appiah4 wrote:

BitWrangler wrote:

I presume you mean on the highest "official" socket 7 bus speed of 66mhz, at 6 x 66. ... because there was a 550mhz part.

Edit: Though even then you could get faster with a K6-3, 2+, 3+.
EditII: Though that was only intel triton class anyway, there was Via VPs that officially supported 83, so topped at 500, but weren't super by the 100mhz def.

Well, I thought Socket 7 ended with 66MHz, above that is Super Socket 7, no? The 550 MHz part will only work as fast as a K6-2 400 in all 66MHz Socket 7 boards..

I think there is no real definition of Super Socket 7. I feel that SS7 is Socket 7 + AGP + 100MHz FSB (+extra voltages support). But you can find a lot of dicussion on this topic on Vogons). I had a Intel TX chipset with a 2x75MHz 150MHz Cyrix PR200+ CPU. Out of spec for Socket 7, but no SS7.

Got this AL440LX Atlanta motherboard for cheap. Unfortunately, it's a Micron OEM (not Intel retail). Weird enough, it came with a Pentium II 450 Deschutes CPU (of course it booted up to 300 MHz) along with 2x 32MB of some DIMM memory.

A Diamond Monster Fusion 16MB AGP

Two ISA Soundcards for really cheap

dexvx wrote:

Got this AL440LX Atlanta motherboard for cheap. Unfortunately, it's a Micron OEM (not Intel retail). Weird enough, it came with […]
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Got this AL440LX Atlanta motherboard for cheap. Unfortunately, it's a Micron OEM (not Intel retail). Weird enough, it came with a Pentium II 450 Deschutes CPU (of course it booted up to 300 MHz) along with 2x 32MB of some DIMM memory.

The DIMM looks like EDO or FPM but the AL440LX manual says SDRAM only. Interesting.
For the CPU I guess Intel couldn't fulfill Micron's demand of 300MHz PIIs so they just shipped 450MHz ones instead.

dexvx wrote:

Got this AL440LX Atlanta motherboard for cheap. Unfortunately, it's a Micron OEM (not Intel retail). Weird enough, it came with a Pentium II 450 Deschutes CPU (of course it booted up to 300 MHz) along with 2x 32MB of some DIMM memory.

https://i.imgur.com/ZMel7c0h.jpg

And the CPU fan is installed backwards, heh (blows at the DIMMs instead of into the heatsink). I doubt that cools very well.

SW-SSG wrote:

dexvx wrote:

Got this AL440LX Atlanta motherboard for cheap. Unfortunately, it's a Micron OEM (not Intel retail). Weird enough, it came with a Pentium II 450 Deschutes CPU (of course it booted up to 300 MHz) along with 2x 32MB of some DIMM memory.

https://i.imgur.com/ZMel7c0h.jpg

And the CPU fan is installed backwards, heh (blows at the DIMMs instead of into the heatsink). I doubt that cools very well.

One thing I learnt when I work on my computers: always have the fan going the right way on the heatsinks. I even added a cooling fan to a VooDoo3 3000 PCI card's heatsink, and that's working very well.

Cyrix200+ wrote:

I got another nice old Tulip system again. This one is a Tulip at compact 3, a 286 system. It looks really similar in build to t […]
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I got another nice old Tulip system again. This one is a Tulip at compact 3, a 286 system. It looks really similar in build to the PC compact 2 I have, it will be nice to compare. It came with an ATi VIP combined EGA/VGA card (just bought one a few weeks ago...) and the original paperwhite VGA monitor, which is also quite nice 😀 That is a bit of an oddity and I like that. The system does come with some problems, and someone has been poking around in there without much love. It will be fun to get it up and running again!

i thought Tulips were the soviet IBM PC response? Why was the hard drive made in Colorado?...

Why were the RAM chips made in Texas?

You know what though, I need to save that pic as OEM precedent if anyone ever asks me "Why the hell is your case fan on the outside of your case???" (Because it gives you an inch or two more room inside dolt.)

bjwil1991 wrote:

SW-SSG wrote:

dexvx wrote:

Got this AL440LX Atlanta motherboard for cheap. Unfortunately, it's a Micron OEM (not Intel retail). Weird enough, it came with a Pentium II 450 Deschutes CPU (of course it booted up to 300 MHz) along with 2x 32MB of some DIMM memory.

https://i.imgur.com/ZMel7c0h.jpg

And the CPU fan is installed backwards, heh (blows at the DIMMs instead of into the heatsink). I doubt that cools very well.

One thing I learnt when I work on my computers: always have the fan going the right way on the heatsinks. I even added a cooling fan to a VooDoo3 3000 PCI card's heatsink, and that's working very well.

Yeah, this is really important.

Back in the day when I was doing onsite Dell warranty repair, there was a huge number of Dimension 4600 desktops that had the exhaust/CPU cooling fan installed backwards. This resulted in the heat from the CPU heatsink being blown directly onto the sticks of RAM.

It also made everything else in the systems run way hotter than normal.

This led to fried HDDs, motherboards and RAM.

First thing I would do when I got a call for a Dimension 4600 was to verify that the fan was installed the correct way. On some it would fix the issue entirely. On others I would have to order more parts if the ones that Dell sent were not the correct ones to fix the issue.

cyclone3d wrote:

Yeah, this is really important. […]
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Yeah, this is really important.

