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Bought these (retro) hardware today

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Reply 5981 of 53065, by Indrid Cold

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Today I was given by a shopkeeper friend of mine this HUGE CRT monitor, a ViewPoint vp1995oat: https://imageshack.com/i/f0dAiH3Cj

Damn if it is huge, probably the most cumbersome CRT I have ever seen in person. The screen is curved, the date of manufacture is 1999, and my friend told me that at the time It was very expensive... so I hope for the good quality. This video after testing session will become the definitive solution for my Win9x / MS-DOS build.

Reply 5982 of 53065, by King_Corduroy

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Nice, yeah there is nothing quite like a giant CRT. It really is a wonderful thing. 😁

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Reply 5983 of 53065, by havli

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I have something special today 😀

Ricoh RO-5030E - magneto-optical drive + 560 MB rewritable disc.
This thing is quite old, manufactured in 1989. Interface is a standard 50pin SCSI, working fine in Windows 98 and XP, using Adaptec 2940UW.
The disc itself is double-sided and contains two separate file systems - 280 MB FAT16 for each side. Not bad for 1989.

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Reply 5984 of 53065, by Skyscraper

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havli wrote:
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I have something special today 😀

Ricoh RO-5030E - magneto-optical drive + 560 MB rewritable disc.
This thing is quite old, manufactured in 1989. Interface is a standard 50pin SCSI, working fine in Windows 98 and XP, using Adaptec 2940UW.
The disc itself is double-sided and contains two separate file systems - 280 MB FAT16 for each side. Not bad for 1989.

Sweet!

New PC: i9 12900K @5GHz all cores @1.2v. MSI PRO Z690-A. 32GB DDR4 3600 CL14. 3070Ti.
Old PC: Dual Xeon X5690@4.6GHz, EVGA SR-2, 48GB DDR3R@2000MHz, Intel X25-M. GTX 980ti.
Older PC: K6-3+ 400@600MHz, PC-Chips M577, 256MB SDRAM, AWE64, Voodoo Banshee.

Reply 5985 of 53065, by smeezekitty

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I have something special today :) […]
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I have something special today 😀

Ricoh RO-5030E - magneto-optical drive + 560 MB rewritable disc.
This thing is quite old, manufactured in 1989. Interface is a standard 50pin SCSI, working fine in Windows 98 and XP, using Adaptec 2940UW.
The disc itself is double-sided and contains two separate file systems - 280 MB FAT16 for each side. Not bad for 1989.

Two questions:
How fast is it?
and
What does it sound like?

Reply 5987 of 53065, by tayyare

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havli wrote:
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I have something special today 😀

Ricoh RO-5030E - magneto-optical drive + 560 MB rewritable disc.
This thing is quite old, manufactured in 1989. Interface is a standard 50pin SCSI, working fine in Windows 98 and XP, using Adaptec 2940UW.
The disc itself is double-sided and contains two separate file systems - 280 MB FAT16 for each side. Not bad for 1989.

Considering that my first HDD in 1992 was 40MB, it's a sure thing...😀

GA-6VTXE PIII 1.4+512MB
Geforce4 Ti 4200 64MB
Diamond Monster 3D 12MB SLI
SB AWE64 PNP+32MB
120GB IDE Samsung/80GB IDE Seagate/146GB SCSI Compaq/73GB SCSI IBM
Adaptec AHA29160
3com 3C905B-TX
Gotek+CF Reader
MSDOS 6.22+Win 3.11/95 OSR2.1/98SE/ME/2000

Reply 5988 of 53065, by havli

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Two questions: How fast is it? and What does it sound like? […]
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Two questions:
How fast is it?
and
What does it sound like?

Reading speed is 230 KB/s, write speed is impossible to measure, but most likely is slower.
Sound is really quiet and decent for size and age of this drive. It sounds like a HDD.

I have recorded a short video. Pardon the low quality and ambient noise. Dual Athlon XP (palomino) requires some cooling power.
Youtube refuses to upload this... no idea why, so here is a direct download link.
http://hw-museum.cz/data/RO-5030E.mkv

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Reply 5989 of 53065, by brostenen

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Just bought an Aopen audio PCI AW320 soundcard.
The reason why, is that it has an SB-Link header.
Going to check it out, whats all the fuzz is about.

Some here on Vogons just keep telling me that SB-Link,
is not for Isa bus emulation, for sound in games in xms mode.
Even though I have read everywhere that SB-Link is just that.

Tired of reading about stuff, now is the time to actually test
SB-Link out my self.

Don't eat stuff off a 15 year old never cleaned cpu cooler.
Those cakes make you sick....

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Reply 5990 of 53065, by smeezekitty

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Reading speed is 230 KB/s, write speed is impossible to measure, but most likely is slower.

A little slow but not bad for it's age. Why is the write speed impossible to measure?

Sound is really quiet and decent for size and age of this drive. It sounds like a HDD.

Sounds like an old hard drive. Pretty impressive for the year.

I have recorded a short video. Pardon the low quality and ambient noise. Dual Athlon XP (palomino) requires some cooling power.
Youtube refuses to upload this... no idea why, so here is a direct download link.
http://hw-museum.cz/data/RO-5030E.mkv

It is not worse quality than anything I have taken 😉

Reply 5991 of 53065, by havli

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It seems to be typical windows issue caused by write buffer or something. When I start the file copy, copy status bar jumps instantly to 50% with speed of 10 MB/s (wrong, of course ). Then the copy status is frozen until all data are transferred.

