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Reply 17800 of 52876, by NamelessPlayer

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Cyrix200+ wrote:

Active cooling on a Matrox card? It might have been a G400 MAX. Which I would like to own myself 😀

Phil did a video on it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BinfyV_PdSc

The G400 MAX is a dead ringer for what I saw in that shop, so I think you've identified it quite easily.

Maybe I should go back and nab it for you, since you show interest in it. Better than letting it languish in a parts bin, at any rate.

Reply 17801 of 52876, by matze79

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a couple of XTIDE CF Adapter PCBs,

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Reply 17802 of 52876, by TheAbandonwareGuy

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NamelessPlayer wrote:
Cyrix200+ wrote:

Active cooling on a Matrox card? It might have been a G400 MAX. Which I would like to own myself 😀

Phil did a video on it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BinfyV_PdSc

The G400 MAX is a dead ringer for what I saw in that shop, so I think you've identified it quite easily.

Maybe I should go back and nab it for you, since you show interest in it. Better than letting it languish in a parts bin, at any rate.

Isn't it also more.than possible someone just strapped a fan or new heatsink onto another Matrox model? Youve got to watch out for you eyes seeing what they want to see and not what's actually in front of them in this hobby.

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Reply 17803 of 52876, by TheAbandonwareGuy

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matze79 wrote:

a couple of XTIDE CF Adapter PCBs,

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That's not a couple. That's like 8.

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Reply 17804 of 52876, by Cyrix200+

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TheAbandonwareGuy wrote:
NamelessPlayer wrote:
Cyrix200+ wrote:

Active cooling on a Matrox card? It might have been a G400 MAX. Which I would like to own myself 😀

Phil did a video on it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BinfyV_PdSc

The G400 MAX is a dead ringer for what I saw in that shop, so I think you've identified it quite easily.

Maybe I should go back and nab it for you, since you show interest in it. Better than letting it languish in a parts bin, at any rate.

Isn't it also more.than possible someone just strapped a fan or new heatsink onto another Matrox model? Youve got to watch out for you eyes seeing what they want to see and not what's actually in front of them in this hobby.

Yes, verifying that it is indeed a G400 MAX is a good idea.

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Reply 17805 of 52876, by WildW

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This bad-boy arrived this morning, so I have some minor desktop surgery to do on my Athlon 64 DOS/9x/XP machine.
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And this just arrived too. . . not crazy exiting but it is definitely retro because of the Windows/Novel NetWare logos on the box
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Oh, cool, it is Y2k compliant, handy.
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Reply 17806 of 52876, by i486_inside

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I bought 5 new 10 packs of FujiFilm High Density 5.25 floppies for $27 shipped on eBay and I was looking around later and found a pack of Dysan 100 HD disks for $3 so I bought those it was $6 shipped. I almost ended up with 10 boxes of DSDD disks but luckily I was outbid the last second for some reason I had thought the auction said they were high density disks.

Reply 17807 of 52876, by TheAbandonwareGuy

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i486_inside wrote:

I bought 5 new 10 packs of FujiFilm High Density 5.25 floppies for $27 shipped on eBay and I was looking around later and found a pack of Dysan 100 HD disks for $3 so I bought those it was $6 shipped. I almost ended up with 10 boxes of DSDD disks but luckily I was outbid the last second for some reason I had thought the auction said they were high density disks.

Aren't lower capacity disks more useful from a technological compatibility standpoint?

Its nice to have a disk thats universally forward compatible with newer drives. The more modern high capacity disks will always be more common too.

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Reply 17808 of 52876, by i486_inside

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TheAbandonwareGuy wrote:
i486_inside wrote:

I bought 5 new 10 packs of FujiFilm High Density 5.25 floppies for $27 shipped on eBay and I was looking around later and found a pack of Dysan 100 HD disks for $3 so I bought those it was $6 shipped. I almost ended up with 10 boxes of DSDD disks but luckily I was outbid the last second for some reason I had thought the auction said they were high density disks.

Aren't lower capacity disks more useful from a technological compatibility standpoint?

Its nice to have a disk thats universally forward compatible with newer drives. The more modern high capacity disks will always be more common too.

To me it seems lower capacity disk are much more common because they were used in a wider variety of machines through out the 80s, the High Density 5.25 drives started to catch on towards the end of the 80s but were rather quickly superseded by the 3.5 micro floppy in the early 90s. Also I've heard that 1.2mb drives have trouble writing to 360k disk, usually it writes to them just fine and the disc can be read perfectly in a 1.2mb drive but a 360k drive will have trouble reading it.

Reply 17809 of 52876, by fitzpatr

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Today I visited a man's "Basement Sale" where he had a bunch of PC stuff. Primarily laptops. I was able to get a Voodoo Banshee and the two Socket 7 coolers for $4 Canadian!

Then he pointed out this Mediavision Audioport Parallel Sound Adapter. It is reminiscent of a Covox. It has 8-bit sound and has a small speaker, headphone out and mic in!