Back in the day when I was doing onsite Dell warranty repair, there was a huge number of Dimension 4600 desktops that had the exhaust/CPU cooling fan installed backwards. This resulted in the heat from the CPU heatsink being blown directly onto the sticks of RAM.

It also made everything else in the systems run way hotter than normal.

This led to fried HDDs, motherboards and RAM.

First thing I would do when I got a call for a Dimension 4600 was to verify that the fan was installed the correct way. On some it would fix the issue entirely. On others I would have to order more parts if the ones that Dell sent were not the correct ones to fix the issue.

I learnt that the hard way when I was cleaning a Dell Dimension E510 when I was applying new thermal paste, installed the heatsink backwards, and it would turn off. Dummy me realized the heatsink wasn't installed correctly. After placing the heatsink in the right orientation, it started to work. The way I can tell the heatsink fan was backwards was the F1 Fighter Jet taking off (fan going into 8K RPM) and after that fix, the fan went back to the 3K-4K RPM speed.

TheAbandonwareGuy wrote:

i thought Tulips were the soviet IBM PC response? Why was the hard drive made in Colorado?...

They were a Dutch company. http://www.computinghistory.org.uk/det/8372/Tulip-Computers/

debs3759 wrote:

TheAbandonwareGuy wrote:

i thought Tulips were the soviet IBM PC response? Why was the hard drive made in Colorado?...

They were a Dutch company. http://www.computinghistory.org.uk/det/8372/Tulip-Computers/

To some people any socialist country is the Soviet Union...even in the 1990s (the Soviets Union disbanded in 1989). 🤣

yawetaG wrote:

To some people any socialist country is the Soviet Union...even in the 1990s (the Soviets Union disbanded in 1989). 🤣

To some, anywhere with free healthcare are red flag waving communists 😁

BitWrangler wrote:

yawetaG wrote:

To some people any socialist country is the Soviet Union...even in the 1990s (the Soviets Union disbanded in 1989). 🤣

To some, anywhere with free healthcare are red flag waving communists 😁

I've never seen a free healthcare... It's just packaged differently. Usually you pay automaticaly from your paycheck. But when you need the doctor and want a faster treatment, you pay again out of your wallet. At least this is how this "free" healthcare works here 😵

dexvx wrote:

Got this AL440LX Atlanta motherboard for cheap. Unfortunately, it's a Micron OEM (not Intel retail). Weird enough, it came with a Pentium II 450 Deschutes CPU (of course it booted up to 300 MHz) along with 2x 32MB of some DIMM memory.

You probably already know this, but that board is one of the really nifty ones with the built in Yamaha + General MIDI sound chips. I haven't gotten one of these yet myself, but they are apparently very versatile and a great setup for DOS games.

If any of you guys could give me a suggestion on a good Socket 370 motherboard that supports Tualatin CPUs and fits this port layout:

it would be much appreciated. I have been trying to hunt down an AOpen AX34-U, but those just seem impossible to find. That board fits everything I am looking for. Any other suggestions would be welcome.

Ozzuneoj wrote:

dexvx wrote:

Got this AL440LX Atlanta motherboard for cheap. Unfortunately, it's a Micron OEM (not Intel retail). Weird enough, it came with a Pentium II 450 Deschutes CPU (of course it booted up to 300 MHz) along with 2x 32MB of some DIMM memory.

You probably already know this, but that board is one of the really nifty ones with the built in Yamaha + General MIDI sound chips. I haven't gotten one of these yet myself, but they are apparently very versatile and a great setup for DOS games.

According to Red Hill's guide, the 450s were halo products in early/mid 99 and due to stupendous price, barely sold, then even when it was middling to bottom end didn't sell so great either, so I don't know if that means there were never very many around or what. However, I also obtained a 450, in a way that was also a "That's odd there's a 450 in here" so I'm wondering if that came on an LX board too.... oddness, maybe there was a point where 450s and LX boards were getting dumped cheap enough that those combos made sense.

liqmat wrote:

If any of you guys could give me a suggestion on a good Socket 370 motherboard that supports Tualatin CPUs and fits this port layout:

portlayout.jpg

it would be much appreciated. I have been trying to hunt down an AOpen AX34-U, but those just seem impossible to find. That board fits everything I am looking for. Any other suggestions would be welcome.

A bunch of Gigabyte boards have that layout although the last two ports on the right may be blank on some boards.

liqmat wrote:

If any of you guys could give me a suggestion on a good Socket 370 motherboard that supports Tualatin CPUs and fits this port layout:

portlayout.jpg

it would be much appreciated. I have been trying to hunt down an AOpen AX34-U, but those just seem impossible to find. That board fits everything I am looking for. Any other suggestions would be welcome.

For native Tualatin motherboard, MSI 694T Pro, QDI Advance 10T-A if you want onboard sound.
The MSI 6309 V2 has the same port arrangement but it's a Coppermine only board. However, you can flash the BIOS with a custom microcode to let it accept Tualatins. I had one in my PC and used the South Korean pin modded 1.4 Tualatin along with the custom BIOS and ran like a breeze. The same CPU is working great on the QDI Advance 10T now (mine has no onboard sound though), a native Tualatin motherboard.

I find the MSI 6326 815 Pro better die to intel chipset used, and support of tualatins...