happycube wrote:

brassicGamer wrote:

Never seen one of these before - didn't know the first P4s look just like Tualatins!

The P4/1.4's also ran like Tualatin's... at about 1ghz. And a lot more wattage. A harbinger of Prescott I suppose 😉

I might actually benchmark this machine against my 1Ghz SMP PIII , just to see how they compete in both single and dual CPU mode .

Though I do have to wonder, if one was to run somewhat newer software on them (say , a game from 2003 or so) whether the P4 would outperform the PIII by a bigger margin , simply because software might have had more P4 optimization at that point.

might also replace the CPU in this machine with something like a 1.7ghz or the 2ghz if I can find it, which should give it a bit of a kick.

I got one of those at 1.7Ghz paired with a Geforce 3 TI500 (it's the one in my sig) If i remember correctly i was able to score something between 7000 and 7500. Not sure if this is a good indicator for anything when compared with tualatins, but it isn't a bad score i believe.

386_junkie wrote:

Nice cards and good to see. […]
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carlostex wrote:

keropi wrote:

Great purchases Carlos!
It's good to see some 8bit ISA goodness after all that retro-modern stuff 🤣 🤣 🤣

Retro-modern stuff isn't really my thing... 🤣

Nice cards and good to see.

Yeah... I'd say the only reason I am on Vogons is for the late 80's / early 90's era components.

I've been actively posting 8-bit EGA cards etc recently on the eBay thread to try bring balance to the force! 🤣

Keep'em coming.

I'm more interested in 1990 to 2004 stuff since that's what I used back in the day, so keep those comin' as well.

rick6 wrote:

I got one of those at 1.7Ghz paired with a Geforce 3 TI500 (it's the one in my sig) If i remember correctly i was able to score something between 7000 and 7500. Not sure if this is a good indicator for anything when compared with tualatins, but it isn't a bad score i believe.

Meant 3DMark 2001 😉

For free:

- some hard drive caddies
- some useful cables
- an LS120 drive
- an AT PSU with a non standard switching connector (well, standard, but not the standard one would expect)
- a front interface unit for my orphaned Audigy ZS (sadly second generation so useless mini-DIN instead of desired DIN)

Superdrive confused me because I've never seen one before. It looks skat identical to a floppy drive, but uses an ATAPI interface.

Edit: forgot - also a floppy disk with black front panel.

Those mini-DIN's are the same pinout as the ones Roland used on the SCC-1 and work with its cables. I know this because I've been running it that way for over a decade, and whilst that doesn't directly help you (As I doubt you have or can find SCC-1 leads) it means I can bell out the pinouts in case you ever want to make cables. I suspect they are probably just a Pin-1-to-1 layout though.

Actually, the connectors looks suspiciously similar to PS/2 connectors. Makes me wonder if I broke the tags and the spare pin off of a PS/2 lead, would it fit? Might have to try, as that would allow the insertion of a DIN-PS2 adapter with minimal modification. Of course, one would have to be careful of orientation so as to not bend the pins.

HighTreason wrote:

I can bell out the pinouts in case you ever want to make cables. I suspect they are probably just a Pin-1-to-1 layout though.

Why thank you, kind sir. It's most likely I will be using one of my MIDI keyboards with it (I don't own a USB one) at some point.

HighTreason wrote:

Actually, the connectors looks suspiciously similar to PS/2 connectors. Makes me wonder if I broke the tags and the spare pin off of a PS/2 lead, would it fit? Might have to try, as that would allow the insertion of a DIN-PS2 adapter with minimal modification. Of course, one would have to be careful of orientation so as to not bend the pins.

I had the same thought so there is definitely a cheap / fun / frustrating solution in the offing.

As someone who used the SBA2ZS in the day, they originally came with midi adaptors previously mentioned.

rick6 wrote:

I got one of those at 1.7Ghz paired with a Geforce 3 TI500 (it's the one in my sig) If i remember correctly i was able to score something between 7000 and 7500. Not sure if this is a good indicator for anything when compared with tualatins, but it isn't a bad score i believe.

if I remember correctly, the 1.7Ghz was probably the first P4 that was seen as worth getting , its important to remember that at the time, most people didnt use a Tualatin , which was intended as a server/workstation chip for the most part. a 1Ghz PIII/Athlon was about as far as most people got before upgrading to a P4/AthlonXP.

