HighTreason wrote:

With an increasing reliance on Clouds, I wouldn't be at all surprised to see similar devices pop up again in the next decade, though with some differences reflecting the changes to technology since of course.

This is essentially what the Chromebooks/Chromeboxes are, no?

I had no idea of their existence, except in name, so if you say so. Evidently my suspicions were correct then, just a little ahead of time. Welcome to the 1960's, where thin clients are the future.

They were the next big thing indeed, a quote from http://www.beincorporated.com/press/pressrele … _q3results.html:

"We will continue to prudently manage our expenses as we take the actions necessary to allow us to fully participate in the Internet appliance market. Independent market research firms, including IDC, eTForecasts and Jupiter, have forecasted dramatic increases in Internet appliance shipments next year. We anticipate recognizing revenue in 2001 from shipments of BeIA-enabled Internet appliances. As our balance sheet indicates, we have more than adequate cash reserves to maintain our current level of expenditures well into 2001. In addition, the Company is considering various capital strategies for the future,'' stated Mr. Berndt

Yet another item from my Watch list I really had to bid on.

This is a nice cacheless 386 DX25 motherboard with FPU and some cards. I really like the look of this motherboard, another fact that cought my attention is the 8bit jumper on the Trident VGA.

The newer tomato sized 386 motherboards might be cheaper, faster and often have cache sockets but these older motherboards sold while the 386 was still high end is in another liege quality wise.

386 mainboard "386A". with cards. The seller picture.

The Trident TVGA9000C 512KB VGA with 8 bit jumper. The sellers picture.

A better picture from the net showing the motherboard model. I have not researched who the manufacturer is yet, perhaps someone here on Vogons knows?

Skyscraper wrote:

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Yet another item from my Watch list I really had to bid on.

This is a nice cacheless 386 DX25 motherboard with FPU and some cards. I really like the look of this motherboard, another fact that cought my attention is the 8bit jumper on the Trident VGA.

The newer tomato sized 386 motherboards might be cheaper, faster and often have cache sockets but these older motherboards sold while the 386 was still high end is in another liege quality wise.

386 mainboard "386A". with cards. The seller picture.

The Trident TVGA9000C 512KB VGA with 8 bit jumper. The sellers picture.

A better picture from the net showing the motherboard model. I have not researched who the manufacturer is yet, perhaps someone here on Vogons knows?

Nice catch! I dream of finding something like this.

Cyrix200+ wrote:

Skyscraper wrote:

Yet another item from my Watch list I really had to bid on. […]
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Yet another item from my Watch list I really had to bid on.

This is a nice cacheless 386 DX25 motherboard with FPU and some cards. I really like the look of this motherboard, another fact that cought my attention is the 8bit jumper on the Trident VGA.

The newer tomato sized 386 motherboards might be cheaper, faster and often have cache sockets but these older motherboards sold while the 386 was still high end is in another liege quality wise.

386 mainboard "386A". with cards. The seller picture.

The Trident TVGA9000C 512KB VGA with 8 bit jumper. The sellers picture.

A better picture from the net showing the motherboard model. I have not researched who the manufacturer is yet, perhaps someone here on Vogons knows?

Nice catch! I dream of finding something like this.

This bundle was listed under Computers/Tablets & Networking --> Vintage Computing --> Vintage Computers. It was searchable from ebay.co.uk but it would not not have come up if you searched for "386 motherboard".

My best tip is if you want a really nice 386 motherboard for a good price is to search for "386" and nothing more under "Vintage Computing" as many items are named in German or French. If you can be bothered to skim through 2 billion ink cartridges for printers it can be worth to search the whole Computers/Tablets & Networking section. More specific searches generate items everyone else also will find and there are seldom any real deals to be had. Be vary of motherboards with 3.6V NiCd batteries as high quality boards are unfortunately not immune to corrosion, good pictures are key to be able to tell how much corrosion there is if any.

The package above set me back 40 euro + 17 euro shipping. This is not cheap at all compared to many working Tomato 386 boards with "some corrosion" but I find it a bargain considering what it is.

EDIT

I found the "386A" motherboard at stason.org, the manufacturer is... unknown 😀

http://stason.org/TULARC/pc/motherboards/U/UN … D-386-386A.html

Im going to guess it's an Advanced Computer Technology, LTD. motherboard. They have made other very similar boards like this one.