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Reply 5992 of 53065, by PhilsComputerLab

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brostenen wrote:

Tired of reading about stuff, now is the time to actually test
SB-Link out my self.

That's the spirit! Personally for DOS ISA is the only way.

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Reply 5993 of 53065, by meljor

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Finally found a backup for my p3b-f system. Another Nice Asus p3b-f rev. 1.04.
Great boards, took a while to find another.. came with 4x128mb and p3 550mhz.

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asus tusl2-c, p3-S 1,4ghz, voodoo5 5500, live!
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Reply 5994 of 53065, by brostenen

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philscomputerlab wrote:
brostenen wrote:

Tired of reading about stuff, now is the time to actually test
SB-Link out my self.

That's the spirit! Personally for DOS ISA is the only way.

True. Or at least in most cases. If I only played, lets say Doom (1 and 2).
And I could only get my hands on PCI soundcards.
Well... Then only the SB-Live can do for me.

Anyway...
My P3 board is crippeled (no ISA slots), yet it's got SB-Link header.
If only the Live had SB-Link header.

Don't eat stuff off a 15 year old never cleaned cpu cooler.
Those cakes make you sick....

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Reply 5995 of 53065, by RacoonRider

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Got V3 2000 for $1 from a local guy who listed it as "MX400", but I knew from the image it was a V3! Thanks to this thread, where all kinds of hardware show up 😀

. Also bought an FX5500 from MSI for cheap and got a pile of scrapped motherboards as a bonus. The only worthy one is ASUS TP4 (had 200MMX CPU and 2x8MB FPM sticks installed). Unfortunately, they all miss copper coils, is it repairable?

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Reply 5996 of 53065, by raymangold

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RacoonRider wrote:

. Also bought an FX5500 from MSI for cheap and got a pile of scrapped motherboards as a bonus. The only worthy one is ASUS TP4 (had 200MMX CPU and 2x8MB FPM sticks installed). Unfortunately, they all miss copper coils, is it repairable?

If you can solder in equivalent coils to the correct (or close enough) value-- these are most likely part of the voltage regulation filtering. Although the question is why they were removed from the first place-- could be indicative the board had an issue.

Reply 5997 of 53065, by RacoonRider

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raymangold wrote:
RacoonRider wrote:

. Also bought an FX5500 from MSI for cheap and got a pile of scrapped motherboards as a bonus. The only worthy one is ASUS TP4 (had 200MMX CPU and 2x8MB FPM sticks installed). Unfortunately, they all miss copper coils, is it repairable?

If you can solder in equivalent coils to the correct (or close enough) value-- these are most likely part of the voltage regulation filtering. Although the question is why they were removed from the first place-- could be indicative the board had an issue.

They were all removed by the previous owner the day before I came for V3 - he did not see how he could use them and decided to get what little money he could from them. The pile was about to be carried to the garbage, he just asked me if I wanted it out of laziness 😀

There is also a dismantled 450MHz Deschutes. It's strange how often I see that CPU. I'll probably make a keychain out of the core - I don't see any use in it with no cartridge.

Reply 5998 of 53065, by Skyscraper

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RacoonRider wrote:
raymangold wrote:
RacoonRider wrote:

. Also bought an FX5500 from MSI for cheap and got a pile of scrapped motherboards as a bonus. The only worthy one is ASUS TP4 (had 200MMX CPU and 2x8MB FPM sticks installed). Unfortunately, they all miss copper coils, is it repairable?

If you can solder in equivalent coils to the correct (or close enough) value-- these are most likely part of the voltage regulation filtering. Although the question is why they were removed from the first place-- could be indicative the board had an issue.

They were all removed by the previous owner the day before I came for V3 - he did not see how he could use them and decided to get what little money he could from them. The pile was about to be carried to the garbage, he just asked me if I wanted it out of laziness 😀

There is also a dismantled 450MHz Deschutes. It's strange how often I see that CPU. I'll probably make a keychain out of the core - I don't see any use in it with no cartridge.

You do not need the cartridge!

You can mount a Slot-1 cooler directly to the PCB. You need 4 screws, 4 nuts and 4 very small washers of some kind.
I removed the cartridge from my Katmai 600 because I diddnt like the stock cooler and I diddnt have a better one that would fit the SECC2 package.

New PC: i9 12900K @5GHz all cores @1.2v. MSI PRO Z690-A. 32GB DDR4 3600 CL14. 3070Ti.
Old PC: Dual Xeon X5690@4.6GHz, EVGA SR-2, 48GB DDR3R@2000MHz, Intel X25-M. GTX 980ti.
Older PC: K6-3+ 400@600MHz, PC-Chips M577, 256MB SDRAM, AWE64, Voodoo Banshee.

Reply 5999 of 53065, by kithylin

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Skyscraper wrote:

You do not need the cartridge!

You can mount a Slot-1 cooler directly to the PCB. You need 4 screws, 4 nuts and 4 very small washers of some kind.
I removed the cartridge from my Katmai 600 because I diddnt like the stock cooler and I diddnt have a better one that would fit the SECC2 package.

I've also seen old forum posts before where people mount water blocks to the bare chips without the plastic cartridge for overclocking athlon chips. Some people would actually go to great lengths to get that plastic stuff off of the chips.