That said, running 3DMark01 with the GF2Ti got me a result of 4054 , if IGN is to be believed according to this review (http://uk.ign.com/articles/2001/11/28/hercule … et-ii-ti-review) , running a 1.13Ghz Athlon with the same card gets a result 3667. so its a mixed bag

Scored an AGP x1950 Pro for a mere $35, shipped! I had one a few years ago and made the mistake of selling it. But at least I got a lot more than $35 for it. 😊

Looking back at some of my old benchmark results, the AGP X1950 Pro can be over twice as fast as the 6800GT when the CPU doesn't get in the way.
For example, in 3DMark06 on an Athlon 64 3700+ overclocked to 2.8GHz:

6800GT AGP
SM2.0: score: 1018
HDR/SM3.0 score: 933

x1950 Pro AGP
SM2.0 score: 2008
HDR/SM3.0 score: 2230

Someone sold 4650 agp for mare 7€. This was locally and I was too late...

luckybob wrote:

As someone who used the SBA2ZS in the day, they originally came with midi adaptors previously mentioned.

Ah. Well it came with no cables. As it is I'm using an IDE cable to hook up the breakout box.

Not a purchase.... Got this back from my brother. The exact same drive I was using in 2000 to 2003/04 for burning.
Going in my Zitech-Recreation machine in a near future. So glad to have it back again. 😀

Just realized what I thought to be a 2gb kit of fancy DDR 400 I own is actually this: http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/ocz-el-ddr-pc- … ory-kit-review/ holy cow.

ODwilly wrote:

Just realized what I thought to be a 2gb kit of fancy DDR 400 I own is actually this: http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/ocz-el-ddr-pc- … ory-kit-review/ holy cow.

You reminded me about this kit and didn't realize that supplies have pretty much dried up, I only remember this kit because it was the best that you can get that will work in the powermac G5.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?It … N82E16820227210

DDR 400 (PC 3200)
Timing 2-3-2-5
Cas Latency 2

There might be some more exotic kits but they are Rare.

^That is some nice DDR 400.

A full length 16 bit ISA prototype board (got a bunch of NOS 74LS chips too), slot metal bracket is behind it. looks like its cut for something big. maybe parallel port or larger. old scsi? not sure.

A used prototype board, its got some standard 25LS + 74LS chips, a NEC D8255AC-2 and a ceramic AM9513DC

3x 8 slot ISA backplanes, the one at the bottom of the picture is the nicest of the 3.

BloodyCactus wrote:

A full length 16 bit ISA prototype board (got a bunch of NOS 74LS chips too), slot metal bracket is behind it. looks like its cut for something big. maybe parallel port or larger. old scsi? not sure.

Those are awesome... I could have me some serious fun with them, and I did not even know such things existed!

They remind me of being back in college with those old bread-boards pluggin' in 555's timers and all sorts.

What are your plans for them?

Yeah, awesome!

I wonder what the used one was for. Can you take a pic of the back? If it was working, there has to be a rats nest of cables back there. Judging from the lack of resistors, caps and jumpers on the front though, someone started to populate but never finished it.

386_junkie wrote:

Those are awesome... I could have me some serious fun with them, and I did not even know such things existed!

They remind me of being back in college with those old bread-boards pluggin' in 555's timers and all sorts.

What are your plans for them?

yeah I only got the bundle to get the full length ISA prototype board since it was peanuts. I have a few plans in the works that I'd like to get to. from simple to more complex. First up I'm going to get a 5v PIC and add a cool VFD to the front of the box that I can sit on an IO port and read/write data to it to send messages to the PIC to the VFD and other things. Maybe see what other peripherals inside the PIC I can utilise. Few other things I need to think about and figure out before I post on them.

oerk wrote:

I wonder what the used one was for. Can you take a pic of the back? If it was working, there has to be a rats nest of cables back there. Judging from the lack of resistors, caps and jumpers on the front though, someone started to populate but never finished it.

yeah its got a rats nest on the back, not wirewrap but some very very thin/tiny gauge wire.

my guess, it's for an original XT or so machine. Got the extended ISA connector cut off so it's 8bit, it's got an XT class timing chip (the am531, and a standard PPI. The blue thing is a floppy or IDE male pin connector. The am9513 is more suited to z80 or 8085 or something tho than 8086, so not sure its original purpose.