Some evil scrapper bastards image.

/EDIT

Already posted this in another thread but thought it warranted posting here too.

I made the kind of catch I have been dreaming of. On one of my regular searches for vaguely-named items, I found something listed as 'computer parts'. The description was no more informative but the seller's photos were. There was a VLB graphics card branded 2TheMax.

Chipset unidentifiable from the pictures but some research hinted I could be looking at an ARK1000 or ET4000. Either would obviously have been spectacular given that I paid 10GBP for it. And sure enough...

It's an ET4000 W32i

Now all I need is a reliable VLB board.

ASUS VL/I-486SV2G
intel 486DX2-66
16MB (2 x 8MB) 72-pin (FPM) DRAM 32-bit

Tsenglabs ET4000-W32i (VLB)

CT1750 SoundBlaster 16

and misc

Skyscraper wrote:

the ED SC-D70 but the reason I have been on the lookout for this one is that its the only one with digital out and selectable 44/48kHz sampling rate..

how well does it do the 55/88 maps being they were 32khz and the D70 is 44/48khz... ?

Oh dear... I think I have a problem.

I just found this cute little old drop-in arcade box for $120 shipped...

... When I zoomed in and saw the 3dfx logo on the back of the card, it piqued my interest. When I discovered that it is a Quantum3D Graphite system, I couldn't help myself. 😮

It's very similar to this:
http://www.thedodgegarage.com/3dfx/q3d_graphite.htm

It is running "Arctic Thunder". It is apparently not working, but its basically a standard PC with some extras tacked on. From looking online it sounds like the PSU often goes in these (not a surprise since they ran all day and all night). If I can't fix it, I'll just figure out a way to use a standard one.

Either way though... a complete Quantum3D Graphite system for $120 isn't bad. 😊

brassicGamer wrote:

Already posted this in another thread but thought it warranted posting here too. ... It's an ET4000 W32i […]
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Already posted this in another thread but thought it warranted posting here too.
...
It's an ET4000 W32i

Now all I need is a reliable VLB board.

and

simbin wrote:

...
Tsenglabs ET4000-W32i (VLB)...

That's coincidence 😀 Nice finds!

Cyrix200+ wrote:

Would be interesting to see some benchmarks of both boards in similar systems to show up how much difference a manufacturer can […]
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brassicGamer wrote:

Already posted this in another thread but thought it warranted posting here too. ... It's an ET4000 W32i […]
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Already posted this in another thread but thought it warranted posting here too.
...
It's an ET4000 W32i

Now all I need is a reliable VLB board.

Would be interesting to see some benchmarks of both boards in similar systems to show up how much difference a manufacturer can make to a chipset's performance.

and

simbin wrote:

...
Tsenglabs ET4000-W32i (VLB)...

That's coincidence 😀 Nice finds!

Would be interesting to see benchmarks for both boards in similar systems to show up how a board manufacturer can affect the performance of the same chipset

Just won this thing. It was listed as 'portable sound card for laptop' 😀

BloodyCactus wrote:

Skyscraper wrote:

the ED SC-D70 but the reason I have been on the lookout for this one is that its the only one with digital out and selectable 44/48kHz sampling rate../quote]

how well does it do the 55/88 maps being they were 32khz and the D70 is 44/48khz... ?

Im not not really sure yet. But i do not think the sampling rate is the deciding factor. The SC-55 map of the SC-D70 sounds exactly like the one the SC-8820 uses from what I have read. The Roland Sound Canvas VA VSTi Plugin! should also sound like the ED modules?

The issue is more how good is the SC-55 map in the ED-series. It's perfect if you ask Roland, not that good if you ask Wikipedia. The information on Wikipedia is a copy paste from some old site about sound canvas modules though. From what I have read people are satisfied with using the SC-8820 for GM games.

My guess is that if you are a musician and want something composed on the SC-55 to sound exactly as you composed it the SC-8820/SC-8850/SC-D70 won't cut it but otherwise they sound fine. I will know for sue when I have got the unit and tested it.

Half-Saint wrote:

Just won this thing. It was listed as 'portable sound card for laptop' 😀

$_57.JPG

Wow! Those things never come up!

I'm quite excited with my new motherboard that has just arrived to my office:

it's an A-Trend ATC-1452B with my favourite i486 DX2 66mhz onboard.

