I really want a 100 MHz capable POD83 Pentium Overdrive.

Directly from the jaws of the scrapper! Could this be called cheating?

These CPUs were not super cheap but at least decently priced as the seller has checked that all pins are there on every single CPU. Other than that they are untested and have some slightly bent pins which dosnt matter to me.

The DX4 CPUs are the WB cache kind and the CPUs in the box are all P200 non MMX and P233MMX, I could not let these be scrapped for gold. The total price for all CPUs ended up ~400 euro so I will have to take it easy with other purchases for a couple of months as I normally do not like to spend more than 200 euro a month on hobbies.

Skyscraper wrote:

I really want a 100 MHz capable POD83 Pentium Overdrive.

I'm trying to start my PODP83 run on 100mhz too, but without luck.
Did you try to change cpu power voltage?

easy_john wrote:

Skyscraper wrote:

I really want a 100 MHz capable POD83 Pentium Overdrive.

I'm trying to start my PODP83 run on 100mhz too, but without luck.
Did you try to change cpu power voltage?

No I only had one which came with my Digital Venturis 466.

If at all possible I want a POD able to run at 100 MHz in the Digital system without any mods, the one I had wont boot Windows 9x at 100 MHz even if it can run some DOS benchmarks.

With this many PODs I hope the chanses for finding a winner is at least decent, otherwise I have at least saved the PODs from beeing scrapped.

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I really want a 100 MHz capable POD83 Pentium Overdrive.

Directly from the jaws of the scrapper! Could this be called cheating?

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These CPUs were not super cheap but at least decently priced as the seller has checked that all pins are there on every single CPU. Other than that they are untested and have some slightly bent pins which dosnt matter to me.

The DX4 CPUs are the WB cache kind and the CPUs in the box are all P200 non MMX and P233MMX, I could not let these be scrapped for gold. The total price for all CPUs ended up ~400 euro so I will have to take it easy with other purchases for a couple of months as I normally do not like to spend more than 200 euro a month on hobbies.

No, I wouldn't call this cheating, I'd call it "brute force", well done and nice haul! 😁

Could you please tell me how many of your Pentiums (the s7 ones) are of the 200 non-MMX variety? The 233MMX chips always seemed to be way more common than the 200 non-MMX ones, or at least the 200 non-MMX chips seemed significantly more difficult to find. In storage I got a total of 24 233MMX chips, but only 3 of the 200 non-MMX parts (many of the MMX ones were 1 or 2 big lots though, I probably could never find a big lot of 200 non-MMX chips for an attractive price). The lack of 200 non-MMX chips wasn't a big deal for me though, as I found the 200MHz Overdrives more interesting.

And 13 PODs, wow! Nice!

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The 4 without a fan, are those missing or did you just remove them for display purposes? 😀

edit2:
I counted 57 Pentium s7 chips.
There are 2 things I've been wondering for years, your pic reminded me of them again.
1) Some PPGA Pentiums seem to have a lighter color of their pins than others, which seem to have a darker more deep yellowy look
2) 1 of your PODs has a different marking on it's fan, "POPD" instead of "POPD5V", I also have 1 POD with the shorter part number on it's fan and I've always wondered what the deal was with that? I never figured it out and as the chips themselves seem to be the same anyway, I thought it was just the CPU fan and the POPD might just be some early model name that got changed quite soon. But I don't know for sure.

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I really want a 100 MHz capable POD83 Pentium Overdrive. […]
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I really want a 100 MHz capable POD83 Pentium Overdrive.

Directly from the jaws of the scrapper! Could this be called cheating?

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These CPUs were not super cheap but at least decently priced as the seller has checked that all pins are there on every single CPU. Other than that they are untested and have some slightly bent pins which dosnt matter to me.

The DX4 CPUs are the WB cache kind and the CPUs in the box are all P200 non MMX and P233MMX, I could not let these be scrapped for gold. The total price for all CPUs ended up ~400 euro so I will have to take it easy with other purchases for a couple of months as I normally do not like to spend more than 200 euro a month on hobbies.

No, I wouldn't call this cheating, I'd call it "brute force", well done and nice haul! 😁

Could you please tell me how many of your Pentiums (the s7 ones) are of the 200 non-MMX variety? The 233MMX chips always seemed to be way more common than the 200 non-MMX ones, or at least the 200 non-MMX chips seemed significantly more difficult to find. In storage I got a total of 24 233MMX chips, but only 3 of the 200 non-MMX parts (many of the MMX ones were 1 or 2 big lots though, I probably could never find a big lot of 200 non-MMX chips for an attractive price). The lack of 200 non-MMX chips wasn't a big deal for me though, as I found the 200MHz Overdrives more interesting.

And 13 PODs, wow! Nice!

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The 4 without a fan, are those missing or did you just remove them for display purposes? 😀

Thanks 😀

I think there are 30x P233MMX and 27x P200 non MMX! Perhaps the colour of the pins has to do with MMX and non MMX?

