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Reply 16881 of 52813, by tabm0de

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stoof wrote:
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Got it home today and it works great 😀

But damn it was slower the expected haha

Is that why you're selling it? 😉

Haha he, I need my self a 286 since that's where I stared 😉

naa, nothing yet...

Reply 16882 of 52813, by Carlos S. M.

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PcBytes wrote:

Seems I wasn't so lucky today.

I tried hard to search for a better GPU than my old FX5200 64MB (that ABiT Siluro I was talking about having 64MB RAM) and I somehow ended with something worse than that - a Radeon 9600SE 128MB V/D/VO. Not only it's 64-bit - I can't even BIOS mod it (9600s and 9550s were supposedly able to be BIOS-modded into 9700s or 9800s - something around that) and to top that, it can't display a color image over my home-made S-Video cable. ( out of PS/2 keyboard cable - methinks one of the main signals - either Luma or Chroma - is on the unused pins that I snapped off - in which case I'll try and find a way to build another one from a old HP cable - it has more wires which may mean it is fully wired for each PS/2 signal, which in turn might provide me a full colour image regardless of what GPU I use).

And the $64 question is: is the 128MB 9600SE in any way better than the 64MB FX5200, performance wise?

None of the Radeon 9550s and 9600s can be modded to 9700, only the Radeon 9500/9500 PRO depending of the card

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Reply 16885 of 52813, by nforce4max

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Carlos S. M. wrote:
PcBytes wrote:

Seems I wasn't so lucky today.

I tried hard to search for a better GPU than my old FX5200 64MB (that ABiT Siluro I was talking about having 64MB RAM) and I somehow ended with something worse than that - a Radeon 9600SE 128MB V/D/VO. Not only it's 64-bit - I can't even BIOS mod it (9600s and 9550s were supposedly able to be BIOS-modded into 9700s or 9800s - something around that) and to top that, it can't display a color image over my home-made S-Video cable. ( out of PS/2 keyboard cable - methinks one of the main signals - either Luma or Chroma - is on the unused pins that I snapped off - in which case I'll try and find a way to build another one from a old HP cable - it has more wires which may mean it is fully wired for each PS/2 signal, which in turn might provide me a full colour image regardless of what GPU I use).

And the $64 question is: is the 128MB 9600SE in any way better than the 64MB FX5200, performance wise?

None of the Radeon 9550s and 9600s can be modded to 9700, only the Radeon 9500/9500 PRO depending of the card

I am so glad to have two 9800 XT, paid $23 for one and $8 for the other. There is still a couple of 9700s and 9800s on eBay in the states but they are mostly in bulk lots and probably will be destroyed in shipping.

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Reply 16886 of 52813, by dexvx

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Carlos S. M. wrote:
PcBytes wrote:

Seems I wasn't so lucky today.

I tried hard to search for a better GPU than my old FX5200 64MB (that ABiT Siluro I was talking about having 64MB RAM) and I somehow ended with something worse than that - a Radeon 9600SE 128MB V/D/VO. Not only it's 64-bit - I can't even BIOS mod it (9600s and 9550s were supposedly able to be BIOS-modded into 9700s or 9800s - something around that) and to top that, it can't display a color image over my home-made S-Video cable. ( out of PS/2 keyboard cable - methinks one of the main signals - either Luma or Chroma - is on the unused pins that I snapped off - in which case I'll try and find a way to build another one from a old HP cable - it has more wires which may mean it is fully wired for each PS/2 signal, which in turn might provide me a full colour image regardless of what GPU I use).

And the $64 question is: is the 128MB 9600SE in any way better than the 64MB FX5200, performance wise?

None of the Radeon 9550s and 9600s can be modded to 9700, only the Radeon 9500/9500 PRO depending of the card

Only the original Radeon 9500 non-Pro used the same layout as the original Radeon 9700/Pro. It's obviously because of the "L" shaped memory configuration.

Anyways, speaking of obscure. I have a Kyro II 64MB (I think it's made by STMicro) and a SiS Xabre 200. The Kyro works well, but crashes a lot on newer titles. The Xabre fan is rattling, haven't tried it yet (although it can POST on an Abit BE6).

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Reply 16887 of 52813, by TheAbandonwareGuy

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nforce4max wrote:
Carlos S. M. wrote:
PcBytes wrote:

Seems I wasn't so lucky today.

I tried hard to search for a better GPU than my old FX5200 64MB (that ABiT Siluro I was talking about having 64MB RAM) and I somehow ended with something worse than that - a Radeon 9600SE 128MB V/D/VO. Not only it's 64-bit - I can't even BIOS mod it (9600s and 9550s were supposedly able to be BIOS-modded into 9700s or 9800s - something around that) and to top that, it can't display a color image over my home-made S-Video cable. ( out of PS/2 keyboard cable - methinks one of the main signals - either Luma or Chroma - is on the unused pins that I snapped off - in which case I'll try and find a way to build another one from a old HP cable - it has more wires which may mean it is fully wired for each PS/2 signal, which in turn might provide me a full colour image regardless of what GPU I use).

And the $64 question is: is the 128MB 9600SE in any way better than the 64MB FX5200, performance wise?

None of the Radeon 9550s and 9600s can be modded to 9700, only the Radeon 9500/9500 PRO depending of the card

I am so glad to have two 9800 XT, paid $23 for one and $8 for the other. There is still a couple of 9700s and 9800s on eBay in the states but they are mostly in bulk lots and probably will be destroyed in shipping.

You should post those lots over at the eBay listings thread. I (and I'm sure atleast a few others) would like to look at those listings.

