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Reply 9180 of 52819, by Skyscraper

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Creative Geforce 3 Ti500 (MS-8853) arrived today 😀 Managed to find one, plenty of Ti200s out there.

If something is marked "MS-xxxx VER:xxx" then its probably a card made by MicroStar and not Creative? not that it matters at all 😀

Perhaps Creative bought Microstar cards and relabled them, I know there are PNY cards marked with the same markings so perhaps Microstar built most reference cards back then?

Last edited by Skyscraper on 2015-10-02, 17:48. Edited 1 time in total.

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Reply 9181 of 52819, by foey

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Skyscraper wrote:
foey wrote:

Creative Geforce 3 Ti500 (MS-8853) arrived today 😀 Managed to find one, plenty of Ti200s out there.

If something is marked "MS-xxxx VER:xxx" then its probably a card made by MicroStar card and not Creative? not that it matters at all 😀

Perhaps Creative bought Microstar cards and relabled them, I know there are PNY cards marked with the same markings.

When I google MS-8853, your right it comes back with some of the MS brand, however it has the Creative Logo on the fan and Creative markings on the rear. It also "Feels" creative, if you get what mean?! 🤣

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Reply 9182 of 52819, by Skyscraper

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foey wrote:
Skyscraper wrote:
foey wrote:

Creative Geforce 3 Ti500 (MS-8853) arrived today 😀 Managed to find one, plenty of Ti200s out there.

If something is marked "MS-xxxx VER:xxx" then its probably a card made by MicroStar card and not Creative? not that it matters at all 😀

Perhaps Creative bought Microstar cards and relabled them, I know there are PNY cards marked with the same markings.

When I google MS-8853, your right it comes back with some of the MS brand, however it has the Creative Logo on the fan and Creative markings on the rear. It also "Feels" creative, if you get what mean?! 🤣

I have two of the Compaq branded Ti200 version made by Microstar, both are working great 😀

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Reply 9183 of 52819, by kixs

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I recently bought two different Ti200 from different sellers and both not working 🙁 Bought as not tested as most of this old hardware can't be tested now a days. But no Ti500 in my area so far.

Requests are also possible... /msg kixs

Reply 9184 of 52819, by Skyscraper

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I made an useful investment 😀

I have two working dual Pentium Pro boards which should support 1MB cache CPUs, One ATX "AIR P6NDI" and one AT "Tyan S1662 Titan Pro". I also have a finished NT4 system with a PR440FX ATX board but it officially only supports 512KB cache CPUs which it already runs overclocked at 3.5x70=245MHz. Trying to overclock 1MB CPUs to 233 or 245 MHz on the Intel board would be risky and at 200 or 210 MHz I dont think they would be an upgrade at all.

As a coincidence I found an auction with 4 Pentium Pro 200 MHz 1MB cache CPUs. 2+2=4...

The seller was from the US and if the CPUs get stuck in "the net" the price will end up ~10% more than the price would have been from the cheapest UK seller, if they slip through they will be ~15% cheaper. The cheapest UK seller only had 3 left though and I prefer to buy 4 even if I only will use two right now as I dont believe the price will go down any time soon.

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Last edited by Skyscraper on 2015-10-03, 10:13. Edited 1 time in total.

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Reply 9185 of 52819, by adalbert

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I just got two mainboards - Tualatin compatible MSI 694T Pro and super 7 DFI P5BV3+/e with K6-2 533 CPU, with AGP slot, and also a Celeron 366 with a slotket adapter. I paid equivalent of 9EUR for that, including shipping, these things were sold as junk (with exception of Celeron) and there was a lot of dirt on them. These are the photos I got from the seller.

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When I unpacked everything, i noticed that the 694t mainbord is demolished - it had 2 capacitors, one diode and part of memory slot torn off. I got equv. 2,5 EUR refund for that one because it looked different than on photo. But I really wanted to have a Tualatin mainboard, so I tried to repair it... First, I needed to clean it with compressed air and wipe the sticky dirt with alcohol and brush.

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I took an different, damaged mainboard and cut off a part of memory slot with a dremel-like tool. I extracted only the plastic part.

Then I straightened the pins, soldered one new pin, and I did some milling and polishing on the remaining part of memory slot, so it has no jagged edges. I also put some force on the plastic so it became straight. Then I soldered two capacitors (I assummed that they had to be 1000uF), and soldered a regular Schottky diode (had no SMD one and I wanted the repair to be costless). I assumed it had to be Shottky because all of the diodes with that size were Schottky on this mainboard.

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Finally, it was time to test it. Before I put the plastic part on the slot, I just pushed a PC133 module in and squeezed the pins. I couldn't believe that, but the computer worked! I put the plastic cover on memory slot pins and I have now a frankenstein-mainboard with tualatin support for free. It is rock-stable, I did benchmarks for several hours and no bluescreens at all. It also overclocks nice, and has about 420MB/s memory bandwith and doesn't need any interleave-enabler patches. But it still looks pretty "unfresh", i couldn't clean all the impurities.

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Super 7 mainboard - it also required some cleaning, it had one big scratch on the back side, so i sanded the solder mask in one place and just put some solder there, then covered it with transparent tape. I also replaced one capacitor. After this, it looked like a new! I set the jumpers properly, turned it on, and... it also worked!

