use it as 12mhz.. (i think thats fast enough for my, because i have also a 386-40mhz still in progress. ( and also have two XT machines.)

Can you benchmark your 286 on 16MHz with this program - PMIPS and post a screenshot? If possible use the fasted BIOS settings - I know 286 BIOS doesn't have much options - but I think there is 0/1 wait states, so 0 would be faster and enable RAM shadowing.

Thanks!

Requests are also possible... /msg kixs