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Reply 7160 of 52819, by easy_john

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Soldered manually, with lot of rosin(is it right word for flux?).
All board contain smd only components, so all soldered by robot, and only header required manual soldering.

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Reply 7161 of 52819, by Kodai

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easy_john wrote:

Soldered manually, with lot of rosin(is it right word for flux?).
All board contain smd only components, so all soldered by robot, and only header required manual soldering.

Yeah rosin is correct (its made from pine tree sap), but the word flux is the best word to use for most chemicals used to work with molted metal. I buy good old rosin based flux by the pint and use it in large amounts, but I always clean well after I'm done. I guess that's what it looks like after not being cleaned for 20+ years. Since it acts like an acid, it might be best to wash that area down with some IPA and elbow grease.

Reply 7162 of 52819, by glutamin

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hard1k wrote:
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Why do the back of the header pins look burnt?

That's the question I always asked myself looking at every XR385 I came across...

This is not my card, just a similar. There is no burnt pin on mine. Unfortunatelly I dont have currently such a soundcard which can use this. I have a generic ESS card with wave table connector and an SB16 clone but it cant handle such a big extension. I should get another sound card for testing.

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Reply 7163 of 52819, by easy_john

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You can buy ribbon cable, two 26-pin connectors (male and female) fix them on cable and connect DB to WBH.
Just ensure, that cable not very long (less 15 sm) and board don't touch anything.

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Reply 7166 of 52819, by RacoonRider

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sliderider wrote:
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look at pcb on other side, it has a dvi section and behind second section for vga.
Simply, it can be vga conn here or dvi. Nothing less, nothing more.

But Matrox has 2 long connectors and only 1 optional DVI. Aesthetics? Mine is exaclty the same on the other side btw.

The Matrox is a dual head card.

http://www.matrox.com/graphics/en/products/le … /g_series/g450/

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They use two long connectors, why not a short one and a long one?

Reply 7168 of 52819, by mwdmeyer

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I believe that is an A-Trend card. Love me some Voodoos!

Just picked up these today.

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Reply 7170 of 52819, by mwdmeyer

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Pretty sure. Can you read out the full ATC-24xx number on the back? A-Trend made a lot of Voodoo cards with the part number ATC-24xx.

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Reply 7172 of 52819, by mwdmeyer

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Here you go:

http://www.falconfly.de/identify-3dfx.htm

392-0465-BOAR10
ATC-2465 (Sticker)

ColorMaster

VoodooMania
Voodoo Dragon

http://www.falconfly.de/identify/ColorMaster_ … nia_Voodoo1.jpg

Might be made by ATC but rebranded, but maybe not!

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Reply 7173 of 52819, by oerk

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Wow, thank you!

That's interesting because I already have a ColorMaster VoodooMania II in another system, seeking a second one. It should work with an A-Trend Helios 3D Voodoo2 in SLI, right? Since the ColorMaster seems to be a rebranded A-Trend.

Reply 7175 of 52819, by Lukeno94

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oerk wrote:

Wow, thank you!

That's interesting because I already have a ColorMaster VoodooMania II in another system, seeking a second one. It should work with an A-Trend Helios 3D Voodoo2 in SLI, right? Since the ColorMaster seems to be a rebranded A-Trend.

You bought a Voodoo 1, did you not? ATC-2465 are Voodoo 1s anyway, and I'm pretty sure you can't SLI up Voodoo 1s with Voodoo 2s.

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Reply 7176 of 52819, by tayyare

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kixs wrote:

With the last drivers any V2 card can work in SLI.

I don't think this is true, according to my experience. I have six Voodoo 2's (all 12MB), two Diamond Monsters, a STB, a Creative and two other types. Apart from the two identical Diamond Monsters, only one combination works in SLI, although they work 100% correctly while alone. I tried both original and new drivers (Windows 98 and Windows 95).

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Reply 7177 of 52819, by oerk

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Lukeno94 wrote:
oerk wrote:

Wow, thank you!

That's interesting because I already have a ColorMaster VoodooMania II in another system, seeking a second one. It should work with an A-Trend Helios 3D Voodoo2 in SLI, right? Since the ColorMaster seems to be a rebranded A-Trend.

You bought a Voodoo 1, did you not? ATC-2465 are Voodoo 1s anyway, and I'm pretty sure you can't SLI up Voodoo 1s with Voodoo 2s.

My question was about Voodoo 2s, namely A-Trend vs. Colormania.

I know I bought a V1 😀

Reply 7178 of 52819, by kixs

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tayyare wrote:
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With the last drivers any V2 card can work in SLI.

I don't think this is true, according to my experience. I have six Voodoo 2's (all 12MB), two Diamond Monsters, a STB, a Creative and two other types. Apart from the two identical Diamond Monsters, only one combination works in SLI, although they work 100% correctly while alone. I tried both original and new drivers (Windows 98 and Windows 95).

Try with this drivers:
http://www.3dfxzone.it/dir/news/3dfx/fastvoodoo2_4.6/

This release does possible running games on Voodoo2 SLI configurations done by mismatched cards: we remember mismatched means two no same manufacturer boards go to make up your Voodoo2 SLI setup: for example one arrives from Creative and one from Diamond.

Requests are also possible... /msg kixs

Reply 7179 of 52819, by tayyare

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kixs wrote:
tayyare wrote:
kixs wrote:

With the last drivers any V2 card can work in SLI.

I don't think this is true, according to my experience. I have six Voodoo 2's (all 12MB), two Diamond Monsters, a STB, a Creative and two other types. Apart from the two identical Diamond Monsters, only one combination works in SLI, although they work 100% correctly while alone. I tried both original and new drivers (Windows 98 and Windows 95).

Try with this drivers:
http://www.3dfxzone.it/dir/news/3dfx/fastvoodoo2_4.6/

These drivers were one of the drivers that I tried, but downloaded from here:

http://www.falconfly.de/voodoo2.htm

GA-6VTXE PIII 1.4+512MB
Geforce4 Ti 4200 64MB
Diamond Monster 3D 12MB SLI
SB AWE64 PNP+32MB
120GB IDE Samsung/80GB IDE Seagate/146GB SCSI Compaq/73GB SCSI IBM
Adaptec AHA29160
3com 3C905B-TX
Gotek+CF Reader
MSDOS 6.22+Win 3.11/95 OSR2.1/98SE/ME/2000