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Reply 17810 of 52876, by NamelessPlayer

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Cyrix200+ wrote:
TheAbandonwareGuy wrote:

Isn't it also more.than possible someone just strapped a fan or new heatsink onto another Matrox model? Youve got to watch out for you eyes seeing what they want to see and not what's actually in front of them in this hobby.

Yes, verifying that it is indeed a G400 MAX is a good idea.

It's kinda hard for me to verify the card without actually buying the card and putting it into a working PC, but this I can tell you: the G400 MAX card Phil had in that video is a dead ringer for what I saw in that shop, PCB-wise.

How often does Matrox reuse PCB layouts across their card generations?

Reply 17811 of 52876, by TheAbandonwareGuy

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NamelessPlayer wrote:
Cyrix200+ wrote:
TheAbandonwareGuy wrote:

Isn't it also more.than possible someone just strapped a fan or new heatsink onto another Matrox model? Youve got to watch out for you eyes seeing what they want to see and not what's actually in front of them in this hobby.

Yes, verifying that it is indeed a G400 MAX is a good idea.

It's kinda hard for me to verify the card without actually buying the card and putting it into a working PC, but this I can tell you: the G400 MAX card Phil had in that video is a dead ringer for what I saw in that shop, PCB-wise.

How often does Matrox reuse PCB layouts across their card generations?

Based on google image results the G400 and G400 max appear to have nearly identical PCBs.

BTW.. does anyone think Voodoo prices will ever go back down to where normal people can afford them? I can't for the life of me understand what's driving prices to the point where a V4 4500 sells for $123 on eBay. I'm really hoping I'll live long enough to see V2s go back where they were a few years ago. There can't be enough interest to sustain a market like that, my basic understanding of economics dictates that a high price/low target audience item economy like that is very prone to a crash.

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Reply 17812 of 52876, by NamelessPlayer

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TheAbandonwareGuy wrote:

Based on google image results the G400 and G400 max appear to have nearly identical PCBs.

I thought the G400 only had a single VGA output going off of Phil's video, but it turns out there's passively-cooled ones as well, that being the main point of differentiation from the MAX.

I'll go take a look next time I get to drop by there.

Reply 17813 of 52876, by Munx

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1€ Diamond monster 2!

Came with driver CD and passthrough cable, though its only the 8MB model.

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Reply 17814 of 52876, by meljor

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NamelessPlayer wrote:
TheAbandonwareGuy wrote:

Based on google image results the G400 and G400 max appear to have nearly identical PCBs.

I thought the G400 only had a single VGA output going off of Phil's video, but it turns out there's passively-cooled ones as well, that being the main point of differentiation from the MAX.

I'll go take a look next time I get to drop by there.

I have 2 G400 cards and 2 G400max cards and they are all identical pcb and all have dual output.

The only differences are that the g400max has a small active heatsink and the g400 has a slightly bigger passive heatsink.
Biggest difference is the g400max has 5ns memory chips and g400 has 6ns chips as the last one has lower clockspeeds.

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Reply 17815 of 52876, by meljor

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Munx wrote:

1€ Diamond monster 2!

Came with driver CD and passthrough cable, though its only the 8MB model.

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Nice! Want to double your money? 🤣

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Reply 17816 of 52876, by Deksor

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I've found all of this in a garage sale. I paid ~25€ for all of this :

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An Aztech sound card with an OPL3 chip and an Oak piece of crap

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Two 3Com etherlink III cards.

Not looking so great for 25€ ? Wait ! There's more !

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Eight PCI 3Com etherlink with most of them having boot roms. Sweet ! I needed some more of these.

Now let's see what we have next ...

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TEN freaking voodoo 3 3000 !! 🤣
One of them misses it's bracket, 2-3 of them have a little bit of rust on them and some of them are missing one or two caps, but hey that's still looking pretty good !

But there is still one thing left

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A Diamond EDGE 3240 (so an NVidia NV1 !) 😲 . I thought I'll never ever see this in my life. However I just have the card, I don't have the joystick port adapter, the Saturn connector bracket ... But that's still an awesome find !

I did buy some other things such as a boxed sidewinder joystick (there is no manual or driver CD that came with it though), a PCMCIA ethernet card, but I was lazy ^^

Now I'm going to test all of these. I don't think I'm going to keep all of them (who would need 10 3Dfx voodoo 3 ?), I'm planing on exchanging them with some other sweet stuff ^^

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Reply 17818 of 52876, by havli

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Deksor wrote:

TEN freaking voodoo 3 3000 !! 🤣
One of them misses it's bracket, 2-3 of them have a little bit of rust on them and some of them are missing one or two caps, but hey that's still looking pretty good !

Nice find, non-TV-OUT V3 3000 are quite rare. 😀

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Reply 17819 of 52876, by Munx

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meljor wrote:
Munx wrote:

1€ Diamond monster 2!

Came with driver CD and passthrough cable, though its only the 8MB model.

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Nice! Want to double your money? 🤣

Sorry, I tend to stay away from too-good-to-be-true deals 🤣

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The FireStarter 2.0 - The wooden K5
The Underdog - The budget K6
The Voodoo powerhouse - The power-hungry K7
The troll PC - The Socket 423 Pentium 4