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Reply 5742 of 52969, by dexter311

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joacim wrote:

I ended up ordering a new-in-package slotket too. The MS-6905 Master from some german seller.

Is that from the CBO-DORTMUND seller? I've had my eye on a couple of those lately.

Reply 5743 of 52969, by AlphaWing

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Why turn a 1tb drive into 30gb one 🤣, I like having alot of storage available.
Promise controllers work fine in 9x, atleast the early Sata 1 ones do, the only issue with them is a long boot delay that develops in 9x after many restarts. If one of the drives attached to it is used to boot from the controller. Can get around that by booting off the mobo's IDE controller via another HD or preferably a CF card.
I have a PIII Tualatin that runs the same controller with 4~1TB drives on it (not in raid), and a P233 with 2x 320gb drives attached to it, via same controller.
The Issue with 9x corrupting data on very large fat32 partitions, is nonexistent on Sata, SCSI, and even other 3rd party IDE controllers.

Reply 5745 of 52969, by phantom_pl

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brostenen wrote:
If you have one such card, try the MT32 emulation on the SB-Live. And then compare it to the Yamaha. Just because they are both […]
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Just bought a Yamaha XG card. I have never had one, and was curious, how does it sounds. I have fed card with 4MB sample bank, a […]
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Just bought a Yamaha XG card. I have never had one, and was curious, how does it sounds.
I have fed card with 4MB sample bank, and started to listen.
Some MIDI files sounds nice, some sounds pale, and some sounds odd.
I launched some old games (Monkey Island 1&2, Police Quest 2), and it doesn't shine neither - but I think these were very old games designed for MT-32, which is a specific card.

If you have one such card, try the MT32 emulation on the SB-Live. And then compare it to the Yamaha.
Just because they are both PCI cards. (and no one have really done this)
Finally, try doing the MT32 emulation on the AWE32 or AWE64 card, if you have that too.

Actually... I would really like to see all sort of MT-32 emulation compared to the real deal.
GUS, Awe-cards, SB-Live and anything that can do such, compared to a real MT-32.
Being done in real MS-DOS (6.22) of course....

According to my knowledge, emulating a MT-32 is a tricky thing, because one allows (via sysex messages) to upload new sounds to MT-32 memory, thus giving it a new, different sounding, and quite a few games used this feature (notably from Sierra, Dynamix, Lucasarts)
And no devices that are compatible on hardware level with MT-32 can understand these sysex data.
Besides, devices that claimed MT-32 compatibility sometimes employed a complete MT-32 sound banks (like Roland Sound Canvas), but sometimes, they just changed sequence its own sound banks, to match MT-32 sounds sequence.
That's why a lot of games, that were designed for MT-32 (and came with their own sounds) sounds odd on other sound devices.

As for comparisons, a lot of this is already done. Look there for example:
http://www.wavetable.nl/
You can also visit QuestStudios site for examples reference MT-32 sound.
Besides I don't have SB-Live 😉

Reply 5746 of 52969, by Skyscraper

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I have bought some new stuff.

The first two cards are not really retro but they will become sought after retro stuff in time.

Geforce 7900 GTX, the optimal DX9 video card (If you do not like beeing smacked in the face repeatedly by the 7950 GX2).
It wasnt very cheap, ~15 Euro + 5 Euro shipping. For some reason the 7900 GTX always seem to sell for "high" prices.

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A boxed XFX Geforce GTX 285 Black edition, the pinnacle of the DX10 Tesla* GPU architecture (*G80, G92, GT200).
An unboxed card sold for below 10 Euro some hours before but I wanted this card... 26 Euro + 5 Euro shipping.

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I did also buy this lot of cards for 30 Euro + 12 Euro shipping , at least the lion share of the cards can be called retro.
My bet is that this will turn out to be a bad deal but with luck at least some of the cards are working.

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Other then the stuff pictured above I did also buy ~25 4mb and 8mb 72pin FPM memory modules for ~10 Euro with shipping.

2X 128 MB 168 pin Samsung 60ns ECC REG EDO ~10 Euro.

Also the stuff in the list below. ~45 Euro for the lot.

PowerLeap K6-adapter Socket 7
HP/3D Labs Oxygen GVX1 OpenGL 32MB
WinFast 3D nVidia TnT2 32MB
Asus AGP-V3400TNT 16MB
Diamond Viper TnT 16MB
STB Velocity 4400 nVidia TnT 16MB
STB Velocity 4400 nVidia TnT 16MB (TV-out)
Matrox Millenium G400+ 16MB
WinFast 3D S320 II TnT2 Pro 16MB (TV-out)
Matrox Millenium G2+ 8MB (G2+/DMILA/8D/CPQ)
Diamond Multimedia Fire GL 1K Pro 8MB
Daytona Trio 3D 4MB AGP
S3 Virge GX2 4MB TV-out

I could have bought ALOT more tested AGP video cards and SB16 sound cards for 1-3 Euro each.

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New PC: i9 12900K @5GHz all cores @1.2v. MSI PRO Z690-A. 32GB DDR4 3600 CL14. 3070Ti.
Old PC: Dual Xeon X5690@4.6GHz, EVGA SR-2, 48GB DDR3R@2000MHz, Intel X25-M. GTX 980ti.
Older PC: K6-3+ 400@600MHz, PC-Chips M577, 256MB SDRAM, AWE64, Voodoo Banshee.

Reply 5748 of 52969, by Skyscraper

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Artex wrote:

Nice work! Quite a haul there!