When it comes to the PODs the ones without a fan came without a fan, not really an issue as the fans are easy to move from one CPU to another. Later I will probably build a better cooling solution and just connect the fans RPM signal to the CPU so it dosnt get stuck at the 1x multiplier. All PODs seem to be "SU014" v2.1 but one has one less VRM component but this is not the one with the shorter name, perhaps the fans have been moved around.

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No, I wouldn't call this cheating, I'd call it "brute force", well done and nice haul! :D […]
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Skyscraper wrote:

I really want a 100 MHz capable POD83 Pentium Overdrive. […]
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I really want a 100 MHz capable POD83 Pentium Overdrive.

Directly from the jaws of the scrapper! Could this be called cheating?

Totally_cheating.JPG

These CPUs were not super cheap but at least decently priced as the seller has checked that all pins are there on every single CPU. Other than that they are untested and have some slightly bent pins which dosnt matter to me.

The DX4 CPUs are the WB cache kind and the CPUs in the box are all P200 non MMX and P233MMX, I could not let these be scrapped for gold. The total price for all CPUs ended up ~400 euro so I will have to take it easy with other purchases for a couple of months as I normally do not like to spend more than 200 euro a month on hobbies.

No, I wouldn't call this cheating, I'd call it "brute force", well done and nice haul! 😁

Could you please tell me how many of your Pentiums (the s7 ones) are of the 200 non-MMX variety? The 233MMX chips always seemed to be way more common than the 200 non-MMX ones, or at least the 200 non-MMX chips seemed significantly more difficult to find. In storage I got a total of 24 233MMX chips, but only 3 of the 200 non-MMX parts (many of the MMX ones were 1 or 2 big lots though, I probably could never find a big lot of 200 non-MMX chips for an attractive price). The lack of 200 non-MMX chips wasn't a big deal for me though, as I found the 200MHz Overdrives more interesting.

And 13 PODs, wow! Nice!

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The 4 without a fan, are those missing or did you just remove them for display purposes? 😀

Thanks 😀

I think there are 30x P233MMX and 27x P200 non MMX! Perhaps the colour of the pins has to do with MMX and non MMX?

When it comes to the PODs the ones without a fan came without a fan, not really an issue as the fans are easy to move from one CPU to another. Later I will probably build a better cooling solution and just connect the fans RPM signal to the CPU so it dosnt get stuck at the 1x multiplier. All PODs seem to be "SU014" but one has one less VRM component but this is not the one with the shorter name, perhaps the fans have been moved around.

I'm gonna go check out my PODs right now as I seem to actually recall one of those chips having the same "missing VRM component" and afaict my chips don't have their fans moved around, I mostly bought them 1 by 1 as they became available. Still no guarantee of course, but it doesn't hurt to check anyway.

Will edit this reply as I don't want to fill up this thread with too many questions, brb 😜

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It's confirmed, I have 6 POD83s and 1 of them has the short name on the CPU fan while the other 5 have the longer name on the CPU fan.
All 6 were SU014s though, V2.1

I also had a look at the POD MMX 200's and their CPU fans and fan assemblies looked mechanically identical to the one on the s3 PODs. Exact same size, even the exact same amperage (0.14A). The s3 PODs have the same dimensions as the s5/s7 Pentiums, but I can confirm they appear to be interchangeable with eachother (one could possibly simply replace a dead POD83 CPU fan with the fan of a PODMT66X200, provided they use the same wiring).

The single different POD83 also has 1 missing VRM thingy, the one in the corner opposite to where the CPU fan draws power from the CPU itself (the 3 gold colored dots).

I took blurry pics with my mobile, will add them in later in a separate reply as I have more to tell 😀

edit2: One more thing I noticed is that the 200MMX Overdrives are SL2RM V2.1, perhaps V2.1 refers to the type of CPU fan assembly?

Tetrium wrote:

One more thing I noticed is that the 200MMX Overdrives are SL2RM V2.1, perhaps V2.1 refers to the type of CPU fan assembly?

Its written v2.1 on the CPUs aswell not only the fans, this dosnt prove anything though as it could be a guideline to what fan you should use.

I have tried the first new POD now, it works fine at stock speed but wont boot Windows 9x at 100 MHz.

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Number 2 and 3 did not want to boot Windows 9x at 100 MHz either but number 4 did, I have no idea yet if it's stable.

Ah, you're the one who snapped all the 200's before I could get some 😁

sunaiac wrote:

Ah, you're the one who snapped all the 200's before I could get some 😁

Sorry!

Sooner or later many of them will probably return to the market. When it comes to CPUs destined for gold recovery I often get carried away and want to save them all! 😁

Skyscraper wrote:

sunaiac wrote:

Ah, you're the one who snapped all the 200's before I could get some 😁

Sorry!

