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Reply 11340 of 52968, by BloodyCactus

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So I picked up a Roland SC88VL in white... pretty nice.

Interestingly, I knew you can swap sc55/sc88 maps but I did not know you can press a button when turning the power and it will boot into CM64 mode.. I wonder if that will give me the extra sound effects like a real CM32/CM64... if I get the extra CM32/64 sound effects out of it, thats a pretty sweet bonus I didnt count on... gotta wait for a couple of cables to show up before I can test that theory!

got version up, v1.04. 110200104

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I pulled the battery after this screenshot, no leakage..
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Reply 11341 of 52968, by brostenen

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Imperious wrote:

That Commodore 116 is fairly rare and they are worth a few $$$.

See http://www.plus4world.com/

Have no idea. It will be put on display in my computer room.
So yeah. Money is not what I am thinking in.
Just happy to have had one of those up close in person. 😀

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Reply 11342 of 52968, by brostenen

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Skyscraper wrote:

I think the seller is a Vogons/Amibay member! 😀

I especially like that "Free Computer Technology, Inc. CACHE 486 ISA BABY". That is an awesome name for a motherboard, I bet it wasnt for free though!
https://th99.bl4ckb0x.de/m/E-H/30243.htm

It is all part of a hardware-swap. Giving something and recieving something. 😀
It's my time to send something to the other part now.

The 486 board is working, as I have had it booting MS-Dos-6.22 today.
Now I have to hunt for a new battery for that 486 board, as the old barrel was removed.

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Reply 11343 of 52968, by kanecvr

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Imperious wrote:

That Commodore 116 is fairly rare and they are worth a few $$$.

See http://www.plus4world.com/

I don't even know if the 116 works (it did ~8 years ago) and I had no means of testing it. I got it for free myself, I wasn't using it and I tough it would be better to gift it to someone who has some experience with these kinds of machines and might actually enjoy using it 😀 Knowing it's making someone happy is worth more then whatever I could have sold it for untested.

BloodyCactus wrote:

So I picked up a Roland SC88VL in white... pretty nice.

Yes, it is!

I swear, one day I'm gonna take the plunge and spend 100e + shipping one an external MIDI module - be it an MT32, SC55, SC88 or a Yamaha - I've been drooling over one for way too long.

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Reply 11344 of 52968, by Skyscraper

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brostenen wrote:
It is all part of a hardware-swap. Giving something and recieving something. :-) It's my time to send something to the other par […]
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Skyscraper wrote:

I think the seller is a Vogons/Amibay member! 😀

I especially like that "Free Computer Technology, Inc. CACHE 486 ISA BABY". That is an awesome name for a motherboard, I bet it wasnt for free though!
https://th99.bl4ckb0x.de/m/E-H/30243.htm

It is all part of a hardware-swap. Giving something and recieving something. 😀
It's my time to send something to the other part now.

The 486 board is working, as I have had it booting MS-Dos-6.22 today.
Now I have to hunt for a new battery for that 486 board, as the old barrel was removed.

I bought a bunch of barrel batteries from Jameco Electronics.

These to be exact.
http://www.jameco.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servl … 0001_2137473_-1

They will get cought in the customs net though so it's probably much better to order some cheap ones from China on Ebay. I only bought batteries from Jameco as I needed other stuff not available in the EU or on Ebay so the customs handling fee I would have got in any case, the only extra added fee for the batteries was Swedish VAT.

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Reply 11345 of 52968, by BloodyCactus

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kanecvr wrote:
BloodyCactus wrote:

So I picked up a Roland SC88VL in white... pretty nice.

Yes, it is!

I swear, one day I'm gonna take the plunge and spend 100e + shipping one an external MIDI module - be it an MT32, SC55, SC88 or a Yamaha - I've been drooling over one for way too long.

yeah I really wanted a sc88pro but the only ones were in japan, shipping is too much $$$$ from japan to usa. this one showed up local so was super super cheap, less than shipping alone from one of the japanese ones..

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Reply 11346 of 52968, by brostenen

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BloodyCactus wrote:

So I picked up a Roland SC88VL in white... pretty nice.

Nice catch. 😜 Is it just me, or does that thing look brand spanking new?

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Reply 11347 of 52968, by BloodyCactus

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brostenen wrote:
BloodyCactus wrote:

So I picked up a Roland SC88VL in white... pretty nice.

Nice catch. 😜 Is it just me, or does that thing look brand spanking new?

no some scratches on the top but the front + back is pristine (nobody hunted blindly to plug cables in). my guess, it got setup and put on a shelf and left in production and controlled via computer (it was set for pc input, not midi).

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Reply 11348 of 52968, by candle_86

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Lukeno94 wrote:

"Sun Cheer"? That sounds like some bottom-of-the barrel PSU. No idea if it actually is or not though!