Yes Im very pleased with most of the deals 😀

The lot with ~30 untested video cards is the only question mark. The seller claims to have tested 11 cards (all working) and then diddnt bother to test the rest... My guess is that he has tested non of the cards but thinks at least a third of them will work. If the cards are looted from recycled computers and not tested most of them will work. If the lot is someones discarded junk pile...

Here is another image of the lot showing some more cards. If just some of the higher end AGP cards turn out to be working the deal will be worth it.

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New PC: i9 12900K @5GHz all cores @1.2v. MSI PRO Z690-A. 32GB DDR4 3600 CL14. 3070Ti.
Old PC: Dual Xeon X5690@4.6GHz, EVGA SR-2, 48GB DDR3R@2000MHz, Intel X25-M. GTX 980ti.
Older PC: K6-3+ 400@600MHz, PC-Chips M577, 256MB SDRAM, AWE64, Voodoo Banshee.

Reply 5749 of 52969, by tokroger

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Couple things wich are new to me 😀

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DTK PAM-0054I E-1, S7 + 2 memorysticks included (and Dallas RTC)

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Jamicom KM-T5-V, S7, P200 MMX

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DTK 200W AT PSU, supposed to be working

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Two old Creative CD-ROMs, CR-563-B (bottom), CR-581M (top)

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ExpertMedia MED 3240/41 (crap but functioning)

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3dfx Voodoo, don´t know brand. There's a scratch upleft but don't think that's going to be a problem...

Reply 5750 of 52969, by nekurahoka

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joacim wrote:
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I've got a new-in-package slotket coming from ebay soon. I plan to do the same. This one has voltage selection down to 1.5v and I have a Tualatin adaptor from my old s370 pc. I'm hoping the combination works for my tualeron. I won the adapter for $8.70 shipped, so if it doesn't work, it's not a big deal. For less than ten bucks, it's worth the experiment. I'll post back with findings.

I ended up ordering a new-in-package slotket too. The MS-6905 Master from some german seller. My motherboard supports voltages down to 1.5V (at least it is selectable in the bios), so I don't need to adaptor to do that, but it is a nice feature to have. 😀

Now I just need a nice Celeron.

Got the slotket last night. Tested this morning and it's a no-go with this board. I tested with my Dell XPS and it wouldn't post. I figured ahead of time that the board wouldn't support the voltage, which means I'll have to look for a Powerleap or something similar. I still have a mendocino Celeron I can use with the slotket, but I won't be using it on my Dell. It'll go in the PC-Chips build and it'll still be an upgrade for that system.

Dell Dimension XPS R400, 512MB SDRAM, Voodoo3 2000 AGP, Turtle Beach Montego, ESS Audiodrive 1869f ISA, Dreamblaster Synth S1
Dell GH192, P4 3.4 (Northwood), 4GB Dual Channel DDR, ATI Radeon x1650PRO 512MB, Audigy 2ZS, Alacritech 2000 Network Accelerator

Reply 5751 of 52969, by Skyscraper

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A few hours after I posted pictures (from the auction) here showing some AGP cards sold in a lot I got the box with the cards.

I had told the seller to pack the cards well so they could not scratch each other during transport.
This is what I got, notice all the small dents on the inside of the box from the cards tumbleing around during transport.

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The 30 or so video cards turned in to 30 or so video cards with loads of scratches and some extra lose bits. Very nice.
The first card I tried, a Radeon 9600 pro with lots of scratches and somewhat dodgy caps seem to work well.

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New PC: i9 12900K @5GHz all cores @1.2v. MSI PRO Z690-A. 32GB DDR4 3600 CL14. 3070Ti.
Old PC: Dual Xeon X5690@4.6GHz, EVGA SR-2, 48GB DDR3R@2000MHz, Intel X25-M. GTX 980ti.
Older PC: K6-3+ 400@600MHz, PC-Chips M577, 256MB SDRAM, AWE64, Voodoo Banshee.

Reply 5752 of 52969, by Artex

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Skyscraper wrote:
A few hours after I posted pictures here about some AGP cards sold in a lot I got the box with the cards. […]
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A few hours after I posted pictures here about some AGP cards sold in a lot I got the box with the cards.

I had told the seller to pack the cards well so they could not scratch each other.
This is what I got, notice all the small dents on the inside of the box from the cards tumbleing around during transport.

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The 30 or so video cards turned in to 30 or so video cards with loads of scratches and some extra lose bits. Very nice.
The first card I tried, a Radeon 9600 pro with lots of scratches and somewhat dodgy caps seem to work well.

That's why I tend to stray from these lot sales. Thinking about what's happening during shipping is like nails on a chalkboard for me. Hope everything works out for you though! I'll cross my fingers for you! 🤣

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Reply 5753 of 52969, by sliderider

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Thanks! And now I got a sweater to match it XD […]
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Thanks! And now I got a sweater to match it 🤣

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Looks like a mash-up of Duke Nukem and Vault Boy from Fallout 3.

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Reply 5754 of 52969, by ReeseRiverson

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Well, this is pretty sweet, still factory sealed computer! Complete in box! I almost don't want to open it! 😎

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It'd be ultra cool if I could get the original monitor for this thing.

Reply 5755 of 52969, by sliderider

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@ Skyscraper

You shouldn't expect anyone selling scrap lots of computer parts to pack them to prevent them from getting damaged. The whole point of making a bulk lot and labeling it as scrap is to save on packing time and material and to not have to accept returns when half the parts don't work when they arrive because theya re being sold as junk to begin with. That's the reason why so many sellers are selling as-is, untested, scrap, junk, non-functioning, or as a collectible now. They don't have to deal with with returns when what they sell breaks and they can make a case against ebay if they force a refund even though the listing said it didn't work all along.

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