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Reply 16888 of 52813, by nforce4max

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Will take some flak but I stopped posting because I don't like the prices spiking when I want to or need to get something. I will say there is still a horde of goodies like the Geforce 3 and socket 7 boards at decent prices ect. The last thing I want is for something to end up with almost every listing to cost $200+ at the drop of a hat like what is happening with the 7800 GS or the Geforce 256. The lone S3 Savage 2000 that was listed for like $150 sold recently.

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Reply 16889 of 52813, by ODwilly

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Will take some flak but I stopped posting because I don't like the prices spiking when I want to or need to get something. I will say there is still a horde of goodies like the Geforce 3 and socket 7 boards at decent prices ect. The last thing I want is for something to end up with almost every listing to cost $200+ at the drop of a hat like what is happening with the 7800 GS or the Geforce 256. The lone S3 Savage 2000 that was listed for like $150 sold recently.

You are making me want to post my boxed S200 on ebay now. . .

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Reply 16890 of 52813, by brassicGamer

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WHY DON'T PEOPLE UNDERSTAND A SIMPLE THING LIKE PROPER PACKAGING?!?!?!

After literally years of patience I finally picked up a reasonably-priced CT6670 to pair with my existing model in SLI. It was 20 bucks plus reasonable delivery, listed as 'used, tested, in working order - may have cosmetic scratches. It was in one of those pink bubble wrap bags and a buttload of bubble wrap around it. Despite this, it arrived in this condition:

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Obviously easily remedied but not a good sign. Next thing I noticed:

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If it is working it's purely by luck - I'll have to try and reposition that pin extremely carefully to avoid it shorting. It seems from the seller's pic that this was an existing issue:

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If I had a pound for every time a card turned up with missing SMD components I'd be a rich man. Well, I've not tested it yet and they say it's working, and there's no RAM installed in the above locations so maybe it'll be okay. I'll update once I've made my SLI cable from a floppy lead.

EDIT: just noticed the bent pin and the adjoining one doesn't actually go anywhere unless it's to a trace under the chip.

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Reply 16891 of 52813, by Skalabala

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Reply 16893 of 52813, by Kreshna Aryaguna Nurzaman

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sketchus wrote:

Any board that has two ISA slots is cool in my book 😀

Many 440BX boards have three, like ASUS P2B.

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Reply 16894 of 52813, by buckeye

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Finally snagged one of these Vortex 2 cards without having to "sell the farm". Prices keep going up like all the voodoo stuff.

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Reply 16895 of 52813, by dexvx

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nforce4max wrote:

Will take some flak but I stopped posting because I don't like the prices spiking when I want to or need to get something. I will say there is still a horde of goodies like the Geforce 3 and socket 7 boards at decent prices ect. The last thing I want is for something to end up with almost every listing to cost $200+ at the drop of a hat like what is happening with the 7800 GS or the Geforce 256. The lone S3 Savage 2000 that was listed for like $150 sold recently.

Maybe because that was a BNIB Diamond Viper II Z200? I picked up a working Diamond Viper II Z200 last month for like $20 shipped.

Reply 16896 of 52813, by meljor

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Skalabala wrote:
Gigabyte GA5AX rev 5.2 :D With 500mhz K6 2 […]
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Gigabyte GA5AX rev 5.2 😁 With 500mhz K6 2

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Yes! Finally some new overclocking scores coming 🤣 That should be the absolute best board for k6-3+ maximum overclock!

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Reply 16897 of 52813, by kithylin

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brassicGamer wrote:

WHY DON'T PEOPLE UNDERSTAND A SIMPLE THING LIKE PROPER PACKAGING?!?!?!

After literally years of patience I finally picked up a reasonably-priced CT6670 to pair with my existing model in SLI. It was 20 bucks plus reasonable delivery, listed as 'used, tested, in working order - may have cosmetic scratches. It was in one of those pink bubble wrap bags and a buttload of bubble wrap around it. Despite this, it arrived in this condition:

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Not to self-promote or anything but typically if I'm selling a small video card I'll wrap the whole card in a static bag and usually take the time and effort to undo the VGA screw mounts, remove the bracket, put the screws half-in on the VGA connector and tape the bracket to the top of the card's static bag on the outside. It only takes a few minutes and it's super easy for the buyer to replace afterwards.

People that don't do things like this are.. I don't know what to say. I guess most folks just think "Old video card." and chunk it in a box with minimal protection (if any at all) and just send it off. The past few GeForce 7800 era quadro cards I've bought have literally been this issue. Bought 4 different ones from 4 different sellers now and all of em either don't work, or arrived bent up to hell and have no packaging protection at all or minimal. I don't understand why people can't just take a few minutes out of their busy day and package something correctly. 😒 😠 😢 😵

Reply 16898 of 52813, by orinoko

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@brassicGamer I have a card like that which I needed to fix a pin that was bent and shorting onto an adjacent pin. The way I did it was with a thin blade, like a Stanley knife and just gently kissed the blade onto the side of the pin where there was a gap and carefully nudged it out to where it should be positioned. Worked perfectly for me 😀

As for those filter caps, yeah it's likely the card would still work without them. Especially since those RAM ICs aren't populated.

Question is, were any other SMD knocked off?

Reply 16899 of 52813, by TheAbandonwareGuy

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orinoko wrote:

@brassicGamer I have a card like that which I needed to fix a pin that was bent and shorting onto an adjacent pin. The way I did it was with a thin blade, like a Stanley knife and just gently kissed the blade onto the side of the pin where there was a gap and carefully nudged it out to where it should be positioned. Worked perfectly for me 😀

As for those filter caps, yeah it's likely the card would still work without them. Especially since those RAM ICs aren't populated.

Question is, were any other SMD knocked off?

Atleast the SMDs are nothing that can't be fixed with a solder gun. I imagine it might take some skill with one though. With my poor eyesight I'd probably go crosseyed attempting it.

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