I've always had good luck with bottom feeders, Allied PSU's that no one will touch have always worked for me, so has coolmax, but on the other hand Enermax and Antec's always give me issues 🤣.

Reply 11349 of 52968, by HighTreason

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Cheap PSUs have generally been fine for me too, but that might be because I make a point of not loading any PSU particularly hard. I generally aim for 50% max on cheaper supplies and 75% on better supplies.

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Reply 11350 of 52968, by MMaximus

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BloodyCactus wrote:

So I picked up a Roland SC88VL in white... pretty nice.

Looks cool in white. It's also one of the less common Edirol-branded versions.

As far as I know the CM-64 mode doesn't give you extra sound effects, it just remaps the internal sounds so that music composed for CM-64 will sound right. I think the extra "sound effects" that Roland added in the CM-32L that were not present in the MT-32 were brought to the SC-55 native map and are part of the drum part on the SC-55 anyway. All the other MT-32 sounds that were not already present in the SC-55 were sampled and added to the SC-55 "CM-64 mode" - however they don't sound as rich or interesting because they lack this L.A. synthesis character.

Since you already own an MT-32, I guess what you could try if you want to play a specific game that uses the extra CM-32L sound effects is:

- connect the two modules in series
- have the game output music to the MT-32
- mute channel 10 on the MT-32
- mute all parts on the SC-88 except channel 10

this way you would have proper MT-32 soundtrack but the drum part with the sound effects would be output by the SC-88

Disclaimer: I've actually never tried it - it's just an idea and I don't even know if it would work 100% correct 😀

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Reply 11351 of 52968, by kithylin

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HighTreason wrote:

Cheap PSUs have generally been fine for me too, but that might be because I make a point of not loading any PSU particularly hard. I generally aim for 50% max on cheaper supplies and 75% on better supplies.

I usually over-plan power supplies too, but the only time I've run one 100%/100% was a seasonic platinum I bought. I actually ran it at about 115% daily. It finally did give out but held up to that abuse daily for 2.5 years first.

Reply 11352 of 52968, by Lukeno94

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I had a CIT 450W cheap piece of junk that I'm pretty sure helped hastened the end of two (admittedly fairly tired) motherboards. I then switched to an OCZ 550W, and had no problems for years - touchwood, my Corsair 750W is just as reliable.

Reply 11353 of 52968, by tikoellner

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So many purchases these days!

1) Yesterday I bought Sound Blaster PRO 2 CT1600 for 15$ shipped (http://allegro.pl/isa-sound-blaster-ct1600-gw … 5879004405.html)

2) Today I bought Sound Blaster AWE32 CT2760 with 2mb of ram onboard for around 45$ shipped (http://www.ebay.pl/itm/ISA-Soundkarte-Creativ … 1cAAOSwGYVW~kqq) and IBM 5x86c-100.

cannot wait to get my hands on this HW.

BTW - do you think that the price I paid is OK?

Reply 11354 of 52968, by Skyscraper

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So many purchases these days!

1) Yesterday I bought Sound Blaster PRO 2 CT1600 for 15$ shipped (http://allegro.pl/isa-sound-blaster-ct1600-gw … 5879004405.html)

2) Today I bought Sound Blaster AWE32 CT2760 with 2mb of ram onboard for around 45$ shipped (http://www.ebay.pl/itm/ISA-Soundkarte-Creativ … 1cAAOSwGYVW~kqq) and IBM 5x86c-100.

cannot wait to get my hands on this HW.

BTW - do you think that the price I paid is OK?

The price for the CT2760 is usually $50+ and and the CT1600 is ~$35. The prices you paid sound really good to me.

Other AWE32 cards such as the CT3980 or CT3990 can often be had for $30 - $40 but those are PnP cards.

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Reply 11355 of 52968, by tikoellner

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Well, the only models I was considering were CT3900 and CT2760, and I'm actually very happy to get the first version - CT2760, along with the PRO 2 for use with older DOS games with no SB16 support.

Reply 11356 of 52968, by matze79

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Bought a Aztech Sound Galaxy BX II 8Bit ISA Card with OPL2 😀

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Reply 11357 of 52968, by Cyrix200+

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I needed a USB floppydrive and saw this nice IBM one. Looks brand new and came in a nice bag 😀

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And found this Asus V9180SE for 50 cents at my local thrift store. Google tells me it's a eForce4 MX 440 64MB:

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Reply 11358 of 52968, by clueless1

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Just won an auction for a Pentium Overdrive 200MMX for $18.16 shipped. Considering how rare these are on ebay (the only "Buy Now" one I could find up to now was $49), I'm happy.

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Reply 11359 of 52968, by Skyscraper

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clueless1 wrote:

Just won an auction for a Pentium Overdrive 200MMX for $18.16 shipped. Considering how rare these are on ebay (the only "Buy Now" one I could find up to now was $49), I'm happy.

Grats that was a nice deal! 😀

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