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Well, I think that getting all this stuff for ~6,5EUR isn't a bad deal. Caps would cost ~0,2EUR and the diode ~0,02EUR, but i already had them.

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Reply 9186 of 52819, by ODwilly

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Nice job on the repair and congrats on getting a sick motherboard!

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Reply 9188 of 52819, by Brickpad

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Just arrived in the mail today. Paid only $19.95 + Free Shipping on Ebay. This drive is practically mint. 😁 Also purchased an Acculogic ISApport ISA SCSI/Floppy controller card for the drive for $8.95 + free shipping from the same company.

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Reply 9189 of 52819, by brassicGamer

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I saw 5.25" hard disks back in the late 90s but I've never seen a full height one!

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Reply 9190 of 52819, by Lukeno94

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Bought another Dell Latitude D600 to cut up for parts. It was listed in the shop as not powering and having a bad screen - but it immediately powered on when I plugged it in and hit the button. 30GB HDD (very noisy though), 1GB RAM, DVD drive, plus a PCMCIA WiFi card that works. Screen was dead, so I took apart the D600 with a bad RAM slot, took parts across - and it came on perfectly. But then, after being off for a while, it failed to fire the screen up again, no matter how many times I tried to reboot it - and one time, it failed to power as well.

The fix? Remove the battery. All the above issues went away, and the screen it came with fired right up on the D600 I took apart. Everything else works perfectly on this system, as far as I can tell. It wasn't a bargain by any means, although given that it was complete sans charger, the asking price looks a lot better for a perfectly fine laptop bar the battery, rather than a dead one with a dead screen!

Reply 9191 of 52819, by meljor

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Found these 2 maps in very good condition with windows 1.02 disks and some other software. 1985!
Never saw this windows version anywhere in real life. It was offered for FREE so i had to grab them, just paid for sending.

Compleet with manual etc. so very nice i think 😀

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Reply 9192 of 52819, by CelGen

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Skyscraper wrote:

Does anyone know what the ISA card is? Is it a very early SCSI card or is it something other interesting or something totally useless? 😀

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Looks a lot like an ISA version of the multiport serial card that's in my PS/2 model 80. That ceramic chip is probably an 80186 but the giant SLT chip totally gives away that it was an IBM product.

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Reply 9193 of 52819, by Skyscraper

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CelGen wrote:
Skyscraper wrote:

Does anyone know what the ISA card is? Is it a very early SCSI card or is it something other interesting or something totally useless? 😀

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Looks a lot like an ISA version of the multiport serial card that's in my PS/2 model 80. That ceramic chip is probably an 80186 but the giant SLT chip totally gives away that it was an IBM product.

Yea that was I was thinking and more advanced I/O cards like advanced early SCSI controllers and the like often had a whole system on the card, I have a SCSI HDD tower with a 486 DX4 controller.

Multiport serial card sounds *cough cough* useful, I bet there is a very special breakout cable only seen for sale once in a blue moon for a price in the same range as I paid for the whole lot with shipping 😀

Thanks for the help with the identifying, we will know for sure when I get the card in a week or so.

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Reply 9194 of 52819, by sf78

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Got this beauty from a flea market for 10e. I vowed never to touch these ICL's, but the price was too tempting. It's a 486DX2-66/12Mb/430Mb/Vibra16. It also has this really weird card that gives 6V for the riser card. What the hell?! 😕

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Reply 9196 of 52819, by MrTentacleGuy

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I picked up a 15" Packard Bell 5480 monitor at a thrift store for $5. Sound and video work great.

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Reply 9197 of 52819, by Skyscraper

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sf78 wrote:

Got this beauty from a flea market for 10e. I vowed never to touch these ICL's, but the price was too tempting. It's a 486DX2-66/12Mb/430Mb/Vibra16. It also has this really weird card that gives 6V for the riser card. What the hell?! 😕

That seems like a nice deal, I think that ICL case looks great 😀

I have not bought anything except an AMD DX2-66 with a cooler for 1 euro + 6 euro shipping. I need more 486 coolers and the one with a CPU included was the cheapest I could find.

I did NOT buy the super early 386 motherboard with a 20 MHz 386 and 8x1MB SIPP memory for 26 euro, only the memory is worth what it went for and the shipping was cheap aswell.
I did NOT buy the 48 CPUs including both a Pentium Pro, some 486 CPUs and loads of Pentium and Pentium MMX CPUs that went for 16 euro wiith cheap shipping.

I have enough stuff incoming as it is so Im taking a short Ebay break, that dosnt keep me from looking though and there were lots of good stuff to be had for cheap this weekend.

New PC: i9 12900K @5GHz all cores @1.2v. MSI PRO Z690-A. 32GB DDR4 3600 CL14. 3070Ti.
Old PC: Dual Xeon X5690@4.6GHz, EVGA SR-2, 48GB DDR3R@2000MHz, Intel X25-M. GTX 980ti.
Older PC: K6-3+ 400@600MHz, PC-Chips M577, 256MB SDRAM, AWE64, Voodoo Banshee.