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Reply 20960 of 52879, by Predator99

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TheAbandonwareGuy wrote:
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Good news: Got a very very cheap graphics update for my computer :cool: :cool: :cool: Both GTX 460 and GTX 570 from this scra […]
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Do the GTX 460 and GTX 570 work? I think those will be go to retro cards in around 20 years when were using Windows Quantum for our main PCs.

Good news: Got a very very cheap graphics update for my computer 😎 😎 😎 Both GTX 460 and GTX 570 from this scrap lot are working now! The 460 just needed some reboots, did nothing more.

But I was more interested in the 570 as it is the fastest GPU I own so far. It already showed some display errors in the BIOS and was not correctly detected under Windows. I didnt see any damage on it. So I decided to give it a try in the oven. I removed all platic parts and the cooler. Then I re-inserted the naked PCB to give it a last try. And...display errors gone and works 😎 😎 😎

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2x 460 in SLI would be faster in supported games.

Anywho do you still plan on posting about the rest of the stuff in the lots?

Unfortunately my Mainboard das not support Nvidia SLI.

See my post on top of page 1048 for the other parts. Everything else was not that interesting for me...

Reply 20961 of 52879, by Predator99

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Bunch boards found locally, in the next quarter, for about 30 usd.

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The EGA seems to be missing the ROM, do you have a replacement?

Also an unusual PCI-IDE cache controller. Isnt that SIMM memory slower than the PCI bus?

Reply 20962 of 52879, by Cyrix200+

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Predator99 wrote:
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Bunch boards found locally, in the next quarter, for about 30 usd.

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The EGA seems to be missing the ROM, do you have a replacement?

Also an unusual PCI-IDE cache controller. Isnt that SIMM memory slower than the PCI bus?

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Reply 20963 of 52879, by derSammler

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Predator99 wrote:

Also an unusual PCI-IDE cache controller. Isnt that SIMM memory slower than the PCI bus?

The point is that the SIMMs are used for caching and are faster then the connected IDE hard disk drives. I own that controller too, incl. the legacy ISA board. DOS and Windows 3.x are blazing fast with it. When using Win9x, however, speed increase is none, as Windows 9x disk cache is just as effective. Still the RAID feature is nice. Unfortunately, even with the last BIOS, there is no support for larger drives. The limit is 4 GB, or maybe 2 GB. Can't remember exactly.

Reply 20964 of 52879, by BloodyCactus

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Reply 20965 of 52879, by SteveC

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Is 2011 retro enough, or should this be in the modern section? A Matrox quad output PCIe graphics card:

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I only wanted the cable, but it was cheaper to buy the card too (came in at just under £20 delivered). Another Matrox to add to my collection... I have about 7 or 8 now so I think I'll do quick roundup video on them.

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Reply 20966 of 52879, by liqmat

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Was going to start a different thread, but I thought I would just stick it here. Santa came early and this year is a refresh my retro hardware tools year for me. So this week a new solder station, 8 gallon air compressor (canned air doesn't cut it) and a gyroscopic electric screwdriver (after using one of these never going back) came down the chimney. Ready for more restoration in 2018 now.

Reply 20967 of 52879, by cyclone3d

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Guessing that it is not the best driver for it then.

No way. You only need to init c-media chip, to be able utilize mpu401 port. The synt itself is rom based and not configurable.

Why would it be clicking then? The Dream wavetable chips are really nicer. Maybe a timing issue or something buggy with the c-media implementation?

I don't see why a company would release a card like that if it had clicking problems.

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Reply 20968 of 52879, by xjas

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SteveC wrote:
Is 2011 retro enough, or should this be in the modern section? A Matrox quad output PCIe graphics card: […]
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Is 2011 retro enough, or should this be in the modern section? A Matrox quad output PCIe graphics card:

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I only wanted the cable, but it was cheaper to buy the card too (came in at just under £20 delivered). Another Matrox to add to my collection... I have about 7 or 8 now so I think I'll do quick roundup video on them.

Cheers,
Steve

What chip is on that? I found a Matrox card with a GeForce chipset (FX 5xxx or something IIRC) in a box of scrap a while ago. Was kinda surprised. (I actually thought they got out of the desktop market years earlier.)

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Reply 20969 of 52879, by easy_john

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I don't see why a company would release a card like that if it had clicking problems.

You never see a very cheap Chinese soundcards, that sounds worse than expected?? We have a lot of them back in the early 90's...

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Reply 20970 of 52879, by appiah4

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Matrox are still in the workstation graphics market actually, but I never heard of any matrox desktop card with an nvidia gpu, would love to see a photo.

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Reply 20971 of 52879, by TheAbandonwareGuy

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Matrox are still in the workstation graphics market actually, but I never heard of any matrox desktop card with an nvidia gpu, would love to see a photo.

IIRC all there current boards are NVIDIA based and optimized for extreme professional multidisplay. Supposedly they have one that supports 18 displays.