I'm overly impressed wit the quality I'm facing here. It seems more solid than my previous ZIDA 4DPS.

I'll use it with my new build with:

- IBM 5x86c-100 (blue heatsink!)
- 32mb RAM (4x8)
- SOUND BLASTER AWE32 C2760 + Yamaha daughterboard (just got one on my local auction service) + SB PRO 2
- CF card + 20gb Seagate Barracuda ATA IV
- Number Nine Motion 331 (S3 Trio 64 based) 4mb;
- This AT case (seems like early 90's to me. Love the switch on the side!): ;
- Chicony KB-5191 mechanical keyboard ('88)

Not sure about the CRT. IBM PS/2 would be prepared.
Hope you like it.

PeterLI wrote:

Finally found a Philips P 3238, my childhood PC, after searching for 5+ years. 😀

Have seen that ad on marktplaats. Nice find. I'm still searching for the p2230 we had as our first dos pc.

brassicGamer wrote:

Cyrix200+ wrote:

Would be interesting to see some benchmarks of both boards in similar systems to show up how much difference a manufacturer can […]
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brassicGamer wrote:

Already posted this in another thread but thought it warranted posting here too. ... It's an ET4000 W32i […]
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Already posted this in another thread but thought it warranted posting here too.
...
It's an ET4000 W32i

Now all I need is a reliable VLB board.

Would be interesting to see some benchmarks of both boards in similar systems to show up how much difference a manufacturer can make to a chipset's performance.

and

simbin wrote:

...
Tsenglabs ET4000-W32i (VLB)...

That's coincidence 😀 Nice finds!

Would be interesting to see benchmarks for both boards in similar systems to show up how a board manufacturer can affect the performance of the same chipset

I'll post a link in my Sig to benchmarks and more info when it's all done. I'm still trying to decide what audio gear to get. 😀

tikoellner wrote:

I'm quite excited with my new motherboard that has just arrived to my office: […]
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I'm quite excited with my new motherboard that has just arrived to my office:

it's an A-Trend ATC-1452B with my favourite i486 DX2 66mhz onboard.

I'm overly impressed wit the quality I'm facing here. It seems more solid than my previous ZIDA 4DPS.

I'll use it with my new build with:

- IBM 5x86c-100 (blue heatsink!)
- 32mb RAM (4x8)
- SOUND BLASTER AWE32 C2760 + Yamaha daughterboard (just got one on my local auction service) + SB PRO 2
- CF card + 20gb Seagate Barracuda ATA IV
- Number Nine Motion 331 (S3 Trio 64 based) 4mb;
- This AT case (seems like early 90's to me. Love the switch on the side!): ;
- Chicony KB-5191 mechanical keyboard ('88)

Not sure about the CRT. IBM PS/2 would be prepared.
Hope you like it.

That is a lovely build. The only thing that isn't to my liking is the case. I like to go with cases that have a MHz display for 486 machines. Don't get me wrong, the case you have is awsome - i'd love to use something like this for a 286 or early 386 system.

tikoellner wrote:

I'm quite excited with my new motherboard that has just arrived to my office: […]
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I'm quite excited with my new motherboard that has just arrived to my office:

it's an A-Trend ATC-1452B with my favourite i486 DX2 66mhz onboard.

I'm overly impressed wit the quality I'm facing here. It seems more solid than my previous ZIDA 4DPS.

<snip>
I'll use it with my new build with:

- IBM 5x86c-100 (blue heatsink!)
- 32mb RAM (4x8)
- SOUND BLASTER AWE32 C2760 + Yamaha daughterboard (just got one on my local auction service) + SB PRO 2
- CF card + 20gb Seagate Barracuda ATA IV
- Number Nine Motion 331 (S3 Trio 64 based) 4mb;
- This AT case (seems like early 90's to me. Love the switch on the side!): <snip>;
- Chicony KB-5191 mechanical keyboard ('88)

Not sure about the CRT. IBM PS/2 would be prepared.
Hope you like it.

My only dislike is if you put a heatsink and/or fan on that cpu (I know most folks say they don't need it... I still cool all my 486's anyway) then all your pci slots are blocked by it. So no voodoo2 in windows 95 with a fast 133 chip on that board.

Also.. your 5.25" floppy drive is upside down 😁