Sooner or later many of them will probably return to the market. When it comes to CPUs destined for gold recovery I often get carried away and want to save them all! 😁

Yeah I know the feeling.
Got half of his DX50s already, will buy the next half next month surely if still there 😁

A small update here, I was looking for those missing 386 motherboards I bought a couple years ago. I went through another few stacks of motherboard boxes and finally found them, they apparently were send to me inside a single larger box and I think I might have asked this myself as sending the original motherboard boxes would have increased shipping costs. Kinda a shame, but I do still have the manuals (2 of them, I think I did get 3 (1 for each board) but I misplaced one of them).

The boards are brand new, the package was only opened by me a couple years ago so I could snip off the barrel batteries which already had started to leak.

The manual is labeled "CONTAQ-386 UPGRADABLE SYSTEM BOARD USER'S MANUAL" and the boards appear to be 386 ISA boards with both HIF sockets for 386 and weitek/387 and according to the manual, with some kind of special daughter board I can upgrade to a 486, but I don't have any of those.
It can run 40MHz and has cache sockets for (according to the manual) up to 256KB cache. Can't figure out what CPU speeds are available, but it has 4 settings which depend on the OSC speed, but I forgot to write that number down and I left the boards up stairs.

Strangely the first page of the manual staes a model number "MS-3124 Version 2.0", which reminds me more of the way MSI labels their boards (especially the MS-3???, MS stands for MSI I think and the first number always seems to always somewhat relate to the CPU architecture of the board).

On the board itself I read the chipset was a Contaq...something, but the manual lists the parts 82C206, 82C591 and 82C592 as the chipset. Will have to google those. The manual is very detailed, has pinouts and all that.

Now I know why I bought them, these boards seem pretty much awesome! Only thing missing is VLB and 72p memory sockets.

The manual is like it is brand new, I'll put "scanning 386 manual" somewhere at the top of my to-do list and upload it to Vogonsdrivers once uploading is made available again.

small edit: Apparently several other members here on Vogons got the same boards from the same seller, I'm reading up right now

Skyscraper wrote:

Tetrium wrote:

One more thing I noticed is that the 200MMX Overdrives are SL2RM V2.1, perhaps V2.1 refers to the type of CPU fan assembly?

Its written v2.1 on the CPUs aswell not only the fans, this dosnt prove anything though as it could be a guideline to what fan you should use.

I have tried the first new POD now, it works fine at stock speed but wont boot Windows 9x at 100 MHz.

I didn't even notice V2.1 was written on the fans, the "SL2RM V2.1" I noticed is visible on the CPU itself (all of the ones I removed the CPU fan from) after the CPU fan has been removed.
I agree, it doesn't prove anything. I'd be interested to know if other (Pentium) Overdrives have different 'numbers' here, like the DX4-100 Overdrives (which come with similar looking heatsinks, but are physically smaller) and the Pentium 2 Overdrives (which obviously are a lot larger as those are for s8).

Here are the pics I took. I know they're blurry but I don't have a working camera for now (I should really go see if I can get one cheaply).

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Even ZIP 250's were not that common, never seen a 750 out in the wild (CDR killed that whole market).

Do you remember floptical drives? They were like a hybrid floppy/hard drive. They used media that looked like a normal 5.25 or 3.5 inch floppy but with 10-20x the density.

sliderider wrote:

Unknown_K wrote:

Even ZIP 250's were not that common, never seen a 750 out in the wild (CDR killed that whole market).

Do you remember floptical drives? They were like a hybrid floppy/hard drive. They used media that looked like a normal 5.25 or 3.5 inch floppy but with 10-20x the density.

Yea I have a couple (one 3.5" internal drive, and one 3.5" external cardbus for laptops). I think I ruined the internal one trying to use a disk head cleaner on it but the external works ok (have not sued it in years).

I tend to collect older tape drives and removable media drives. Music Mini disks were also made into removable storage drives for computers.

Something little more special today - AIW Radeon 8500 DV full retail 😀

The PCB design is rather complicated, it consists of TV tuner, VIVO processor and firewire controller. Most of the components are on the front side....

... except for the DDR SDRAM, which is located on the back.

8500 DV is much slower compared to the reference R8500 (275/275 MHz). Still it is a nice piece of HW. 😀

The original box is almost 15 years old, but still in perfect shape.

Package includes plenty of documents.

Two CDs and case stickers sheet.

Another part of the accesory is remote control and USB reciever. And also the video input/output splitter cable, which I forgot to include on the photos.

Hercules catalog 2001-2002

Very nice catch,rarely saw aiw irl,but always liked stuff that you can play with using remote control.

Not remotely retro, but it will put a big dent in any retro system plans I have; just put an i5 6600k and all the trimmings (whilst retaining my existing GTX670, HDDs/SSD/optical drives) in my main system.

Nice find there havli, sounds like a pretty decent piece of kit!

There is a faster version of this card that is as fast as a normal 8500. I think there are two or even three versions of this AIW card.

The faster AIW 8500 however lacks the firewire port.

Received an ISA Card that is in fact a nice little FM Radio, made by Aztech.
Installation took 5 seconds, and it's working perfectly in my retro PC at the moment.

Cool! Got any board shots?