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Reply 20972 of 52879, by Eleanor1967

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TheAbandonwareGuy wrote:

IIRC all there current boards are NVIDIA based and optimized for extreme professional multidisplay. Supposedly they have one that supports 18 displays.

Actually, they are AMD based. (Which makes sense in my book since AMD is pushing a lot of displays for years now, e.g. HD 5870 Eyefinity 6)

Reply 20973 of 52879, by PcBytes

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Bought some boards:

ASUS P4P800/GD - basically a P4P800-SE which in turn is a vanilla P4P800 Rev 2.0 without 1394 and all the special stuff. Came with a nice 2.60GHz Northwood HT!
Intel D845WN - PC133 SDRAM S478 board. Replaced a few bad caps near the CPU and one RAM slot and now POSTs happily with a Willamette 1.6GHz.
Gigabyte GA-7N400E-L - nF2 board with 4(!) slots of RAM. Shame it's the "E" version, as there's a "non-E" version that supports dual-channel. Otherwise a pretty nice nF2 400 MB.

The D845WN also came with a free KeyMouse 500W PSU,a Lite-On DVD-ROM drive and a TEAC CD-RW.

Your thoughts on the boards?

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Reply 20974 of 52879, by TheAbandonwareGuy

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Bought some boards:

ASUS P4P800/GD - basically a P4P800-SE which in turn is a vanilla P4P800 Rev 2.0 without 1394 and all the special stuff. Came with a nice 2.60GHz Northwood HT!
Intel D845WN - PC133 SDRAM S478 board. Replaced a few bad caps near the CPU and one RAM slot and now POSTs happily with a Willamette 1.6GHz.
Gigabyte GA-7N400E-L - nF2 board with 4(!) slots of RAM. Shame it's the "E" version, as there's a "non-E" version that supports dual-channel. Otherwise a pretty nice nF2 400 MB.

The D845WN also came with a free KeyMouse 500W PSU,a Lite-On DVD-ROM drive and a TEAC CD-RW.

Your thoughts on the boards?

No but I wouldn't trust that PSU with more than 300w. Sounds like a knockoff. Reminds me very much of my experience with a Sharktech "650w" PSU that ended up melting power cord into the socket. I didn't find out because the machine kept rebooting and I was looking for other issues. All I had on it was an E8400 and an 8800GTX. So it only had around 400w of load on it if that.

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Reply 20975 of 52879, by Skyscraper

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I just bought two of these D34088-001

I found out that lumps of copper aren't very cheap unfortunately. These two coolers did cost me £50 shipped and I still don't have any proper backplates so I will have to improvise a bit. When it comes to buying stuff for "odd socket" builds buying motherboard + CPU bundles with coolers and mounting kits already included makes morse sense for sure.

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Reply 20976 of 52879, by PcBytes

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TheAbandonwareGuy wrote:
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Bought some boards: […]
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Bought some boards:

ASUS P4P800/GD - basically a P4P800-SE which in turn is a vanilla P4P800 Rev 2.0 without 1394 and all the special stuff. Came with a nice 2.60GHz Northwood HT!
Intel D845WN - PC133 SDRAM S478 board. Replaced a few bad caps near the CPU and one RAM slot and now POSTs happily with a Willamette 1.6GHz.
Gigabyte GA-7N400E-L - nF2 board with 4(!) slots of RAM. Shame it's the "E" version, as there's a "non-E" version that supports dual-channel. Otherwise a pretty nice nF2 400 MB.

The D845WN also came with a free KeyMouse 500W PSU,a Lite-On DVD-ROM drive and a TEAC CD-RW.

Your thoughts on the boards?

No but I wouldn't trust that PSU with more than 300w. Sounds like a knockoff. Reminds me very much of my experience with a Sharktech "650w" PSU that ended up melting power cord into the socket. I didn't find out because the machine kept rebooting and I was looking for other issues. All I had on it was an E8400 and an 8800GTX. So it only had around 400w of load on it if that.

No plans in using it anyways. It was enough having to replace 6 caps on that D845WN (bad Nichicon HMs aside, the 2 other caps I replaced were 85*C VRs) to learn my lesson and not use that 500W PSU.

By the way, any use for a SDR P4 board? I seriously don't know what can I do with it.

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Reply 20977 of 52879, by sf78

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Yet more stuff from the hoarders stash.

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Reply 20978 of 52879, by amadeus777999

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Skyscraper wrote:

I just bought two of these D34088-001

I found out that lumps of copper aren't very cheap unfortunately. These two coolers did cost me £50 shipped and I still don't have any proper backplates so I will have to improvise a bit. When it comes to buying stuff for "odd socket" builds buying motherboard + CPU bundles with coolers and mounting kits already included makes morse sense for sure.

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Very nice looking!

Reply 20979 of 52879, by Srandista

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Skyscraper wrote:

When it comes to buying stuff for "odd socket" builds buying motherboard + CPU bundles with coolers and mounting kits already included makes morse sense for sure.

Yeah, this is the reason, why I went for LGA775 recently. I know it's not very retro, but at least cooling solutions are so much more easier to obtain.

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